spark plugs
11-02-2006, 08:27 PM
#51
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Re: spark plugs
mabar wrote:
> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought
> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it
> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> overkill.
>
> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
$20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
as much as any other plug I've used.
> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought
> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it
> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> overkill.
>
> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
$20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
as much as any other plug I've used.
11-02-2006, 08:27 PM
#52
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Re: spark plugs
mabar wrote:
> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought
> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it
> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> overkill.
>
> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
$20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
as much as any other plug I've used.
> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I thought
> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change it
> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> overkill.
>
> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
$20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
as much as any other plug I've used.
11-02-2006, 11:09 PM
#53
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Re: spark plugs
What coolant are you using twice a year?
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
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> mabar wrote:
>
>> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
>> thought
>> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
>> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change
>> it
>> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
>> overkill.
>>
>> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle, I
> changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally understate
> realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased vehicle sales.
> Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412 Truck
> Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
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> mabar wrote:
>
>> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
>> thought
>> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
>> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change
>> it
>> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
>> overkill.
>>
>> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle, I
> changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally understate
> realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased vehicle sales.
> Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412 Truck
> Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
11-02-2006, 11:09 PM
#54
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Re: spark plugs
What coolant are you using twice a year?
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
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> mabar wrote:
>
>> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
>> thought
>> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
>> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change
>> it
>> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
>> overkill.
>>
>> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle, I
> changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally understate
> realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased vehicle sales.
> Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412 Truck
> Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
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> mabar wrote:
>
>> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
>> thought
>> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
>> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change
>> it
>> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
>> overkill.
>>
>> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle, I
> changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally understate
> realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased vehicle sales.
> Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412 Truck
> Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
11-02-2006, 11:09 PM
#55
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Re: spark plugs
What coolant are you using twice a year?
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
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> mabar wrote:
>
>> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
>> thought
>> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
>> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change
>> it
>> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
>> overkill.
>>
>> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle, I
> changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally understate
> realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased vehicle sales.
> Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412 Truck
> Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:68-dnXY4LvYOBtfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> mabar wrote:
>
>> Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
>> thought
>> you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
>> changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to change
>> it
>> once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
>> overkill.
>>
>> The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle, I
> changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally understate
> realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased vehicle sales.
> Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412 Truck
> Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
11-03-2006, 08:15 PM
#56
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Re: spark plugs
I think bi-annual means every other year
Semi-annual would be twice per year.
In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
Tom
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
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> mabar wrote:
>
> > Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
thought
> > you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> > changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to
change it
> > once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> > overkill.
> >
> > The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
> I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
> understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
> vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
> Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
Semi-annual would be twice per year.
In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
Tom
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:68-dnXY4LvYOBtfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> mabar wrote:
>
> > Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
thought
> > you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> > changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to
change it
> > once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> > overkill.
> >
> > The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
> I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
> understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
> vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
> Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
11-03-2006, 08:15 PM
#57
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Re: spark plugs
I think bi-annual means every other year
Semi-annual would be twice per year.
In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
Tom
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:68-dnXY4LvYOBtfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> mabar wrote:
>
> > Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
thought
> > you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> > changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to
change it
> > once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> > overkill.
> >
> > The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
> I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
> understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
> vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
> Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
Semi-annual would be twice per year.
In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
Tom
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:68-dnXY4LvYOBtfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> mabar wrote:
>
> > Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
thought
> > you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> > changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to
change it
> > once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> > overkill.
> >
> > The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
> I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
> understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
> vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
> Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
11-03-2006, 08:15 PM
#58
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Re: spark plugs
I think bi-annual means every other year
Semi-annual would be twice per year.
In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
Tom
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:68-dnXY4LvYOBtfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> mabar wrote:
>
> > Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
thought
> > you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> > changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to
change it
> > once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> > overkill.
> >
> > The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
> I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
> understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
> vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
> Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
Semi-annual would be twice per year.
In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
Tom
"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:68-dnXY4LvYOBtfYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> mabar wrote:
>
> > Wow! You change your coolant twice a year? In your original email I
thought
> > you said bi-yearly, and I thought that meant every other year. I just
> > changed the coolant on my one year old '06 Wrangler, and I plan to
change it
> > once a year, every fall in the future. It seems like twice a year is way
> > overkill.
> >
> > The OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that I finally bought are $2.98 each.
>
> I may have misspoke; I meant bi-annually, or 2X/yr. In another vehicle,
> I changed it yearly, and was surprised at the junk that came out. I've
> always been of the opinion that OEM technical writers generally
> understate realistic maintenance intervals for the sake of increased
> vehicle sales. Conspiricy theorists will probably agree with me too.
>
> $20 bucks for a set of plugs isn't bad. If you place the OEM next to a
> Champion 438, they're nearly identical. I've used the Champion 4412
> Truck Plugs which use beefier electrodes than OEM's, but that's the only
> difference I could see. In the real world, the gap eroded and worn just
> as much as any other plug I've used.
11-03-2006, 10:11 PM
#59
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Re: spark plugs
mabar wrote:
> I think bi-annual means every other year
>
> Semi-annual would be twice per year.
>
> In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
This is interesting. I'm a JC Comp Honor's student, so this is right up
my alley. And I have a copy of the AH Dictionary and an old copy of the
MLA handy, so here goes:
biˇanˇnuˇal (b-ny-l)
"bi-annually" [P] adj.
1. Happening twice each year; semiannual.
2. Occurring every two years; biennial.
This source cited from MLA:
"bi-annually." The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English
Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 03 Nov. 2006.
<Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bi-annually>
So, it appears that the term "semiannual" refers to an occurance 2X/yr.
Biennial refers to an event that happens every 2 years. And finally,
the term "bi-annual" can refer to either term.
"bi-annually" refers to an event that occurs twice a year, to wit:
biannually adv : twice a year; "we hold our big sale biannually"
(cited from same source)
So, technically, when I say that change the coolant bi-annually, it
refers to a change that occurs two times per year.
Class dismissed. And yes, I take good care of my horse. I'll probably
keep it forever, so don't get any ideas!
> I think bi-annual means every other year
>
> Semi-annual would be twice per year.
>
> In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
This is interesting. I'm a JC Comp Honor's student, so this is right up
my alley. And I have a copy of the AH Dictionary and an old copy of the
MLA handy, so here goes:
biˇanˇnuˇal (b-ny-l)
"bi-annually" [P] adj.
1. Happening twice each year; semiannual.
2. Occurring every two years; biennial.
This source cited from MLA:
"bi-annually." The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English
Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 03 Nov. 2006.
<Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bi-annually>
So, it appears that the term "semiannual" refers to an occurance 2X/yr.
Biennial refers to an event that happens every 2 years. And finally,
the term "bi-annual" can refer to either term.
"bi-annually" refers to an event that occurs twice a year, to wit:
biannually adv : twice a year; "we hold our big sale biannually"
(cited from same source)
So, technically, when I say that change the coolant bi-annually, it
refers to a change that occurs two times per year.
Class dismissed. And yes, I take good care of my horse. I'll probably
keep it forever, so don't get any ideas!
11-03-2006, 10:11 PM
#60
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Re: spark plugs
mabar wrote:
> I think bi-annual means every other year
>
> Semi-annual would be twice per year.
>
> In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
This is interesting. I'm a JC Comp Honor's student, so this is right up
my alley. And I have a copy of the AH Dictionary and an old copy of the
MLA handy, so here goes:
biˇanˇnuˇal (b-ny-l)
"bi-annually" [P] adj.
1. Happening twice each year; semiannual.
2. Occurring every two years; biennial.
This source cited from MLA:
"bi-annually." The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English
Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 03 Nov. 2006.
<Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bi-annually>
So, it appears that the term "semiannual" refers to an occurance 2X/yr.
Biennial refers to an event that happens every 2 years. And finally,
the term "bi-annual" can refer to either term.
"bi-annually" refers to an event that occurs twice a year, to wit:
biannually adv : twice a year; "we hold our big sale biannually"
(cited from same source)
So, technically, when I say that change the coolant bi-annually, it
refers to a change that occurs two times per year.
Class dismissed. And yes, I take good care of my horse. I'll probably
keep it forever, so don't get any ideas!
> I think bi-annual means every other year
>
> Semi-annual would be twice per year.
>
> In any event, it sounds like you take GREAT care of your Jeep!
This is interesting. I'm a JC Comp Honor's student, so this is right up
my alley. And I have a copy of the AH Dictionary and an old copy of the
MLA handy, so here goes:
biˇanˇnuˇal (b-ny-l)
"bi-annually" [P] adj.
1. Happening twice each year; semiannual.
2. Occurring every two years; biennial.
This source cited from MLA:
"bi-annually." The American HeritageŽ Dictionary of the English
Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 03 Nov. 2006.
<Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bi-annually>
So, it appears that the term "semiannual" refers to an occurance 2X/yr.
Biennial refers to an event that happens every 2 years. And finally,
the term "bi-annual" can refer to either term.
"bi-annually" refers to an event that occurs twice a year, to wit:
biannually adv : twice a year; "we hold our big sale biannually"
(cited from same source)
So, technically, when I say that change the coolant bi-annually, it
refers to a change that occurs two times per year.
Class dismissed. And yes, I take good care of my horse. I'll probably
keep it forever, so don't get any ideas!