Speculation, please?
#81
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Re: Speculation, please?
I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
"igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
group. I appreciate all of the input.
Travis
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>>
>> > Ditto.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Roy J wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
>> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
>> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
>> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
>>
>> Man, I hope it's that easy.
>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> Happy trails!!!
>> :wq!
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!
quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
"igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
group. I appreciate all of the input.
Travis
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>>
>> > Ditto.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Roy J wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
>> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
>> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
>> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
>>
>> Man, I hope it's that easy.
>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> Happy trails!!!
>> :wq!
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!
#82
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Re: Speculation, please?
I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
"igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
group. I appreciate all of the input.
Travis
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>>
>> > Ditto.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Roy J wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
>> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
>> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
>> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
>>
>> Man, I hope it's that easy.
>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> Happy trails!!!
>> :wq!
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!
quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
"igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
group. I appreciate all of the input.
Travis
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>travis wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
>> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
>>
>> > Ditto.
>> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> >Roy J wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
>> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
>> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
>> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
>>
>> Man, I hope it's that easy.
>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>> Happy trails!!!
>> :wq!
--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
Happy trails!!!
:wq!
#83
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Re: Speculation, please?
Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
muffler. Literally!
It usually ignites in the header area.
Mike
travis wrote:
>
> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> group. I appreciate all of the input.
> Travis
>
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>
> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> >>
> >> > Ditto.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> >Roy J wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> >>
> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Travis
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >> Happy trails!!!
> >> :wq!
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
muffler. Literally!
It usually ignites in the header area.
Mike
travis wrote:
>
> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> group. I appreciate all of the input.
> Travis
>
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>
> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> >>
> >> > Ditto.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> >Roy J wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> >>
> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Travis
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >> Happy trails!!!
> >> :wq!
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
#84
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Re: Speculation, please?
Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
muffler. Literally!
It usually ignites in the header area.
Mike
travis wrote:
>
> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> group. I appreciate all of the input.
> Travis
>
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>
> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> >>
> >> > Ditto.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> >Roy J wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> >>
> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Travis
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >> Happy trails!!!
> >> :wq!
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
muffler. Literally!
It usually ignites in the header area.
Mike
travis wrote:
>
> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> group. I appreciate all of the input.
> Travis
>
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>
> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> >>
> >> > Ditto.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> >Roy J wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> >>
> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Travis
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >> Happy trails!!!
> >> :wq!
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
#85
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Re: Speculation, please?
Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
muffler. Literally!
It usually ignites in the header area.
Mike
travis wrote:
>
> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> group. I appreciate all of the input.
> Travis
>
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>
> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> >>
> >> > Ditto.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> >Roy J wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> >>
> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Travis
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >> Happy trails!!!
> >> :wq!
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
muffler. Literally!
It usually ignites in the header area.
Mike
travis wrote:
>
> I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> group. I appreciate all of the input.
> Travis
>
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
>
> >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >travis wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> >>
> >> > Ditto.
> >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> >
> >> >Roy J wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> >>
> >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Travis
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >> Happy trails!!!
> >> :wq!
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
#86
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Re: Speculation, please?
I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike knows
what he speaks. As usual ;)
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
> If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> muffler. Literally!
>
> It usually ignites in the header area.
>
> Mike
>
> travis wrote:
> >
> > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > Travis
> >
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> >
> > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >travis wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > >>
> > >> > Ditto.
> > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > >>
> > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Travis
> > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > >> Happy trails!!!
> > >> :wq!
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > Happy trails!!!
> > :wq!
what he speaks. As usual ;)
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
> If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> muffler. Literally!
>
> It usually ignites in the header area.
>
> Mike
>
> travis wrote:
> >
> > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > Travis
> >
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> >
> > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >travis wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > >>
> > >> > Ditto.
> > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > >>
> > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Travis
> > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > >> Happy trails!!!
> > >> :wq!
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > Happy trails!!!
> > :wq!
#87
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Posts: n/a
Re: Speculation, please?
I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike knows
what he speaks. As usual ;)
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
> If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> muffler. Literally!
>
> It usually ignites in the header area.
>
> Mike
>
> travis wrote:
> >
> > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > Travis
> >
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> >
> > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >travis wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > >>
> > >> > Ditto.
> > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > >>
> > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Travis
> > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > >> Happy trails!!!
> > >> :wq!
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > Happy trails!!!
> > :wq!
what he speaks. As usual ;)
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
> If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> muffler. Literally!
>
> It usually ignites in the header area.
>
> Mike
>
> travis wrote:
> >
> > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > Travis
> >
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> >
> > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >travis wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > >>
> > >> > Ditto.
> > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > >>
> > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Travis
> > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > >> Happy trails!!!
> > >> :wq!
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > Happy trails!!!
> > :wq!
#88
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Posts: n/a
Re: Speculation, please?
I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike knows
what he speaks. As usual ;)
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
> If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> muffler. Literally!
>
> It usually ignites in the header area.
>
> Mike
>
> travis wrote:
> >
> > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > Travis
> >
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> >
> > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >travis wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > >>
> > >> > Ditto.
> > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > >>
> > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Travis
> > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > >> Happy trails!!!
> > >> :wq!
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > Happy trails!!!
> > :wq!
what he speaks. As usual ;)
KH
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
>
> If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> muffler. Literally!
>
> It usually ignites in the header area.
>
> Mike
>
> travis wrote:
> >
> > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > Travis
> >
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> >
> > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > >
> > >Mike
> > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > >travis wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > >>
> > >> > Ditto.
> > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder, when
> > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has accumulated.
> > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires, and
> > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > >>
> > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Travis
> > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > >> Happy trails!!!
> > >> :wq!
> >
> > --
> > Travis
> > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > Happy trails!!!
> > :wq!
#89
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Re: Speculation, please?
That wasn't the muffler that your charming bride ripped from the bottom of
the car, was it?
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jhbzb.26293$Bk1.24113@fed1read05...
> I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike
knows
> what he speaks. As usual ;)
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> > Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
> >
> > If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> > muffler. Literally!
> >
> > It usually ignites in the header area.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > travis wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > > Travis
> > >
> > > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> > >
> > > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >travis wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Ditto.
> > > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder,
when
> > > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has
accumulated.
> > > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires,
and
> > > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > > >>
> > > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Travis
> > > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > >> Happy trails!!!
> > > >> :wq!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > Happy trails!!!
> > > :wq!
>
>
the car, was it?
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jhbzb.26293$Bk1.24113@fed1read05...
> I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike
knows
> what he speaks. As usual ;)
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> > Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
> >
> > If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> > muffler. Literally!
> >
> > It usually ignites in the header area.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > travis wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > > Travis
> > >
> > > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> > >
> > > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >travis wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Ditto.
> > > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder,
when
> > > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has
accumulated.
> > > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires,
and
> > > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > > >>
> > > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Travis
> > > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > >> Happy trails!!!
> > > >> :wq!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > Happy trails!!!
> > > :wq!
>
>
#90
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Posts: n/a
Re: Speculation, please?
That wasn't the muffler that your charming bride ripped from the bottom of
the car, was it?
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jhbzb.26293$Bk1.24113@fed1read05...
> I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike
knows
> what he speaks. As usual ;)
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> > Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
> >
> > If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> > muffler. Literally!
> >
> > It usually ignites in the header area.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > travis wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > > Travis
> > >
> > > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> > >
> > > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >travis wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Ditto.
> > > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder,
when
> > > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has
accumulated.
> > > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires,
and
> > > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > > >>
> > > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Travis
> > > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > >> Happy trails!!!
> > > >> :wq!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > Happy trails!!!
> > > :wq!
>
>
the car, was it?
"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jhbzb.26293$Bk1.24113@fed1read05...
> I blew the back plate out of my muffler once. It was pretty cool. Mike
knows
> what he speaks. As usual ;)
> KH
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3FCD2DE1.45FACC09@sympatico.ca...
> > Spark issues sure cause a banging under the hood!
> >
> > If the unburned gas gets back down the exhaust pipe it will blow up your
> > muffler. Literally!
> >
> > It usually ignites in the header area.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > travis wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm planning on doing a tuneup this weekend to my Jeep, but I don't
> > > quite see how a loose plug wire could cause the problem I have. The
> > > only way I could see it being an igntion problem would be if the
> > > "igniting" happened at the wrong time, like when the intake valve was
> > > still open. The banging sound is coming from underneath the hood.
> > > Just having a loose plug wire could cause the fuel to not get ignited,
> > > but that unburned mixture should still get shoved out of the exhaust
> > > port on the exhaust stroke. It's not like it would "build up" or
> > > accumulate in the cylinder. Just having the ignition cut out and come
> > > back (as far as I know) wouldn't cause a banging sound under the hood.
> > > It would cause a drop in power, but not the banging sound. As always,
> > > I could be missing something here. I hope I can figure out what the
> > > problem is and if/when I do I'll be sure to share what I find with the
> > > group. I appreciate all of the input.
> > > Travis
> > >
> > > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike Romain
> > > <romainm@sympatico.ca> shared the following:
> > >
> > > >A loose plug wire will sure cause that.
> > > >
> > > >Mike
> > > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > >travis wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:53:04 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > > >> <----------@***.net> shared the following:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Ditto.
> > > >> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > >> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Roy J wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Ignition problem, it's cutting out on at least one cylinder,
when
> > > >> >> it comes back it fires all the unburned gas that has
accumulated.
> > > >> >> Time to change points (if yours has them), cap, rotor, wires,
and
> > > >> >> the ignition module (if you have one)
> > > >>
> > > >> Man, I hope it's that easy.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Travis
> > > >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > >> Happy trails!!!
> > > >> :wq!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Travis
> > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > Happy trails!!!
> > > :wq!
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