Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> That would be the in fine tradition of the Wagoneer :-)

Yea.. after taking a real close look inside, outside, and under,
I'm not so certain the Grand will be my next vehicle. While I love
the idea of more power and a better AWD system, the underside just
needs way too much skid protection and the dash is.. er.. to be
polite, not near as nice as say the Toyota Land Cruiser or other
comperable vehicles. Not that I couldn't buy two Jeeps for the Landy's
price tag.. 60K owtch!

> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" wrote t...
>> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
>> another ten inches of ground clearance.

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> That would be the in fine tradition of the Wagoneer :-)

Yea.. after taking a real close look inside, outside, and under,
I'm not so certain the Grand will be my next vehicle. While I love
the idea of more power and a better AWD system, the underside just
needs way too much skid protection and the dash is.. er.. to be
polite, not near as nice as say the Toyota Land Cruiser or other
comperable vehicles. Not that I couldn't buy two Jeeps for the Landy's
price tag.. 60K owtch!

> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" wrote t...
>> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
>> another ten inches of ground clearance.

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

I weep. My kids' Powerwheels jeeps have more ground clearance.

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:414B6AA7.A9B3C877@cox.net...
> Hi Doug,
> I took the liberty to repost your pictures at:
> http://www.----------.com/cherokee/ for others to see and shake their
> heads.
> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
> another ten inches of ground clearance. The plastic gas tank in the
> middle of the car where it will be the first thing that's high centered.
> And what are those things that point at the rear axle from the rear
> bumper, like when the axle is push up against the bump stops, do they
> double as a plow? And the front end, it's lower than my '89 Bird!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
> >
> > Ok.. I had something farkled in Gravity. They should come across
> > in single posts now (providing they are under 256k)
> >
> > And they should have my correct nym. :)
> >
> > --
> > DougW

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

I weep. My kids' Powerwheels jeeps have more ground clearance.

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:414B6AA7.A9B3C877@cox.net...
> Hi Doug,
> I took the liberty to repost your pictures at:
> http://www.----------.com/cherokee/ for others to see and shake their
> heads.
> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
> another ten inches of ground clearance. The plastic gas tank in the
> middle of the car where it will be the first thing that's high centered.
> And what are those things that point at the rear axle from the rear
> bumper, like when the axle is push up against the bump stops, do they
> double as a plow? And the front end, it's lower than my '89 Bird!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
> >
> > Ok.. I had something farkled in Gravity. They should come across
> > in single posts now (providing they are under 256k)
> >
> > And they should have my correct nym. :)
> >
> > --
> > DougW

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

I weep. My kids' Powerwheels jeeps have more ground clearance.

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:414B6AA7.A9B3C877@cox.net...
> Hi Doug,
> I took the liberty to repost your pictures at:
> http://www.----------.com/cherokee/ for others to see and shake their
> heads.
> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
> another ten inches of ground clearance. The plastic gas tank in the
> middle of the car where it will be the first thing that's high centered.
> And what are those things that point at the rear axle from the rear
> bumper, like when the axle is push up against the bump stops, do they
> double as a plow? And the front end, it's lower than my '89 Bird!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
> >
> > Ok.. I had something farkled in Gravity. They should come across
> > in single posts now (providing they are under 256k)
> >
> > And they should have my correct nym. :)
> >
> > --
> > DougW

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

What a joke this has become! A Ford Explorer is probably more capable off
road, this thing's no Jeep, that's for sure.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Z8idnbUYOOBpDtbcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
>I weep. My kids' Powerwheels jeeps have more ground clearance.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:414B6AA7.A9B3C877@cox.net...
>> Hi Doug,
>> I took the liberty to repost your pictures at:
>> http://www.----------.com/cherokee/ for others to see and shake their
>> heads.
>> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
>> another ten inches of ground clearance. The plastic gas tank in the
>> middle of the car where it will be the first thing that's high centered.
>> And what are those things that point at the rear axle from the rear
>> bumper, like when the axle is push up against the bump stops, do they
>> double as a plow? And the front end, it's lower than my '89 Bird!
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok.. I had something farkled in Gravity. They should come across
>> > in single posts now (providing they are under 256k)
>> >
>> > And they should have my correct nym. :)
>> >
>> > --
>> > DougW
>
>

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

What a joke this has become! A Ford Explorer is probably more capable off
road, this thing's no Jeep, that's for sure.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Z8idnbUYOOBpDtbcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
>I weep. My kids' Powerwheels jeeps have more ground clearance.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:414B6AA7.A9B3C877@cox.net...
>> Hi Doug,
>> I took the liberty to repost your pictures at:
>> http://www.----------.com/cherokee/ for others to see and shake their
>> heads.
>> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
>> another ten inches of ground clearance. The plastic gas tank in the
>> middle of the car where it will be the first thing that's high centered.
>> And what are those things that point at the rear axle from the rear
>> bumper, like when the axle is push up against the bump stops, do they
>> double as a plow? And the front end, it's lower than my '89 Bird!
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok.. I had something farkled in Gravity. They should come across
>> > in single posts now (providing they are under 256k)
>> >
>> > And they should have my correct nym. :)
>> >
>> > --
>> > DougW
>
>

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

What a joke this has become! A Ford Explorer is probably more capable off
road, this thing's no Jeep, that's for sure.

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:Z8idnbUYOOBpDtbcRVn-hg@comcast.com...
>I weep. My kids' Powerwheels jeeps have more ground clearance.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:414B6AA7.A9B3C877@cox.net...
>> Hi Doug,
>> I took the liberty to repost your pictures at:
>> http://www.----------.com/cherokee/ for others to see and shake their
>> heads.
>> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
>> another ten inches of ground clearance. The plastic gas tank in the
>> middle of the car where it will be the first thing that's high centered.
>> And what are those things that point at the rear axle from the rear
>> bumper, like when the axle is push up against the bump stops, do they
>> double as a plow? And the front end, it's lower than my '89 Bird!
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok.. I had something farkled in Gravity. They should come across
>> > in single posts now (providing they are under 256k)
>> >
>> > And they should have my correct nym. :)
>> >
>> > --
>> > DougW
>
>

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

Hmm. The 4.7litre Toyota LC Amazon costs 48050GBP ( 86,009 US) here, while
the
Jeep GC Overland costs 34715 GBP (62,139).

:-(

On the plus side, I didnt pay much for my TJ (11,200 US with as many miles
on it).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:s9L2d.46803$OZ6.37096@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > That would be the in fine tradition of the Wagoneer :-)
>
> Yea.. after taking a real close look inside, outside, and under,
> I'm not so certain the Grand will be my next vehicle. While I love
> the idea of more power and a better AWD system, the underside just
> needs way too much skid protection and the dash is.. er.. to be
> polite, not near as nice as say the Toyota Land Cruiser or other
> comperable vehicles. Not that I couldn't buy two Jeeps for the Landy's
> price tag.. 60K owtch!
>
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" wrote t...
> >> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
> >> another ten inches of ground clearance.
>
>
>

Re: Some underbody shots of the 2005 Grand
 

Hmm. The 4.7litre Toyota LC Amazon costs 48050GBP ( 86,009 US) here, while
the
Jeep GC Overland costs 34715 GBP (62,139).

:-(

On the plus side, I didnt pay much for my TJ (11,200 US with as many miles
on it).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:s9L2d.46803$OZ6.37096@okepread06...
> Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> > That would be the in fine tradition of the Wagoneer :-)
>
> Yea.. after taking a real close look inside, outside, and under,
> I'm not so certain the Grand will be my next vehicle. While I love
> the idea of more power and a better AWD system, the underside just
> needs way too much skid protection and the dash is.. er.. to be
> polite, not near as nice as say the Toyota Land Cruiser or other
> comperable vehicles. Not that I couldn't buy two Jeeps for the Landy's
> price tag.. 60K owtch!
>
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" wrote t...
> >> They show the spare tire placed under the car where it eats up
> >> another ten inches of ground clearance.
>
>
>