TW

Well, 265/75R16 comes to rough 31.8 inches, which is why it is not fitting
on the stock spare mount. The tyre basically sits on the bumper and the
bolt is marginally lower as well as shorter. I think for the time being
I'll let the air out and see if it fits. I am in New Zealand, shipping
from US will be relatively expensive. How is your experience with the
adapter otherwise?

Thanks.
TW


"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c9fqr402d3f@enews2.newsguy.com...
> I think you're correct, his tires should bolt right up to the stock
carrier
> without an adapter. FWIW, I have a Tomken adapter I'll sell el- cheapo to
> get rid of it.
>
>

TW

Well, 265/75R16 comes to rough 31.8 inches, which is why it is not fitting
on the stock spare mount. The tyre basically sits on the bumper and the
bolt is marginally lower as well as shorter. I think for the time being
I'll let the air out and see if it fits. I am in New Zealand, shipping
from US will be relatively expensive. How is your experience with the
adapter otherwise?

Thanks.
TW


"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c9fqr402d3f@enews2.newsguy.com...
> I think you're correct, his tires should bolt right up to the stock
carrier
> without an adapter. FWIW, I have a Tomken adapter I'll sell el- cheapo to
> get rid of it.
>
>

TW

Well, 265/75R16 comes to rough 31.8 inches, which is why it is not fitting
on the stock spare mount. The tyre basically sits on the bumper and the
bolt is marginally lower as well as shorter. I think for the time being
I'll let the air out and see if it fits. I am in New Zealand, shipping
from US will be relatively expensive. How is your experience with the
adapter otherwise?

Thanks.
TW


"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:c9fqr402d3f@enews2.newsguy.com...
> I think you're correct, his tires should bolt right up to the stock
carrier
> without an adapter. FWIW, I have a Tomken adapter I'll sell el- cheapo to
> get rid of it.
>
>

TW

"GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:IUHuc.21338$mQ4.20261@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
>
> Are you sure that your wheel will not mount? Your new tires equate to
> basically a 31"x10.50"xR15 LT tire and I believe are the same size tires
> that come stock on the Rubicon here in the states. Did you get new wheels
> with a different off-set (backspacing)? You stated that your TJ is a 2001
> and it may have shorter mounting studs on the spare tire mount, thus
causing
> your problem.
>

Tried it many times, but it does not fit. It is 10.50 inches wide, but it
more like 31.8 inches in dia. I think your theory about the studs being
shorter than previous models might be true.

> One other cheaper trick to do is get the 3 stock mounting studs knocked
out
> of the carrier and replace them with longer, 1/2" Diameter (Grade 8)
bolts
> (Maybe about an Inch longer) and use washers and a lock nut to mount them
in
> the holes on the mounting plate. The hitch is that the 3 studs are tack
> welded in and not pressed in like the studs in your wheel hubs. The top 2
> should be fairly easy to get out, but the lower 3rd stud is harder to
reach.
> It may have to be torched out.

I do have Grade 8 2 1/2 inch long 1/2 inch bolts and nuts. I'll see if
this can be done relatively easily. I still think a hub spacer from a junk
yard can also be used.

>
> The main problem is the studs not being long enough to catch the spare
and
> get a lug on them. Longer bolts get you around this and you will not need
to
> worry about raising the spare up unless you go up to a 33" tire. The
bumper
> then gets in the way on the bottom. Also, with longer studs on the mount,
> you should not have to worry about extending the rubber bump stops, only
> raising the third brake light about an inch or so.
>

I am raising the third brake light by an inch or so. I have the bolts and
nuts, when it stops raining I'll fix the problem.

Thanks
TW

TW

"GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:IUHuc.21338$mQ4.20261@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
>
> Are you sure that your wheel will not mount? Your new tires equate to
> basically a 31"x10.50"xR15 LT tire and I believe are the same size tires
> that come stock on the Rubicon here in the states. Did you get new wheels
> with a different off-set (backspacing)? You stated that your TJ is a 2001
> and it may have shorter mounting studs on the spare tire mount, thus
causing
> your problem.
>

Tried it many times, but it does not fit. It is 10.50 inches wide, but it
more like 31.8 inches in dia. I think your theory about the studs being
shorter than previous models might be true.

> One other cheaper trick to do is get the 3 stock mounting studs knocked
out
> of the carrier and replace them with longer, 1/2" Diameter (Grade 8)
bolts
> (Maybe about an Inch longer) and use washers and a lock nut to mount them
in
> the holes on the mounting plate. The hitch is that the 3 studs are tack
> welded in and not pressed in like the studs in your wheel hubs. The top 2
> should be fairly easy to get out, but the lower 3rd stud is harder to
reach.
> It may have to be torched out.

I do have Grade 8 2 1/2 inch long 1/2 inch bolts and nuts. I'll see if
this can be done relatively easily. I still think a hub spacer from a junk
yard can also be used.

>
> The main problem is the studs not being long enough to catch the spare
and
> get a lug on them. Longer bolts get you around this and you will not need
to
> worry about raising the spare up unless you go up to a 33" tire. The
bumper
> then gets in the way on the bottom. Also, with longer studs on the mount,
> you should not have to worry about extending the rubber bump stops, only
> raising the third brake light about an inch or so.
>

I am raising the third brake light by an inch or so. I have the bolts and
nuts, when it stops raining I'll fix the problem.

Thanks
TW

TW

"GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:IUHuc.21338$mQ4.20261@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
>
> Are you sure that your wheel will not mount? Your new tires equate to
> basically a 31"x10.50"xR15 LT tire and I believe are the same size tires
> that come stock on the Rubicon here in the states. Did you get new wheels
> with a different off-set (backspacing)? You stated that your TJ is a 2001
> and it may have shorter mounting studs on the spare tire mount, thus
causing
> your problem.
>

Tried it many times, but it does not fit. It is 10.50 inches wide, but it
more like 31.8 inches in dia. I think your theory about the studs being
shorter than previous models might be true.

> One other cheaper trick to do is get the 3 stock mounting studs knocked
out
> of the carrier and replace them with longer, 1/2" Diameter (Grade 8)
bolts
> (Maybe about an Inch longer) and use washers and a lock nut to mount them
in
> the holes on the mounting plate. The hitch is that the 3 studs are tack
> welded in and not pressed in like the studs in your wheel hubs. The top 2
> should be fairly easy to get out, but the lower 3rd stud is harder to
reach.
> It may have to be torched out.

I do have Grade 8 2 1/2 inch long 1/2 inch bolts and nuts. I'll see if
this can be done relatively easily. I still think a hub spacer from a junk
yard can also be used.

>
> The main problem is the studs not being long enough to catch the spare
and
> get a lug on them. Longer bolts get you around this and you will not need
to
> worry about raising the spare up unless you go up to a 33" tire. The
bumper
> then gets in the way on the bottom. Also, with longer studs on the mount,
> you should not have to worry about extending the rubber bump stops, only
> raising the third brake light about an inch or so.
>

I am raising the third brake light by an inch or so. I have the bolts and
nuts, when it stops raining I'll fix the problem.

Thanks
TW

TW

"GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:IUHuc.21338$mQ4.20261@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
>
> Are you sure that your wheel will not mount? Your new tires equate to
> basically a 31"x10.50"xR15 LT tire and I believe are the same size tires
> that come stock on the Rubicon here in the states. Did you get new wheels
> with a different off-set (backspacing)? You stated that your TJ is a 2001
> and it may have shorter mounting studs on the spare tire mount, thus
causing
> your problem.
>

Tried it many times, but it does not fit. It is 10.50 inches wide, but it
more like 31.8 inches in dia. I think your theory about the studs being
shorter than previous models might be true.

> One other cheaper trick to do is get the 3 stock mounting studs knocked
out
> of the carrier and replace them with longer, 1/2" Diameter (Grade 8)
bolts
> (Maybe about an Inch longer) and use washers and a lock nut to mount them
in
> the holes on the mounting plate. The hitch is that the 3 studs are tack
> welded in and not pressed in like the studs in your wheel hubs. The top 2
> should be fairly easy to get out, but the lower 3rd stud is harder to
reach.
> It may have to be torched out.

I do have Grade 8 2 1/2 inch long 1/2 inch bolts and nuts. I'll see if
this can be done relatively easily. I still think a hub spacer from a junk
yard can also be used.

>
> The main problem is the studs not being long enough to catch the spare
and
> get a lug on them. Longer bolts get you around this and you will not need
to
> worry about raising the spare up unless you go up to a 33" tire. The
bumper
> then gets in the way on the bottom. Also, with longer studs on the mount,
> you should not have to worry about extending the rubber bump stops, only
> raising the third brake light about an inch or so.
>

I am raising the third brake light by an inch or so. I have the bolts and
nuts, when it stops raining I'll fix the problem.

Thanks
TW

TW

"GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:NUMuc.21648$mQ4.19493@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
>
> I know my first post was a little more in depth, but I am an engineer by
> trade and tend to overcomplicate things at times. I have been dealing
with
> this exact problem myself. I bought a new set of 32x11.50x15 this past
> Saturday. Anyway, I started thinking a little bit out of the box and
decided
> try something else. Earlier this morning after my first post I just aired
> down the new tire to about 25 PSI and it popped right on the stock
carrier
> enough to get the lug nuts on. Then I tightened it up and re-aired the
spare
> back up to 32 PSI. No problems whatsoever. However, the 3rd brake light
must
> still be extended about an inch to clear the new tire. The only problem
you
> might encounter is the rear windshield wiper arm rubbing on the 3rd brake
> light body if you are running with a hard top. No problems obviously with
a
> soft top or no top.
>

Not a problem, I am a consultant by trade so I tend to make small problems
into huge problems. I'll try it with airing down temporarily and see how
it goes. I do need a more permanent solution. What do you think about the
hub spacer idea? Could that work? I know in the long run I'll change the
carrier when I do change the rear bumper.

Thanks for the attention and time in replying to my query.
TW

TW

"GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:NUMuc.21648$mQ4.19493@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
>
> I know my first post was a little more in depth, but I am an engineer by
> trade and tend to overcomplicate things at times. I have been dealing
with
> this exact problem myself. I bought a new set of 32x11.50x15 this past
> Saturday. Anyway, I started thinking a little bit out of the box and
decided
> try something else. Earlier this morning after my first post I just aired
> down the new tire to about 25 PSI and it popped right on the stock
carrier
> enough to get the lug nuts on. Then I tightened it up and re-aired the
spare
> back up to 32 PSI. No problems whatsoever. However, the 3rd brake light
must
> still be extended about an inch to clear the new tire. The only problem
you
> might encounter is the rear windshield wiper arm rubbing on the 3rd brake
> light body if you are running with a hard top. No problems obviously with
a
> soft top or no top.
>

Not a problem, I am a consultant by trade so I tend to make small problems
into huge problems. I'll try it with airing down temporarily and see how
it goes. I do need a more permanent solution. What do you think about the
hub spacer idea? Could that work? I know in the long run I'll change the
carrier when I do change the rear bumper.

Thanks for the attention and time in replying to my query.
TW

TW

"GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:NUMuc.21648$mQ4.19493@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
>
> I know my first post was a little more in depth, but I am an engineer by
> trade and tend to overcomplicate things at times. I have been dealing
with
> this exact problem myself. I bought a new set of 32x11.50x15 this past
> Saturday. Anyway, I started thinking a little bit out of the box and
decided
> try something else. Earlier this morning after my first post I just aired
> down the new tire to about 25 PSI and it popped right on the stock
carrier
> enough to get the lug nuts on. Then I tightened it up and re-aired the
spare
> back up to 32 PSI. No problems whatsoever. However, the 3rd brake light
must
> still be extended about an inch to clear the new tire. The only problem
you
> might encounter is the rear windshield wiper arm rubbing on the 3rd brake
> light body if you are running with a hard top. No problems obviously with
a
> soft top or no top.
>

Not a problem, I am a consultant by trade so I tend to make small problems
into huge problems. I'll try it with airing down temporarily and see how
it goes. I do need a more permanent solution. What do you think about the
hub spacer idea? Could that work? I know in the long run I'll change the
carrier when I do change the rear bumper.

Thanks for the attention and time in replying to my query.
TW