mabar

I cancelled the order for the Autolite Double Platinum and went with the
OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that the engine came with. Service manual calls for
changing the plugs at 30,000 miles. I have about 23000 miles on it now and I
know I am changing them early.

Tom

"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vI2dnQEFa4M-Q9vYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I agree. The 4.0 likes nothing better than the Copper Champs or the NGK's.
> Fancy plugs are a waste of money.
>
> Carl
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:gradnVfy98RAWdvYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> > Could just be a catalog# change - carmakers do this all the time; it's
> > possible they're the same plug, just different numbers.
> >
> > Why change the plugs on an '06 already? And why expensive double-plats?
I
> > use the $0.69 cent Champion Coppers and they work great. I've also used
> > these on other cars with ground-to-anode firing designs and they worked
> > well there too.
> >
> > I've got this buddy that buys $8.00 specialty plugs for his Honda, and
he
> > swears it adds 20 hp. Balderdash!
>
>

mabar

I cancelled the order for the Autolite Double Platinum and went with the
OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that the engine came with. Service manual calls for
changing the plugs at 30,000 miles. I have about 23000 miles on it now and I
know I am changing them early.

Tom

"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:vI2dnQEFa4M-Q9vYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I agree. The 4.0 likes nothing better than the Copper Champs or the NGK's.
> Fancy plugs are a waste of money.
>
> Carl
>
> "Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
> news:gradnVfy98RAWdvYnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> > Could just be a catalog# change - carmakers do this all the time; it's
> > possible they're the same plug, just different numbers.
> >
> > Why change the plugs on an '06 already? And why expensive double-plats?
I
> > use the $0.69 cent Champion Coppers and they work great. I've also used
> > these on other cars with ground-to-anode firing designs and they worked
> > well there too.
> >
> > I've got this buddy that buys $8.00 specialty plugs for his Honda, and
he
> > swears it adds 20 hp. Balderdash!
>
>

Outatime

mabar wrote:

> I cancelled the order for the Autolite Double Platinum and went with the
> OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that the engine came with. Service manual calls for
> changing the plugs at 30,000 miles. I have about 23000 miles on it now and I
> know I am changing them early.


On an '06? That's some serious miles. I've owned my TJ for 2 years and
only have 7,000 on it.

I change them out yearly, need-be or not. I'm pretty ---- about
maintainance though. Coolant gets changed out bi-annually; oil and
filter every 60 days, air filter yearly, TB and ACT cleaning as well as
PCM error code checking/O2 sensor voltage variances and LT fuel trim
checked every oil change, and a complete engine cleaning/detailing every
month, that sort of thing. Spending more than a buck for a fancy spark
plug is just a waste of money to me.

Glad to hear that you didn't go all-out and blow a wad on double plats.
I think this is just creative marketing, nothing more. Spend the
bucks you saved taking your woman out to dinner or something nice like
that instead.

Outatime

mabar wrote:

> I cancelled the order for the Autolite Double Platinum and went with the
> OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that the engine came with. Service manual calls for
> changing the plugs at 30,000 miles. I have about 23000 miles on it now and I
> know I am changing them early.


On an '06? That's some serious miles. I've owned my TJ for 2 years and
only have 7,000 on it.

I change them out yearly, need-be or not. I'm pretty ---- about
maintainance though. Coolant gets changed out bi-annually; oil and
filter every 60 days, air filter yearly, TB and ACT cleaning as well as
PCM error code checking/O2 sensor voltage variances and LT fuel trim
checked every oil change, and a complete engine cleaning/detailing every
month, that sort of thing. Spending more than a buck for a fancy spark
plug is just a waste of money to me.

Glad to hear that you didn't go all-out and blow a wad on double plats.
I think this is just creative marketing, nothing more. Spend the
bucks you saved taking your woman out to dinner or something nice like
that instead.

Outatime

mabar wrote:

> I cancelled the order for the Autolite Double Platinum and went with the
> OEM, NGK-ZFR5N plugs that the engine came with. Service manual calls for
> changing the plugs at 30,000 miles. I have about 23000 miles on it now and I
> know I am changing them early.


On an '06? That's some serious miles. I've owned my TJ for 2 years and
only have 7,000 on it.

I change them out yearly, need-be or not. I'm pretty ---- about
maintainance though. Coolant gets changed out bi-annually; oil and
filter every 60 days, air filter yearly, TB and ACT cleaning as well as
PCM error code checking/O2 sensor voltage variances and LT fuel trim
checked every oil change, and a complete engine cleaning/detailing every
month, that sort of thing. Spending more than a buck for a fancy spark
plug is just a waste of money to me.

Glad to hear that you didn't go all-out and blow a wad on double plats.
I think this is just creative marketing, nothing more. Spend the
bucks you saved taking your woman out to dinner or something nice like
that instead.

Dave Milne

HDD have you ever checked them ? My view is that if you have to pull the
plugs to see if they are ok, you might as well screw new ones back in.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:84f9f$4547dc1f$422afc51$1599@FUSE.NET...
> That is just plain silly... sparkplugs certainly last longer than they
did
> back-in-the-day but 7-8 years?
>
>
> "hdd" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:foQ1h.6784$tb6.4907@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
> > Why bother? Still have the factory plugs in our '99 JGC......

Dave Milne

HDD have you ever checked them ? My view is that if you have to pull the
plugs to see if they are ok, you might as well screw new ones back in.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:84f9f$4547dc1f$422afc51$1599@FUSE.NET...
> That is just plain silly... sparkplugs certainly last longer than they
did
> back-in-the-day but 7-8 years?
>
>
> "hdd" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:foQ1h.6784$tb6.4907@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
> > Why bother? Still have the factory plugs in our '99 JGC......

Dave Milne

HDD have you ever checked them ? My view is that if you have to pull the
plugs to see if they are ok, you might as well screw new ones back in.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:84f9f$4547dc1f$422afc51$1599@FUSE.NET...
> That is just plain silly... sparkplugs certainly last longer than they
did
> back-in-the-day but 7-8 years?
>
>
> "hdd" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:foQ1h.6784$tb6.4907@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
> > Why bother? Still have the factory plugs in our '99 JGC......

Thomas Waldron

Outatime wrote:

> On an '06? That's some serious miles. I've owned my TJ for 2 years and
> only have 7,000 on it.
>
> I change them out yearly, need-be or not. I'm pretty ---- about
> maintainance though. Coolant gets changed out bi-annually; oil and
> filter every 60 days, air filter yearly, TB and ACT cleaning as well as
> PCM error code checking/O2 sensor voltage variances and LT fuel trim
> checked every oil change, and a complete engine cleaning/detailing every
> month, that sort of thing. Spending more than a buck for a fancy spark
> plug is just a waste of money to me.
>
> Glad to hear that you didn't go all-out and blow a wad on double plats.
> I think this is just creative marketing, nothing more. Spend the bucks
> you saved taking your woman out to dinner or something nice like that
> instead.

Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil
changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would
consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! :)
:) :) :)

I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!

tw

--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Thomas Waldron

Outatime wrote:

> On an '06? That's some serious miles. I've owned my TJ for 2 years and
> only have 7,000 on it.
>
> I change them out yearly, need-be or not. I'm pretty ---- about
> maintainance though. Coolant gets changed out bi-annually; oil and
> filter every 60 days, air filter yearly, TB and ACT cleaning as well as
> PCM error code checking/O2 sensor voltage variances and LT fuel trim
> checked every oil change, and a complete engine cleaning/detailing every
> month, that sort of thing. Spending more than a buck for a fancy spark
> plug is just a waste of money to me.
>
> Glad to hear that you didn't go all-out and blow a wad on double plats.
> I think this is just creative marketing, nothing more. Spend the bucks
> you saved taking your woman out to dinner or something nice like that
> instead.

Odd that a guy who changes his coolant out twice a year and does oil
changes before 600 miles, and spark plugs every 3500 miles, would
consider an extra buck or so per spark plug a waste of money. Wow!! :)
:) :) :)

I've got dibs on Outatime's Jeep!!

tw

--
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________