Speculation, please?
#61
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Re: Speculation, please?
Haven't you been reading the "greehouse gas" discussion?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Eat beans, America needs the gas.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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>
> DougW wrote:
> >
> > Unless your talking fifteen-bean soup.
> >
> > GD&R
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> > DougW
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Eat beans, America needs the gas.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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>
> DougW wrote:
> >
> > Unless your talking fifteen-bean soup.
> >
> > GD&R
> >
> > --
> > DougW
#65
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Re: Speculation, please?
This sounds like it is running lean. The problem will be worse when the
engine is cold or you are accelerating. It could be improper timing too, but
I'd almost bet on lean fuel mixture. I would recommend checking the timing
first, and while you're doing that, rev the engine up with the timing light
on and see if the mark advances. If not, the mechanical advance is not
working. You may also want to pull the cap and rotor and make sure one of
the advance springs isn't broken or missing.
As far as the carb, I don't know what you have, but try turning the idle
screws out a turn or so and take it for a ride like that. This will give you
a small bit more gas and may lessen the problem. Other things to check are
fuel pump output volume, fuel filter, check for cracked lines, and if it is
a Holley carb, I would check the float level as well.
Chris
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:q93nsv825rnnovesaer5sbb14oj2jg7kjk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:37:55 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:45 -0500, "Joe" <me@privacy.net
> >(jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> shared the following:
> >
> >>Does it sound like a backfire?
> >
> >A little bit... Just got home and looked and don't see any burn marks
> >on the air cleaner.
>
> Oh, and it did it again on the way home. It seems like it does it
> soon after getting on the highway like it's not quite up to good
> operating temperature yet. By the time I've run at 60+ mph for a
> couple of minutes the problem seems to go away. Also I noticed I
> could feel a very slight "pulse" on my right foot that was on the gas
> pedal each time the bang noise occurred, but could not feel that same
> pulse on my left foot... which makes me think the carb is somehow
> involved here, like it's backfiring through it maybe. Still not sure
> at all.
>
> >
> >>
> >>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:f5vmsvstc3ggcrdu8od070q4ehsnk91bbg@4ax.com. ..
> >>> I'm worried about my CJ5. Yesterday while driving home from the
> >>> trails I got out on the highway and got up to about 75 mph in a hurry
> >>> to merge, then slowed down to about 65. Maybe 30 seconds later
> >>> several LOUD bangs/knocks (about 10-15 maybe) came from what sounded
> >>> like under the hood. With each bang there was a dramatic power drop
> >>> for a fraction of a second. This happened really quickly like within
> >>> 25-30 seconds or so. I let off on the gas and it seemed to help a
> >>> little bit. Each time I'd ease back on the gas the bangs would
> >>> return. I slowed down to about 50 mph and the banging sound went
> >>> away. I slowly sped back up to about 60 mph and made it the rest of
> >>> the way home without incident. I noticed when this all was happening
> >>> that my oil pressure stayed steady and my water temp was also steady.
> >>> Then... when I was driving to work this morning I heard 3-4 loud
> >>> bangs within less than 10 seconds while driving at about 65 mph on the
> >>> highway. I felt the same power drop and again noticed oil pressure
> >>> and temp remained unchanged. The problem "went away" again. I'm
> >>> thinking maybe it's backfiring through the carb (I'll check for burn
> >>> marks around the air cleaner later today) or maybe...just maybe...I
> >>> seem to recall a similar feel/sound from about 12-13 years ago when an
> >>> old Pontiac I had did something like this... turned out it had a
> >>> couple of lifters that were about to give up the ghost, or pretty much
> >>> had given up the ghost by the time I opened up the motor and replaced
> >>> them. Can y'all speculate on best-case/worst-case scenarios? Sorry I
> >>> can't give a better description of the sound. Ideas of stuff for me
> >>> to look at? Thank you in advance for input.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Travis
> >>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >>> Happy trails!!!
> >>> :wq!
> >>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
engine is cold or you are accelerating. It could be improper timing too, but
I'd almost bet on lean fuel mixture. I would recommend checking the timing
first, and while you're doing that, rev the engine up with the timing light
on and see if the mark advances. If not, the mechanical advance is not
working. You may also want to pull the cap and rotor and make sure one of
the advance springs isn't broken or missing.
As far as the carb, I don't know what you have, but try turning the idle
screws out a turn or so and take it for a ride like that. This will give you
a small bit more gas and may lessen the problem. Other things to check are
fuel pump output volume, fuel filter, check for cracked lines, and if it is
a Holley carb, I would check the float level as well.
Chris
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:q93nsv825rnnovesaer5sbb14oj2jg7kjk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:37:55 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:45 -0500, "Joe" <me@privacy.net
> >(jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> shared the following:
> >
> >>Does it sound like a backfire?
> >
> >A little bit... Just got home and looked and don't see any burn marks
> >on the air cleaner.
>
> Oh, and it did it again on the way home. It seems like it does it
> soon after getting on the highway like it's not quite up to good
> operating temperature yet. By the time I've run at 60+ mph for a
> couple of minutes the problem seems to go away. Also I noticed I
> could feel a very slight "pulse" on my right foot that was on the gas
> pedal each time the bang noise occurred, but could not feel that same
> pulse on my left foot... which makes me think the carb is somehow
> involved here, like it's backfiring through it maybe. Still not sure
> at all.
>
> >
> >>
> >>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:f5vmsvstc3ggcrdu8od070q4ehsnk91bbg@4ax.com. ..
> >>> I'm worried about my CJ5. Yesterday while driving home from the
> >>> trails I got out on the highway and got up to about 75 mph in a hurry
> >>> to merge, then slowed down to about 65. Maybe 30 seconds later
> >>> several LOUD bangs/knocks (about 10-15 maybe) came from what sounded
> >>> like under the hood. With each bang there was a dramatic power drop
> >>> for a fraction of a second. This happened really quickly like within
> >>> 25-30 seconds or so. I let off on the gas and it seemed to help a
> >>> little bit. Each time I'd ease back on the gas the bangs would
> >>> return. I slowed down to about 50 mph and the banging sound went
> >>> away. I slowly sped back up to about 60 mph and made it the rest of
> >>> the way home without incident. I noticed when this all was happening
> >>> that my oil pressure stayed steady and my water temp was also steady.
> >>> Then... when I was driving to work this morning I heard 3-4 loud
> >>> bangs within less than 10 seconds while driving at about 65 mph on the
> >>> highway. I felt the same power drop and again noticed oil pressure
> >>> and temp remained unchanged. The problem "went away" again. I'm
> >>> thinking maybe it's backfiring through the carb (I'll check for burn
> >>> marks around the air cleaner later today) or maybe...just maybe...I
> >>> seem to recall a similar feel/sound from about 12-13 years ago when an
> >>> old Pontiac I had did something like this... turned out it had a
> >>> couple of lifters that were about to give up the ghost, or pretty much
> >>> had given up the ghost by the time I opened up the motor and replaced
> >>> them. Can y'all speculate on best-case/worst-case scenarios? Sorry I
> >>> can't give a better description of the sound. Ideas of stuff for me
> >>> to look at? Thank you in advance for input.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Travis
> >>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >>> Happy trails!!!
> >>> :wq!
> >>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
#66
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Re: Speculation, please?
This sounds like it is running lean. The problem will be worse when the
engine is cold or you are accelerating. It could be improper timing too, but
I'd almost bet on lean fuel mixture. I would recommend checking the timing
first, and while you're doing that, rev the engine up with the timing light
on and see if the mark advances. If not, the mechanical advance is not
working. You may also want to pull the cap and rotor and make sure one of
the advance springs isn't broken or missing.
As far as the carb, I don't know what you have, but try turning the idle
screws out a turn or so and take it for a ride like that. This will give you
a small bit more gas and may lessen the problem. Other things to check are
fuel pump output volume, fuel filter, check for cracked lines, and if it is
a Holley carb, I would check the float level as well.
Chris
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:q93nsv825rnnovesaer5sbb14oj2jg7kjk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:37:55 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:45 -0500, "Joe" <me@privacy.net
> >(jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> shared the following:
> >
> >>Does it sound like a backfire?
> >
> >A little bit... Just got home and looked and don't see any burn marks
> >on the air cleaner.
>
> Oh, and it did it again on the way home. It seems like it does it
> soon after getting on the highway like it's not quite up to good
> operating temperature yet. By the time I've run at 60+ mph for a
> couple of minutes the problem seems to go away. Also I noticed I
> could feel a very slight "pulse" on my right foot that was on the gas
> pedal each time the bang noise occurred, but could not feel that same
> pulse on my left foot... which makes me think the carb is somehow
> involved here, like it's backfiring through it maybe. Still not sure
> at all.
>
> >
> >>
> >>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:f5vmsvstc3ggcrdu8od070q4ehsnk91bbg@4ax.com. ..
> >>> I'm worried about my CJ5. Yesterday while driving home from the
> >>> trails I got out on the highway and got up to about 75 mph in a hurry
> >>> to merge, then slowed down to about 65. Maybe 30 seconds later
> >>> several LOUD bangs/knocks (about 10-15 maybe) came from what sounded
> >>> like under the hood. With each bang there was a dramatic power drop
> >>> for a fraction of a second. This happened really quickly like within
> >>> 25-30 seconds or so. I let off on the gas and it seemed to help a
> >>> little bit. Each time I'd ease back on the gas the bangs would
> >>> return. I slowed down to about 50 mph and the banging sound went
> >>> away. I slowly sped back up to about 60 mph and made it the rest of
> >>> the way home without incident. I noticed when this all was happening
> >>> that my oil pressure stayed steady and my water temp was also steady.
> >>> Then... when I was driving to work this morning I heard 3-4 loud
> >>> bangs within less than 10 seconds while driving at about 65 mph on the
> >>> highway. I felt the same power drop and again noticed oil pressure
> >>> and temp remained unchanged. The problem "went away" again. I'm
> >>> thinking maybe it's backfiring through the carb (I'll check for burn
> >>> marks around the air cleaner later today) or maybe...just maybe...I
> >>> seem to recall a similar feel/sound from about 12-13 years ago when an
> >>> old Pontiac I had did something like this... turned out it had a
> >>> couple of lifters that were about to give up the ghost, or pretty much
> >>> had given up the ghost by the time I opened up the motor and replaced
> >>> them. Can y'all speculate on best-case/worst-case scenarios? Sorry I
> >>> can't give a better description of the sound. Ideas of stuff for me
> >>> to look at? Thank you in advance for input.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Travis
> >>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >>> Happy trails!!!
> >>> :wq!
> >>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
engine is cold or you are accelerating. It could be improper timing too, but
I'd almost bet on lean fuel mixture. I would recommend checking the timing
first, and while you're doing that, rev the engine up with the timing light
on and see if the mark advances. If not, the mechanical advance is not
working. You may also want to pull the cap and rotor and make sure one of
the advance springs isn't broken or missing.
As far as the carb, I don't know what you have, but try turning the idle
screws out a turn or so and take it for a ride like that. This will give you
a small bit more gas and may lessen the problem. Other things to check are
fuel pump output volume, fuel filter, check for cracked lines, and if it is
a Holley carb, I would check the float level as well.
Chris
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:q93nsv825rnnovesaer5sbb14oj2jg7kjk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:37:55 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:45 -0500, "Joe" <me@privacy.net
> >(jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> shared the following:
> >
> >>Does it sound like a backfire?
> >
> >A little bit... Just got home and looked and don't see any burn marks
> >on the air cleaner.
>
> Oh, and it did it again on the way home. It seems like it does it
> soon after getting on the highway like it's not quite up to good
> operating temperature yet. By the time I've run at 60+ mph for a
> couple of minutes the problem seems to go away. Also I noticed I
> could feel a very slight "pulse" on my right foot that was on the gas
> pedal each time the bang noise occurred, but could not feel that same
> pulse on my left foot... which makes me think the carb is somehow
> involved here, like it's backfiring through it maybe. Still not sure
> at all.
>
> >
> >>
> >>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:f5vmsvstc3ggcrdu8od070q4ehsnk91bbg@4ax.com. ..
> >>> I'm worried about my CJ5. Yesterday while driving home from the
> >>> trails I got out on the highway and got up to about 75 mph in a hurry
> >>> to merge, then slowed down to about 65. Maybe 30 seconds later
> >>> several LOUD bangs/knocks (about 10-15 maybe) came from what sounded
> >>> like under the hood. With each bang there was a dramatic power drop
> >>> for a fraction of a second. This happened really quickly like within
> >>> 25-30 seconds or so. I let off on the gas and it seemed to help a
> >>> little bit. Each time I'd ease back on the gas the bangs would
> >>> return. I slowed down to about 50 mph and the banging sound went
> >>> away. I slowly sped back up to about 60 mph and made it the rest of
> >>> the way home without incident. I noticed when this all was happening
> >>> that my oil pressure stayed steady and my water temp was also steady.
> >>> Then... when I was driving to work this morning I heard 3-4 loud
> >>> bangs within less than 10 seconds while driving at about 65 mph on the
> >>> highway. I felt the same power drop and again noticed oil pressure
> >>> and temp remained unchanged. The problem "went away" again. I'm
> >>> thinking maybe it's backfiring through the carb (I'll check for burn
> >>> marks around the air cleaner later today) or maybe...just maybe...I
> >>> seem to recall a similar feel/sound from about 12-13 years ago when an
> >>> old Pontiac I had did something like this... turned out it had a
> >>> couple of lifters that were about to give up the ghost, or pretty much
> >>> had given up the ghost by the time I opened up the motor and replaced
> >>> them. Can y'all speculate on best-case/worst-case scenarios? Sorry I
> >>> can't give a better description of the sound. Ideas of stuff for me
> >>> to look at? Thank you in advance for input.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Travis
> >>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >>> Happy trails!!!
> >>> :wq!
> >>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
#67
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Posts: n/a
Re: Speculation, please?
This sounds like it is running lean. The problem will be worse when the
engine is cold or you are accelerating. It could be improper timing too, but
I'd almost bet on lean fuel mixture. I would recommend checking the timing
first, and while you're doing that, rev the engine up with the timing light
on and see if the mark advances. If not, the mechanical advance is not
working. You may also want to pull the cap and rotor and make sure one of
the advance springs isn't broken or missing.
As far as the carb, I don't know what you have, but try turning the idle
screws out a turn or so and take it for a ride like that. This will give you
a small bit more gas and may lessen the problem. Other things to check are
fuel pump output volume, fuel filter, check for cracked lines, and if it is
a Holley carb, I would check the float level as well.
Chris
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:q93nsv825rnnovesaer5sbb14oj2jg7kjk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:37:55 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:45 -0500, "Joe" <me@privacy.net
> >(jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> shared the following:
> >
> >>Does it sound like a backfire?
> >
> >A little bit... Just got home and looked and don't see any burn marks
> >on the air cleaner.
>
> Oh, and it did it again on the way home. It seems like it does it
> soon after getting on the highway like it's not quite up to good
> operating temperature yet. By the time I've run at 60+ mph for a
> couple of minutes the problem seems to go away. Also I noticed I
> could feel a very slight "pulse" on my right foot that was on the gas
> pedal each time the bang noise occurred, but could not feel that same
> pulse on my left foot... which makes me think the carb is somehow
> involved here, like it's backfiring through it maybe. Still not sure
> at all.
>
> >
> >>
> >>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:f5vmsvstc3ggcrdu8od070q4ehsnk91bbg@4ax.com. ..
> >>> I'm worried about my CJ5. Yesterday while driving home from the
> >>> trails I got out on the highway and got up to about 75 mph in a hurry
> >>> to merge, then slowed down to about 65. Maybe 30 seconds later
> >>> several LOUD bangs/knocks (about 10-15 maybe) came from what sounded
> >>> like under the hood. With each bang there was a dramatic power drop
> >>> for a fraction of a second. This happened really quickly like within
> >>> 25-30 seconds or so. I let off on the gas and it seemed to help a
> >>> little bit. Each time I'd ease back on the gas the bangs would
> >>> return. I slowed down to about 50 mph and the banging sound went
> >>> away. I slowly sped back up to about 60 mph and made it the rest of
> >>> the way home without incident. I noticed when this all was happening
> >>> that my oil pressure stayed steady and my water temp was also steady.
> >>> Then... when I was driving to work this morning I heard 3-4 loud
> >>> bangs within less than 10 seconds while driving at about 65 mph on the
> >>> highway. I felt the same power drop and again noticed oil pressure
> >>> and temp remained unchanged. The problem "went away" again. I'm
> >>> thinking maybe it's backfiring through the carb (I'll check for burn
> >>> marks around the air cleaner later today) or maybe...just maybe...I
> >>> seem to recall a similar feel/sound from about 12-13 years ago when an
> >>> old Pontiac I had did something like this... turned out it had a
> >>> couple of lifters that were about to give up the ghost, or pretty much
> >>> had given up the ghost by the time I opened up the motor and replaced
> >>> them. Can y'all speculate on best-case/worst-case scenarios? Sorry I
> >>> can't give a better description of the sound. Ideas of stuff for me
> >>> to look at? Thank you in advance for input.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Travis
> >>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >>> Happy trails!!!
> >>> :wq!
> >>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
engine is cold or you are accelerating. It could be improper timing too, but
I'd almost bet on lean fuel mixture. I would recommend checking the timing
first, and while you're doing that, rev the engine up with the timing light
on and see if the mark advances. If not, the mechanical advance is not
working. You may also want to pull the cap and rotor and make sure one of
the advance springs isn't broken or missing.
As far as the carb, I don't know what you have, but try turning the idle
screws out a turn or so and take it for a ride like that. This will give you
a small bit more gas and may lessen the problem. Other things to check are
fuel pump output volume, fuel filter, check for cracked lines, and if it is
a Holley carb, I would check the float level as well.
Chris
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:q93nsv825rnnovesaer5sbb14oj2jg7kjk@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 13:37:55 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:54:45 -0500, "Joe" <me@privacy.net
> >(jo_ratner@yahoo.com)> shared the following:
> >
> >>Does it sound like a backfire?
> >
> >A little bit... Just got home and looked and don't see any burn marks
> >on the air cleaner.
>
> Oh, and it did it again on the way home. It seems like it does it
> soon after getting on the highway like it's not quite up to good
> operating temperature yet. By the time I've run at 60+ mph for a
> couple of minutes the problem seems to go away. Also I noticed I
> could feel a very slight "pulse" on my right foot that was on the gas
> pedal each time the bang noise occurred, but could not feel that same
> pulse on my left foot... which makes me think the carb is somehow
> involved here, like it's backfiring through it maybe. Still not sure
> at all.
>
> >
> >>
> >>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:f5vmsvstc3ggcrdu8od070q4ehsnk91bbg@4ax.com. ..
> >>> I'm worried about my CJ5. Yesterday while driving home from the
> >>> trails I got out on the highway and got up to about 75 mph in a hurry
> >>> to merge, then slowed down to about 65. Maybe 30 seconds later
> >>> several LOUD bangs/knocks (about 10-15 maybe) came from what sounded
> >>> like under the hood. With each bang there was a dramatic power drop
> >>> for a fraction of a second. This happened really quickly like within
> >>> 25-30 seconds or so. I let off on the gas and it seemed to help a
> >>> little bit. Each time I'd ease back on the gas the bangs would
> >>> return. I slowed down to about 50 mph and the banging sound went
> >>> away. I slowly sped back up to about 60 mph and made it the rest of
> >>> the way home without incident. I noticed when this all was happening
> >>> that my oil pressure stayed steady and my water temp was also steady.
> >>> Then... when I was driving to work this morning I heard 3-4 loud
> >>> bangs within less than 10 seconds while driving at about 65 mph on the
> >>> highway. I felt the same power drop and again noticed oil pressure
> >>> and temp remained unchanged. The problem "went away" again. I'm
> >>> thinking maybe it's backfiring through the carb (I'll check for burn
> >>> marks around the air cleaner later today) or maybe...just maybe...I
> >>> seem to recall a similar feel/sound from about 12-13 years ago when an
> >>> old Pontiac I had did something like this... turned out it had a
> >>> couple of lifters that were about to give up the ghost, or pretty much
> >>> had given up the ghost by the time I opened up the motor and replaced
> >>> them. Can y'all speculate on best-case/worst-case scenarios? Sorry I
> >>> can't give a better description of the sound. Ideas of stuff for me
> >>> to look at? Thank you in advance for input.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Travis
> >>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >>> Happy trails!!!
> >>> :wq!
> >>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> Happy trails!!!
> :wq!
#68
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Re: Speculation, please?
Right, I can ignite a six foot jet of blue flames.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> Nah. Greenhouse gas is just a bunch of hot air. ^_^
>
> --
> DougW
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> Nah. Greenhouse gas is just a bunch of hot air. ^_^
>
> --
> DougW
#69
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Posts: n/a
Re: Speculation, please?
Right, I can ignite a six foot jet of blue flames.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> Nah. Greenhouse gas is just a bunch of hot air. ^_^
>
> --
> DougW
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
DougW wrote:
>
> Nah. Greenhouse gas is just a bunch of hot air. ^_^
>
> --
> DougW
#70
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Posts: n/a
Re: Speculation, please?
Right, I can ignite a six foot jet of blue flames.
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DougW wrote:
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> Nah. Greenhouse gas is just a bunch of hot air. ^_^
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> DougW
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DougW wrote:
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> Nah. Greenhouse gas is just a bunch of hot air. ^_^
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> DougW