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Will Honea

The idler pulley will also squeal at you the same way.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:55:10 UTC sobefun@hotmail.com (sobe) wrote:

> Eric, There is no glazing on the belt. In my initial stages of
> research on this problem, I installed a new belt. The sound was
> still there after the new belt was installed. It did change with the
> amount of tension that was put on it, but it never went away. In
> addition to changing the belt, I also adjusted the tension so that it
> would produce the shortest amount of squeal as possible.
> Infortunately, I cannot completely rid my car of the noise. :-(
>
>
> "Eric Shade" <augnero@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MW5Wc.209251$fv.1611@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
> > Is there glazing on the inside of your S-belt?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > "sobe" <sobefun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:85f2cd57.0408221027.65eac98f@posting.google.c om...
> > > HELP!!!!
> > >
> > > My 99 Jeep TJ has developed a squeal/screetch emanating from the
> > > passenger side of the motor upon startup AND sometimes when the A/C is
> > > running. I'll try to describe this as best as possible...
> > >
> > > Upon startup, when the car has been sitting for a while (At least 45
> > > minutes after last operated), the car will make a squeal when starting
> > > the car. After about 5-10 seconds, the sqeual goes away. IF I start
> > > the car under load, ie,. with the AC running, it will not stop
> > > squealing until the AC is switched off. I'm in Miami, so it is always
> > > warm. Cold weather does not happen here.
> > >
> > > Once the car has been running for a few minutes (and I am actually
> > > driving), I can turn on the AC and the sound will not be present. The
> > > car MUST be moving. Idling for 5 minutes won't prevent the squeal.
> > > This is part of my daily workaround.
> > >
> > > When driving, if I turn on the AC and the squeal is present, I simply
> > > turn it off, wait a few seconds, and then turn it back on.
> > > Eventually the AC will run and the sqeal will not be present.
> > >
> > > Once the AC is working without the squeal, all is good until the next
> > > time I let the car sit for a while without running it.
> > >
> > > This has been going on the for the past few months....
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's what I have replaced:
> > >
> > > Serpentine Belt
> > > Both non-accessory pulley's
> > > A/C compressor clutch
> > >
> > > Suggested possibilities: AC compressor bearing, alternator,
> > > waterpump.
> > >
> > > My next step is to replace one of the three above. When I have
> > > examined the motor while the noise is present, it seems to be coming
> > > from the AC compressor or the alternator. The AC works fine when it
> > > comes to cooling. I also do not have a power problem with the
> > > alternator.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can check next or maybe
> > > to determine whether this is one of the three suggested possibilities?
> > > The waterpump is cheap, but the other two are not. I'd rather nail
> > > this problem with the next weekend under the hood.
> > >
> > > Please help!!
> > >
> > > Also, please respond via the newsgroup so others can share in the
> > > knowlege transfer.


--
Will Honea

Will Honea

The idler pulley will also squeal at you the same way.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:55:10 UTC sobefun@hotmail.com (sobe) wrote:

> Eric, There is no glazing on the belt. In my initial stages of
> research on this problem, I installed a new belt. The sound was
> still there after the new belt was installed. It did change with the
> amount of tension that was put on it, but it never went away. In
> addition to changing the belt, I also adjusted the tension so that it
> would produce the shortest amount of squeal as possible.
> Infortunately, I cannot completely rid my car of the noise. :-(
>
>
> "Eric Shade" <augnero@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MW5Wc.209251$fv.1611@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
> > Is there glazing on the inside of your S-belt?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > "sobe" <sobefun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:85f2cd57.0408221027.65eac98f@posting.google.c om...
> > > HELP!!!!
> > >
> > > My 99 Jeep TJ has developed a squeal/screetch emanating from the
> > > passenger side of the motor upon startup AND sometimes when the A/C is
> > > running. I'll try to describe this as best as possible...
> > >
> > > Upon startup, when the car has been sitting for a while (At least 45
> > > minutes after last operated), the car will make a squeal when starting
> > > the car. After about 5-10 seconds, the sqeual goes away. IF I start
> > > the car under load, ie,. with the AC running, it will not stop
> > > squealing until the AC is switched off. I'm in Miami, so it is always
> > > warm. Cold weather does not happen here.
> > >
> > > Once the car has been running for a few minutes (and I am actually
> > > driving), I can turn on the AC and the sound will not be present. The
> > > car MUST be moving. Idling for 5 minutes won't prevent the squeal.
> > > This is part of my daily workaround.
> > >
> > > When driving, if I turn on the AC and the squeal is present, I simply
> > > turn it off, wait a few seconds, and then turn it back on.
> > > Eventually the AC will run and the sqeal will not be present.
> > >
> > > Once the AC is working without the squeal, all is good until the next
> > > time I let the car sit for a while without running it.
> > >
> > > This has been going on the for the past few months....
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's what I have replaced:
> > >
> > > Serpentine Belt
> > > Both non-accessory pulley's
> > > A/C compressor clutch
> > >
> > > Suggested possibilities: AC compressor bearing, alternator,
> > > waterpump.
> > >
> > > My next step is to replace one of the three above. When I have
> > > examined the motor while the noise is present, it seems to be coming
> > > from the AC compressor or the alternator. The AC works fine when it
> > > comes to cooling. I also do not have a power problem with the
> > > alternator.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can check next or maybe
> > > to determine whether this is one of the three suggested possibilities?
> > > The waterpump is cheap, but the other two are not. I'd rather nail
> > > this problem with the next weekend under the hood.
> > >
> > > Please help!!
> > >
> > > Also, please respond via the newsgroup so others can share in the
> > > knowlege transfer.


--
Will Honea

Will Honea

The idler pulley will also squeal at you the same way.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:55:10 UTC sobefun@hotmail.com (sobe) wrote:

> Eric, There is no glazing on the belt. In my initial stages of
> research on this problem, I installed a new belt. The sound was
> still there after the new belt was installed. It did change with the
> amount of tension that was put on it, but it never went away. In
> addition to changing the belt, I also adjusted the tension so that it
> would produce the shortest amount of squeal as possible.
> Infortunately, I cannot completely rid my car of the noise. :-(
>
>
> "Eric Shade" <augnero@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MW5Wc.209251$fv.1611@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
> > Is there glazing on the inside of your S-belt?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > "sobe" <sobefun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:85f2cd57.0408221027.65eac98f@posting.google.c om...
> > > HELP!!!!
> > >
> > > My 99 Jeep TJ has developed a squeal/screetch emanating from the
> > > passenger side of the motor upon startup AND sometimes when the A/C is
> > > running. I'll try to describe this as best as possible...
> > >
> > > Upon startup, when the car has been sitting for a while (At least 45
> > > minutes after last operated), the car will make a squeal when starting
> > > the car. After about 5-10 seconds, the sqeual goes away. IF I start
> > > the car under load, ie,. with the AC running, it will not stop
> > > squealing until the AC is switched off. I'm in Miami, so it is always
> > > warm. Cold weather does not happen here.
> > >
> > > Once the car has been running for a few minutes (and I am actually
> > > driving), I can turn on the AC and the sound will not be present. The
> > > car MUST be moving. Idling for 5 minutes won't prevent the squeal.
> > > This is part of my daily workaround.
> > >
> > > When driving, if I turn on the AC and the squeal is present, I simply
> > > turn it off, wait a few seconds, and then turn it back on.
> > > Eventually the AC will run and the sqeal will not be present.
> > >
> > > Once the AC is working without the squeal, all is good until the next
> > > time I let the car sit for a while without running it.
> > >
> > > This has been going on the for the past few months....
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's what I have replaced:
> > >
> > > Serpentine Belt
> > > Both non-accessory pulley's
> > > A/C compressor clutch
> > >
> > > Suggested possibilities: AC compressor bearing, alternator,
> > > waterpump.
> > >
> > > My next step is to replace one of the three above. When I have
> > > examined the motor while the noise is present, it seems to be coming
> > > from the AC compressor or the alternator. The AC works fine when it
> > > comes to cooling. I also do not have a power problem with the
> > > alternator.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can check next or maybe
> > > to determine whether this is one of the three suggested possibilities?
> > > The waterpump is cheap, but the other two are not. I'd rather nail
> > > this problem with the next weekend under the hood.
> > >
> > > Please help!!
> > >
> > > Also, please respond via the newsgroup so others can share in the
> > > knowlege transfer.


--
Will Honea

Will Honea

The idler pulley will also squeal at you the same way.

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:55:10 UTC sobefun@hotmail.com (sobe) wrote:

> Eric, There is no glazing on the belt. In my initial stages of
> research on this problem, I installed a new belt. The sound was
> still there after the new belt was installed. It did change with the
> amount of tension that was put on it, but it never went away. In
> addition to changing the belt, I also adjusted the tension so that it
> would produce the shortest amount of squeal as possible.
> Infortunately, I cannot completely rid my car of the noise. :-(
>
>
> "Eric Shade" <augnero@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<MW5Wc.209251$fv.1611@fe2.columbus.rr.com>...
> > Is there glazing on the inside of your S-belt?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > "sobe" <sobefun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:85f2cd57.0408221027.65eac98f@posting.google.c om...
> > > HELP!!!!
> > >
> > > My 99 Jeep TJ has developed a squeal/screetch emanating from the
> > > passenger side of the motor upon startup AND sometimes when the A/C is
> > > running. I'll try to describe this as best as possible...
> > >
> > > Upon startup, when the car has been sitting for a while (At least 45
> > > minutes after last operated), the car will make a squeal when starting
> > > the car. After about 5-10 seconds, the sqeual goes away. IF I start
> > > the car under load, ie,. with the AC running, it will not stop
> > > squealing until the AC is switched off. I'm in Miami, so it is always
> > > warm. Cold weather does not happen here.
> > >
> > > Once the car has been running for a few minutes (and I am actually
> > > driving), I can turn on the AC and the sound will not be present. The
> > > car MUST be moving. Idling for 5 minutes won't prevent the squeal.
> > > This is part of my daily workaround.
> > >
> > > When driving, if I turn on the AC and the squeal is present, I simply
> > > turn it off, wait a few seconds, and then turn it back on.
> > > Eventually the AC will run and the sqeal will not be present.
> > >
> > > Once the AC is working without the squeal, all is good until the next
> > > time I let the car sit for a while without running it.
> > >
> > > This has been going on the for the past few months....
> > >
> > >
> > > Here's what I have replaced:
> > >
> > > Serpentine Belt
> > > Both non-accessory pulley's
> > > A/C compressor clutch
> > >
> > > Suggested possibilities: AC compressor bearing, alternator,
> > > waterpump.
> > >
> > > My next step is to replace one of the three above. When I have
> > > examined the motor while the noise is present, it seems to be coming
> > > from the AC compressor or the alternator. The AC works fine when it
> > > comes to cooling. I also do not have a power problem with the
> > > alternator.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can check next or maybe
> > > to determine whether this is one of the three suggested possibilities?
> > > The waterpump is cheap, but the other two are not. I'd rather nail
> > > this problem with the next weekend under the hood.
> > >
> > > Please help!!
> > >
> > > Also, please respond via the newsgroup so others can share in the
> > > knowlege transfer.


--
Will Honea

G.Sandhu

Bill is right. Get a $15 tension gauge from NAPA and tighten the belt.
It actually has to be tightened more than seems obvious by the usual
pushing on the belt test.
Regards,

Guri Sandhu

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<41290016.96C43B4E@***.net>...
> You're describing a loose belt. you don't have a spring loaded
> automatic lack adjuster, like a hundred percent of the other
> manufactures. Be sure and loosen the idler pulley's bolt before you
> tighten the adjusting bolt: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg I use
> my finger depressing as hard as I can to one half inch, for the proper
> tension.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> sobe wrote:
> >
> > HELP!!!!
> >
> > My 99 Jeep TJ has developed a squeal/screetch emanating from the
> > passenger side of the motor upon startup AND sometimes when the A/C is
> > running. I'll try to describe this as best as possible...
> >
> > Upon startup, when the car has been sitting for a while (At least 45
> > minutes after last operated), the car will make a squeal when starting
> > the car. After about 5-10 seconds, the sqeual goes away. IF I start
> > the car under load, ie,. with the AC running, it will not stop
> > squealing until the AC is switched off. I'm in Miami, so it is always
> > warm. Cold weather does not happen here.
> >
> > Once the car has been running for a few minutes (and I am actually
> > driving), I can turn on the AC and the sound will not be present. The
> > car MUST be moving. Idling for 5 minutes won't prevent the squeal.
> > This is part of my daily workaround.
> >
> > When driving, if I turn on the AC and the squeal is present, I simply
> > turn it off, wait a few seconds, and then turn it back on.
> > Eventually the AC will run and the sqeal will not be present.
> >
> > Once the AC is working without the squeal, all is good until the next
> > time I let the car sit for a while without running it.
> >
> > This has been going on the for the past few months....
> >
> > Here's what I have replaced:
> >
> > Serpentine Belt
> > Both non-accessory pulley's
> > A/C compressor clutch
> >
> > Suggested possibilities: AC compressor bearing, alternator,
> > waterpump.
> >
> > My next step is to replace one of the three above. When I have
> > examined the motor while the noise is present, it seems to be coming
> > from the AC compressor or the alternator. The AC works fine when it
> > comes to cooling. I also do not have a power problem with the
> > alternator.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can check next or maybe
> > to determine whether this is one of the three suggested possibilities?
> > The waterpump is cheap, but the other two are not. I'd rather nail
> > this problem with the next weekend under the hood.
> >
> > Please help!!
> >
> > Also, please respond via the newsgroup so others can share in the
> > knowlege transfer.

G.Sandhu

Bill is right. Get a $15 tension gauge from NAPA and tighten the belt.
It actually has to be tightened more than seems obvious by the usual
pushing on the belt test.
Regards,

Guri Sandhu

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<41290016.96C43B4E@***.net>...
> You're describing a loose belt. you don't have a spring loaded
> automatic lack adjuster, like a hundred percent of the other
> manufactures. Be sure and loosen the idler pulley's bolt before you
> tighten the adjusting bolt: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg I use
> my finger depressing as hard as I can to one half inch, for the proper
> tension.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> sobe wrote:
> >
> > HELP!!!!
> >
> > My 99 Jeep TJ has developed a squeal/screetch emanating from the
> > passenger side of the motor upon startup AND sometimes when the A/C is
> > running. I'll try to describe this as best as possible...
> >
> > Upon startup, when the car has been sitting for a while (At least 45
> > minutes after last operated), the car will make a squeal when starting
> > the car. After about 5-10 seconds, the sqeual goes away. IF I start
> > the car under load, ie,. with the AC running, it will not stop
> > squealing until the AC is switched off. I'm in Miami, so it is always
> > warm. Cold weather does not happen here.
> >
> > Once the car has been running for a few minutes (and I am actually
> > driving), I can turn on the AC and the sound will not be present. The
> > car MUST be moving. Idling for 5 minutes won't prevent the squeal.
> > This is part of my daily workaround.
> >
> > When driving, if I turn on the AC and the squeal is present, I simply
> > turn it off, wait a few seconds, and then turn it back on.
> > Eventually the AC will run and the sqeal will not be present.
> >
> > Once the AC is working without the squeal, all is good until the next
> > time I let the car sit for a while without running it.
> >
> > This has been going on the for the past few months....
> >
> > Here's what I have replaced:
> >
> > Serpentine Belt
> > Both non-accessory pulley's
> > A/C compressor clutch
> >
> > Suggested possibilities: AC compressor bearing, alternator,
> > waterpump.
> >
> > My next step is to replace one of the three above. When I have
> > examined the motor while the noise is present, it seems to be coming
> > from the AC compressor or the alternator. The AC works fine when it
> > comes to cooling. I also do not have a power problem with the
> > alternator.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can check next or maybe
> > to determine whether this is one of the three suggested possibilities?
> > The waterpump is cheap, but the other two are not. I'd rather nail
> > this problem with the next weekend under the hood.
> >
> > Please help!!
> >
> > Also, please respond via the newsgroup so others can share in the
> > knowlege transfer.

G.Sandhu

Bill is right. Get a $15 tension gauge from NAPA and tighten the belt.
It actually has to be tightened more than seems obvious by the usual
pushing on the belt test.
Regards,

Guri Sandhu

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<41290016.96C43B4E@***.net>...
> You're describing a loose belt. you don't have a spring loaded
> automatic lack adjuster, like a hundred percent of the other
> manufactures. Be sure and loosen the idler pulley's bolt before you
> tighten the adjusting bolt: http://www.----------.com/serpenti.jpg I use
> my finger depressing as hard as I can to one half inch, for the proper
> tension.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> sobe wrote:
> >
> > HELP!!!!
> >
> > My 99 Jeep TJ has developed a squeal/screetch emanating from the
> > passenger side of the motor upon startup AND sometimes when the A/C is
> > running. I'll try to describe this as best as possible...
> >
> > Upon startup, when the car has been sitting for a while (At least 45
> > minutes after last operated), the car will make a squeal when starting
> > the car. After about 5-10 seconds, the sqeual goes away. IF I start
> > the car under load, ie,. with the AC running, it will not stop
> > squealing until the AC is switched off. I'm in Miami, so it is always
> > warm. Cold weather does not happen here.
> >
> > Once the car has been running for a few minutes (and I am actually
> > driving), I can turn on the AC and the sound will not be present. The
> > car MUST be moving. Idling for 5 minutes won't prevent the squeal.
> > This is part of my daily workaround.
> >
> > When driving, if I turn on the AC and the squeal is present, I simply
> > turn it off, wait a few seconds, and then turn it back on.
> > Eventually the AC will run and the sqeal will not be present.
> >
> > Once the AC is working without the squeal, all is good until the next
> > time I let the car sit for a while without running it.
> >
> > This has been going on the for the past few months....
> >
> > Here's what I have replaced:
> >
> > Serpentine Belt
> > Both non-accessory pulley's
> > A/C compressor clutch
> >
> > Suggested possibilities: AC compressor bearing, alternator,
> > waterpump.
> >
> > My next step is to replace one of the three above. When I have
> > examined the motor while the noise is present, it seems to be coming
> > from the AC compressor or the alternator. The AC works fine when it
> > comes to cooling. I also do not have a power problem with the
> > alternator.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can check next or maybe
> > to determine whether this is one of the three suggested possibilities?
> > The waterpump is cheap, but the other two are not. I'd rather nail
> > this problem with the next weekend under the hood.
> >
> > Please help!!
> >
> > Also, please respond via the newsgroup so others can share in the
> > knowlege transfer.