Some diesel in the gas - what to do?
07-09-2003, 07:59 PM
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Some diesel in the gas - what to do?
Apparently the local station I go to accidentally
dumped some diesel in their unleaded. They
supposedly drained the storage tank but I suspect
they didn't get it all out - because - I purchased
fuel there a few days after and have noticed a little
pinging occasionally under heavy load since then.
Seems to run fine otherwise and I can make the
pinging go away if I down shift ('02 TJ Sport
4.0L ~12K miles). I don't think I got much of the
bad stuff but is there anything I should do, watch
for, think about... ? Should I run some high grade
through it, fuel injector cleaner, other? JELo
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dumped some diesel in their unleaded. They
supposedly drained the storage tank but I suspect
they didn't get it all out - because - I purchased
fuel there a few days after and have noticed a little
pinging occasionally under heavy load since then.
Seems to run fine otherwise and I can make the
pinging go away if I down shift ('02 TJ Sport
4.0L ~12K miles). I don't think I got much of the
bad stuff but is there anything I should do, watch
for, think about... ? Should I run some high grade
through it, fuel injector cleaner, other? JELo
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07-09-2003, 11:57 PM
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Re: Some diesel in the gas - what to do?
As far as I know..........I would say that there should not be any problem.
If they had dumped gas into the diesel tank - there would be major
problems - but even if they left 50 to 100 gallons in a tank that holds
thousands of gallons, it would seem, to me to be diluted out enough to be
insignificant.
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'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"JELo" <jelo@nospammail.com> wrote in message
news:3f0cad5d_3@corp.newsgroups.com...
> Apparently the local station I go to accidentally
> dumped some diesel in their unleaded. They
> supposedly drained the storage tank but I suspect
> they didn't get it all out - because - I purchased
> fuel there a few days after and have noticed a little
> pinging occasionally under heavy load since then.
> Seems to run fine otherwise and I can make the
> pinging go away if I down shift ('02 TJ Sport
> 4.0L ~12K miles). I don't think I got much of the
> bad stuff but is there anything I should do, watch
> for, think about... ? Should I run some high grade
> through it, fuel injector cleaner, other? JELo
>
>
>
>
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If they had dumped gas into the diesel tank - there would be major
problems - but even if they left 50 to 100 gallons in a tank that holds
thousands of gallons, it would seem, to me to be diluted out enough to be
insignificant.
--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr@comcast.net
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
"JELo" <jelo@nospammail.com> wrote in message
news:3f0cad5d_3@corp.newsgroups.com...
> Apparently the local station I go to accidentally
> dumped some diesel in their unleaded. They
> supposedly drained the storage tank but I suspect
> they didn't get it all out - because - I purchased
> fuel there a few days after and have noticed a little
> pinging occasionally under heavy load since then.
> Seems to run fine otherwise and I can make the
> pinging go away if I down shift ('02 TJ Sport
> 4.0L ~12K miles). I don't think I got much of the
> bad stuff but is there anything I should do, watch
> for, think about... ? Should I run some high grade
> through it, fuel injector cleaner, other? JELo
>
>
>
>
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07-10-2003, 10:27 AM
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Re: Some diesel in the gas - what to do?
Thanks to all who replied. I was concerned if it could do any 'damage'
to the TJ systems but doesn't sound like it. Thanks, JELo
> Hi Earle,
> I wouldn't think the jet fuel would ping. just that with coal oil,
> you'd have better lubricated valve guides than most. My Dad would start
> his his '35 Ford flathead V8 on gas then switch to kerosene after it was
> preheated with it's fuel line wrapped around the exhaust manifold. That
> was during W.W.II rationing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I ran a few gallons of kerosene through a '72 Duster way back when I
> > didn't have any money. Pinged like hell but ran all right...
> >
> > Earle
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to the TJ systems but doesn't sound like it. Thanks, JELo
> Hi Earle,
> I wouldn't think the jet fuel would ping. just that with coal oil,
> you'd have better lubricated valve guides than most. My Dad would start
> his his '35 Ford flathead V8 on gas then switch to kerosene after it was
> preheated with it's fuel line wrapped around the exhaust manifold. That
> was during W.W.II rationing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I ran a few gallons of kerosene through a '72 Duster way back when I
> > didn't have any money. Pinged like hell but ran all right...
> >
> > Earle
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07-10-2003, 12:40 PM
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Re: Some diesel in the gas - what to do?
> Would I be safe to assume
>that diesel has higher octane then just regular ole unleaded
>
Now there's an interesting question! My intuitive answer is no, because diesel
is so much less volatile. Also, I've seen diesel rated on a "cetane" scale,
never on octane.
Diesels rely on the extremely high compression to create the heat for ignition.
.. .
Paul B.
01 XJ
>that diesel has higher octane then just regular ole unleaded
>
Now there's an interesting question! My intuitive answer is no, because diesel
is so much less volatile. Also, I've seen diesel rated on a "cetane" scale,
never on octane.
Diesels rely on the extremely high compression to create the heat for ignition.
.. .
Paul B.
01 XJ
07-10-2003, 12:50 PM
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Re: Some diesel in the gas - what to do?
I ran out of gas one cold rainy night far from home (true story), and found 14
bottles of "HEET' under the spare tire. My Dad put them there for me to use that
winter (in Minnesota). It got me home and I continued driving the car (76 Chevy
w/ 350) for years after that with no problems.
Cheers,
- Jeff G
67 Kaiser Jeepster Commando
50 ****** 4x4 Station Wagon
Earle Horton wrote:
> I ran a few gallons of kerosene through a '72 Duster way back when I
> didn't have any money. Pinged like hell but ran all right...
>
> Earle
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > Ditto.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Carlo Jr." wrote:
> >
> >>As far as I know..........I would say that there should not be any problem.
> >>If they had dumped gas into the diesel tank - there would be major
> >>problems - but even if they left 50 to 100 gallons in a tank that holds
> >>thousands of gallons, it would seem, to me to be diluted out enough to be
> >>insignificant.
> >>
> >>--
> >> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> >> carlo.jr@comcast.net
> >>'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> >> O|||||||O
> >>'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
bottles of "HEET' under the spare tire. My Dad put them there for me to use that
winter (in Minnesota). It got me home and I continued driving the car (76 Chevy
w/ 350) for years after that with no problems.
Cheers,
- Jeff G
67 Kaiser Jeepster Commando
50 ****** 4x4 Station Wagon
Earle Horton wrote:
> I ran a few gallons of kerosene through a '72 Duster way back when I
> didn't have any money. Pinged like hell but ran all right...
>
> Earle
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > Ditto.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Carlo Jr." wrote:
> >
> >>As far as I know..........I would say that there should not be any problem.
> >>If they had dumped gas into the diesel tank - there would be major
> >>problems - but even if they left 50 to 100 gallons in a tank that holds
> >>thousands of gallons, it would seem, to me to be diluted out enough to be
> >>insignificant.
> >>
> >>--
> >> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> >> carlo.jr@comcast.net
> >>'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> >> O|||||||O
> >>'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
07-10-2003, 12:59 PM
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Re: Some diesel in the gas - what to do?
wranglerjeep1@aol.com (Wranglerjeep1) wrote:
>Besides...Diesel engines have higher compression. Would I be safe to assume
>that diesel has higher octane then just regular ole unleaded
>
>Brian
No relation.
Diesel will hurt your engine if you aren't real careful to monitor the
detonation. Since you're aware of it, you should be fine. But, diesel
will make a gas engine detonate just as gas will make a diesel do
similar. In a diesel, the timing is controlled with the fuel. In gas,
the timing is controlled with spark and since it's set up for gas, it
doesn't know to adjust for the requirements needed for diesel.
Kelly
>Besides...Diesel engines have higher compression. Would I be safe to assume
>that diesel has higher octane then just regular ole unleaded
>
>Brian
No relation.
Diesel will hurt your engine if you aren't real careful to monitor the
detonation. Since you're aware of it, you should be fine. But, diesel
will make a gas engine detonate just as gas will make a diesel do
similar. In a diesel, the timing is controlled with the fuel. In gas,
the timing is controlled with spark and since it's set up for gas, it
doesn't know to adjust for the requirements needed for diesel.
Kelly
07-10-2003, 03:13 PM
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Re: Some diesel in the gas - what to do?
Oh, yeah! I even made it home on a gallon of lacquer thinner one
night - talk about a sweet exhaust!
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:50:19 UTC Jeff Gross <jeffgross@charter.net>
wrote:
> I ran out of gas one cold rainy night far from home (true story), and found 14
> bottles of "HEET' under the spare tire. My Dad put them there for me to use that
> winter (in Minnesota). It got me home and I continued driving the car (76 Chevy
> w/ 350) for years after that with no problems.
>
> Cheers,
> - Jeff G
> 67 Kaiser Jeepster Commando
> 50 ****** 4x4 Station Wagon
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > I ran a few gallons of kerosene through a '72 Duster way back when I
> > didn't have any money. Pinged like hell but ran all right...
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >
> > > Ditto.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > "Carlo Jr." wrote:
> > >
> > >>As far as I know..........I would say that there should not be any problem.
> > >>If they had dumped gas into the diesel tank - there would be major
> > >>problems - but even if they left 50 to 100 gallons in a tank that holds
> > >>thousands of gallons, it would seem, to me to be diluted out enough to be
> > >>insignificant.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > >> carlo.jr@comcast.net
> > >>'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > >> O|||||||O
> > >>'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
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Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
night - talk about a sweet exhaust!
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 16:50:19 UTC Jeff Gross <jeffgross@charter.net>
wrote:
> I ran out of gas one cold rainy night far from home (true story), and found 14
> bottles of "HEET' under the spare tire. My Dad put them there for me to use that
> winter (in Minnesota). It got me home and I continued driving the car (76 Chevy
> w/ 350) for years after that with no problems.
>
> Cheers,
> - Jeff G
> 67 Kaiser Jeepster Commando
> 50 ****** 4x4 Station Wagon
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > I ran a few gallons of kerosene through a '72 Duster way back when I
> > didn't have any money. Pinged like hell but ran all right...
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >
> > > Ditto.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > "Carlo Jr." wrote:
> > >
> > >>As far as I know..........I would say that there should not be any problem.
> > >>If they had dumped gas into the diesel tank - there would be major
> > >>problems - but even if they left 50 to 100 gallons in a tank that holds
> > >>thousands of gallons, it would seem, to me to be diluted out enough to be
> > >>insignificant.
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> > >> carlo.jr@comcast.net
> > >>'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> > >> O|||||||O
> > >>'92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
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