Spark Plug Wires
07-31-2003, 09:37 PM
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Spark Plug Wires
Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
(first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot. I took
the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
Do I need to buy new wires now? If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
extra money? Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
Eric
99 TJ SE
TB Swap
Other goodies...
I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
(first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot. I took
the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
Do I need to buy new wires now? If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
extra money? Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
Eric
99 TJ SE
TB Swap
Other goodies...
07-31-2003, 09:56 PM
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Re: Spark Plug Wires
Eric wrote:
> Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
> I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
> stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
> (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
> using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot.
That happens. Twisting the boot or pushing it can sometimes loosen it up
but once they get stuck they usually stay that way.
> I took
> the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
> and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
>
> Do I need to buy new wires now?
nah. Most plug wires will pull right out of the boot. Just make sure
there is a good blob of dilectric grease in there.
> If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
> extra money?
Nope. Just get a good quaility like Bosh.
> Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
> cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
Bosh, Accell, etc. All fairly much the same.
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DougW
> Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
> I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
> stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
> (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
> using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot.
That happens. Twisting the boot or pushing it can sometimes loosen it up
but once they get stuck they usually stay that way.
> I took
> the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
> and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
>
> Do I need to buy new wires now?
nah. Most plug wires will pull right out of the boot. Just make sure
there is a good blob of dilectric grease in there.
> If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
> extra money?
Nope. Just get a good quaility like Bosh.
> Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
> cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
Bosh, Accell, etc. All fairly much the same.
--
DougW
07-31-2003, 10:16 PM
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Re: Spark Plug Wires
Your OEM wires should have a lifetime warranty on them.
The aftermarket OEM wires from the dealer also have this warranty and
Yes, they are for sure worth the extra money.
Over the years I have tried every brand going of aftermarket wires and
OEM is always the best.
I am running them in my 86 CJ7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Eric wrote:
>
> Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
> I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
> stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
> (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
> using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot. I took
> the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
> and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
>
> Do I need to buy new wires now? If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
> extra money? Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
> cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> TB Swap
> Other goodies...
The aftermarket OEM wires from the dealer also have this warranty and
Yes, they are for sure worth the extra money.
Over the years I have tried every brand going of aftermarket wires and
OEM is always the best.
I am running them in my 86 CJ7.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Eric wrote:
>
> Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
> I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
> stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
> (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
> using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot. I took
> the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
> and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
>
> Do I need to buy new wires now? If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
> extra money? Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
> cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> TB Swap
> Other goodies...
07-31-2003, 10:25 PM
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Re: Spark Plug Wires
DougW wrote:
>
> Eric wrote:
> > Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
> > I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
> > stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
> > (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
> > using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot.
>
> That happens. Twisting the boot or pushing it can sometimes loosen it up
> but once they get stuck they usually stay that way.
>
> > I took
> > the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
> > and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
> >
> > Do I need to buy new wires now?
>
> nah. Most plug wires will pull right out of the boot. Just make sure
> there is a good blob of dilectric grease in there.
>
> > If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
> > extra money?
>
> Nope. Just get a good quaility like Bosh.
>
> > Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
> > cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
>
> Bosh, Accell, etc. All fairly much the same.
>
I beg to differ.
I bought the fancy Accel wires and cap and rotor to go with my Accel
SuperCoil and the cap and rotor were toast in two weeks, the wires
didn't last a year.
The rotor arced out all over the cap.
I used a ---- load of dielectric grease on the plug boots and I still
tore 4 out of 6 metal clips off the wires when I did the first plug
clean.
Ya the boots came of easy, just the metal clips wouldn't stay on the
wires, they stayed on the plugs.
Total crap!
I went OEM for all of it and haven't had an issue since.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric wrote:
> > Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
> > I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
> > stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
> > (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
> > using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot.
>
> That happens. Twisting the boot or pushing it can sometimes loosen it up
> but once they get stuck they usually stay that way.
>
> > I took
> > the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
> > and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
> >
> > Do I need to buy new wires now?
>
> nah. Most plug wires will pull right out of the boot. Just make sure
> there is a good blob of dilectric grease in there.
>
> > If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
> > extra money?
>
> Nope. Just get a good quaility like Bosh.
>
> > Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
> > cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
>
> Bosh, Accell, etc. All fairly much the same.
>
I beg to differ.
I bought the fancy Accel wires and cap and rotor to go with my Accel
SuperCoil and the cap and rotor were toast in two weeks, the wires
didn't last a year.
The rotor arced out all over the cap.
I used a ---- load of dielectric grease on the plug boots and I still
tore 4 out of 6 metal clips off the wires when I did the first plug
clean.
Ya the boots came of easy, just the metal clips wouldn't stay on the
wires, they stayed on the plugs.
Total crap!
I went OEM for all of it and haven't had an issue since.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
07-31-2003, 11:10 PM
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Re: Spark Plug Wires
Mike Romain wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> Eric wrote:
>>> Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
>>> I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
>>> stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
>>> (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
>>> using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot.
>>
>> That happens. Twisting the boot or pushing it can sometimes loosen it up
>> but once they get stuck they usually stay that way.
>>
>>> I took
>>> the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
>>> and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
>>>
>>> Do I need to buy new wires now?
>>
>> nah. Most plug wires will pull right out of the boot. Just make sure
>> there is a good blob of dilectric grease in there.
>>
>>> If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
>>> extra money?
>>
>> Nope. Just get a good quaility like Bosh.
>>
>>> Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
>>> cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
>>
>> Bosh, Accell, etc. All fairly much the same.
>>
>
> I beg to differ.
>
> I bought the fancy Accel wires and cap and rotor to go with my Accel
> SuperCoil and the cap and rotor were toast in two weeks, the wires
> didn't last a year.
>
> The rotor arced out all over the cap.
>
> I used a ---- load of dielectric grease on the plug boots and I still
> tore 4 out of 6 metal clips off the wires when I did the first plug
> clean.
>
> Ya the boots came of easy, just the metal clips wouldn't stay on the
> wires, they stayed on the plugs.
>
> Total crap!
Mine weren't that bad, but there are better than Accell. Poor choice
of product on my part. The Accell I used was a cut-your-own kit.
The ones on the Jeep now are Bosh Premium (lifetime) wires.
But what is lifetime for a wire? I find the Joop gets better gas milage
when the wires get replaced every three years or so.
Oh well..
gnite
--
DougW
> DougW wrote:
>>
>> Eric wrote:
>>> Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles, so
>>> I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
>>> stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover tool
>>> (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow, even
>>> using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot.
>>
>> That happens. Twisting the boot or pushing it can sometimes loosen it up
>> but once they get stuck they usually stay that way.
>>
>>> I took
>>> the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
>>> and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
>>>
>>> Do I need to buy new wires now?
>>
>> nah. Most plug wires will pull right out of the boot. Just make sure
>> there is a good blob of dilectric grease in there.
>>
>>> If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
>>> extra money?
>>
>> Nope. Just get a good quaility like Bosh.
>>
>>> Any particular brand of after-market better than another (and
>>> cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
>>
>> Bosh, Accell, etc. All fairly much the same.
>>
>
> I beg to differ.
>
> I bought the fancy Accel wires and cap and rotor to go with my Accel
> SuperCoil and the cap and rotor were toast in two weeks, the wires
> didn't last a year.
>
> The rotor arced out all over the cap.
>
> I used a ---- load of dielectric grease on the plug boots and I still
> tore 4 out of 6 metal clips off the wires when I did the first plug
> clean.
>
> Ya the boots came of easy, just the metal clips wouldn't stay on the
> wires, they stayed on the plugs.
>
> Total crap!
Mine weren't that bad, but there are better than Accell. Poor choice
of product on my part. The Accell I used was a cut-your-own kit.
The ones on the Jeep now are Bosh Premium (lifetime) wires.
But what is lifetime for a wire? I find the Joop gets better gas milage
when the wires get replaced every three years or so.
Oh well..
gnite
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DougW
07-31-2003, 11:27 PM
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Re: Spark Plug Wires
Eric wrote:
> Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles,
> so
> I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
> stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover
> tool
> (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow,
> even
> using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot. I took
> the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
> and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
>
> Do I need to buy new wires now? If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
> extra money? Any particular brand of after-market better than another
> (and
> cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
No, you don't need to buy new wires. What do you think you'd have to do if
you bought a set of wires you had to cut to length? You'd have to install
the boot after you've crimped the metal connector onto the wire.
> Well, I decided to swap out my plugs. I have a 99 TJ SE with 33k miles,
> so
> I figured it was about time. When I went to pull the wires, they were
> stuck. Instead of just yanking them off, I bought a plug wire remover
> tool
> (first time in 7 years of changing plugs I've had to use one). Anyhow,
> even
> using the tool, I managed to rip the metal sleeve out of the boot. I took
> the sleeve off and shoved it back into the boot when I put in the new plug
> and everything seems to be working. My guess is this is only temporary.
>
> Do I need to buy new wires now? If so, what do I buy? Are OEM worth the
> extra money? Any particular brand of after-market better than another
> (and
> cheaper than OEM)? Thanks guys!
No, you don't need to buy new wires. What do you think you'd have to do if
you bought a set of wires you had to cut to length? You'd have to install
the boot after you've crimped the metal connector onto the wire.
08-01-2003, 03:05 AM
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Re: Spark Plug Wires
what are taylor wires???
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'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
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"Wranglerjeep1" <wranglerjeep1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I use Taylor wires on all my cars.....pain in the a** to set up but very
worth
> while. Only bad thing is cost!!!! almost $100
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ
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carlo.jr@comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"Wranglerjeep1" <wranglerjeep1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I use Taylor wires on all my cars.....pain in the a** to set up but very
worth
> while. Only bad thing is cost!!!! almost $100
>
> Brian
> 88 YJ
08-01-2003, 04:32 PM
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Re: Spark Plug Wires
In article <PioWa.25467$cF.10963@rwcrnsc53>,
Carlo Jr. <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote:
>what are taylor wires???
Taylored to his vehicle wires? :-) Who knows...
I use Magnecor KV85 wires on my VW. I just got my YJ recently so I
haven't had to buy a set of wires yet.
http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/truth.htm
>
>--
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr@comcast.net
>'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
>'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
>"Wranglerjeep1" <wranglerjeep1@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20030731235307.18739.00000713@mb-m18.aol.com...
>> I use Taylor wires on all my cars.....pain in the a** to set up but very
>worth
>> while. Only bad thing is cost!!!! almost $100
>>
>> Brian
>> 88 YJ
>
>
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Carlo Jr. <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote:
>what are taylor wires???
Taylored to his vehicle wires? :-) Who knows...
I use Magnecor KV85 wires on my VW. I just got my YJ recently so I
haven't had to buy a set of wires yet.
http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/truth.htm
>
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> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr@comcast.net
>'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
>'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
>"Wranglerjeep1" <wranglerjeep1@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> I use Taylor wires on all my cars.....pain in the a** to set up but very
>worth
>> while. Only bad thing is cost!!!! almost $100
>>
>> Brian
>> 88 YJ
>
>
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08-01-2003, 07:14 PM
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Re: Spark Plug Wires
Carlo Jr. wrote:
> what are taylor wires???
http://www.taylorvertex.com/
High dollar, high quality wires used in many race and show cars.
> what are taylor wires???
http://www.taylorvertex.com/
High dollar, high quality wires used in many race and show cars.