Snorkel Run
12-03-2005, 03:08 PM
#51
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Re: Snorkel Run
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Fred Klingener wrote:
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > >...
> > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> >
> > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
interior?
>
> I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> that.
A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
Fred Klingener
news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> Fred Klingener wrote:
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > >...
> > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> >
> > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
interior?
>
> I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> that.
A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
Fred Klingener
12-03-2005, 03:08 PM
#52
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Re: Snorkel Run
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> Fred Klingener wrote:
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > >...
> > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> >
> > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
interior?
>
> I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> that.
A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
Fred Klingener
news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> Fred Klingener wrote:
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > >...
> > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> >
> > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
interior?
>
> I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> that.
A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
Fred Klingener
12-03-2005, 03:22 PM
#53
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Re: Snorkel Run
Fred Klingener wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> > Fred Klingener wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > > >...
> > > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> > >
> > > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
> interior?
> >
> > I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> > you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> > that.
>
> A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
> get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
> expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
>
> I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
>
> Fred Klingener
The Disco's sure are sealed. So are the TJ's for that matter. I have
been in up to the side door windows in a TJ and we didn't get wet for a
while....
By the time we got the winch set up to the tree, some was starting to
seep in but I never got wet feet. Just wished I had of brought the
shotgun, it was deer fly season and all we had on was the bikini and
half doors
I have had my CJ7 running with a bow wave off the windshield and had
lots of grab still. One Jeep could have sure used a snorkel on that
run... Some YJ's have a ram air scoop under the freakin' headlights....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> > Fred Klingener wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > > >...
> > > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> > >
> > > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
> interior?
> >
> > I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> > you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> > that.
>
> A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
> get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
> expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
>
> I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
>
> Fred Klingener
The Disco's sure are sealed. So are the TJ's for that matter. I have
been in up to the side door windows in a TJ and we didn't get wet for a
while....
By the time we got the winch set up to the tree, some was starting to
seep in but I never got wet feet. Just wished I had of brought the
shotgun, it was deer fly season and all we had on was the bikini and
half doors
I have had my CJ7 running with a bow wave off the windshield and had
lots of grab still. One Jeep could have sure used a snorkel on that
run... Some YJ's have a ram air scoop under the freakin' headlights....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
12-03-2005, 03:22 PM
#54
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Re: Snorkel Run
Fred Klingener wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> > Fred Klingener wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > > >...
> > > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> > >
> > > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
> interior?
> >
> > I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> > you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> > that.
>
> A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
> get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
> expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
>
> I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
>
> Fred Klingener
The Disco's sure are sealed. So are the TJ's for that matter. I have
been in up to the side door windows in a TJ and we didn't get wet for a
while....
By the time we got the winch set up to the tree, some was starting to
seep in but I never got wet feet. Just wished I had of brought the
shotgun, it was deer fly season and all we had on was the bikini and
half doors
I have had my CJ7 running with a bow wave off the windshield and had
lots of grab still. One Jeep could have sure used a snorkel on that
run... Some YJ's have a ram air scoop under the freakin' headlights....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> > Fred Klingener wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > > >...
> > > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> > >
> > > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
> interior?
> >
> > I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> > you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> > that.
>
> A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
> get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
> expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
>
> I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
>
> Fred Klingener
The Disco's sure are sealed. So are the TJ's for that matter. I have
been in up to the side door windows in a TJ and we didn't get wet for a
while....
By the time we got the winch set up to the tree, some was starting to
seep in but I never got wet feet. Just wished I had of brought the
shotgun, it was deer fly season and all we had on was the bikini and
half doors
I have had my CJ7 running with a bow wave off the windshield and had
lots of grab still. One Jeep could have sure used a snorkel on that
run... Some YJ's have a ram air scoop under the freakin' headlights....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
12-03-2005, 03:22 PM
#55
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Re: Snorkel Run
Fred Klingener wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> > Fred Klingener wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > > >...
> > > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> > >
> > > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
> interior?
> >
> > I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> > you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> > that.
>
> A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
> get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
> expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
>
> I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
>
> Fred Klingener
The Disco's sure are sealed. So are the TJ's for that matter. I have
been in up to the side door windows in a TJ and we didn't get wet for a
while....
By the time we got the winch set up to the tree, some was starting to
seep in but I never got wet feet. Just wished I had of brought the
shotgun, it was deer fly season and all we had on was the bikini and
half doors
I have had my CJ7 running with a bow wave off the windshield and had
lots of grab still. One Jeep could have sure used a snorkel on that
run... Some YJ's have a ram air scoop under the freakin' headlights....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391B044.8F93C3E3@sympatico.ca...
> > Fred Klingener wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> > > >...
> > > > Put a snorkel on one of them, and the driver don't even get wet....
> > >
> > > Don't they float then? At some point, don't you have to flood the
> interior?
> >
> > I never saw any of them appear to lose traction. I got a funny feeling
> > you would need a 'lot' more air than the cab holds to float a tank like
> > that.
>
> A (cubic) yard of water weighs almost 1690 pounds, so it might be hard to
> get bouyancy to affect traction in a Wrangler-size vehicle, but in an
> expedition box like the original Land Rover, seems to me might be a problem.
>
> I frankly don't know whether their passenger compartments were sealed.
>
> Fred Klingener
The Disco's sure are sealed. So are the TJ's for that matter. I have
been in up to the side door windows in a TJ and we didn't get wet for a
while....
By the time we got the winch set up to the tree, some was starting to
seep in but I never got wet feet. Just wished I had of brought the
shotgun, it was deer fly season and all we had on was the bikini and
half doors
I have had my CJ7 running with a bow wave off the windshield and had
lots of grab still. One Jeep could have sure used a snorkel on that
run... Some YJ's have a ram air scoop under the freakin' headlights....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
12-03-2005, 05:01 PM
#56
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Re: Snorkel Run
My relatively unbiased view -well, I would say that wouldn't I ?
Pros
LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
more sensible length of control arm.
LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
transfer case.
Cons
LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
rust problems.
LRs cost more than TJs.
LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
LRs are slower than TJs:-)
A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
Dave
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ya right!
>
> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>
> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
> >
> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
> >
> > Coasty
Pros
LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
more sensible length of control arm.
LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
transfer case.
Cons
LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
rust problems.
LRs cost more than TJs.
LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
LRs are slower than TJs:-)
A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
Dave
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ya right!
>
> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>
> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
> >
> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
> >
> > Coasty
12-03-2005, 05:01 PM
#57
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Posts: n/a
Re: Snorkel Run
My relatively unbiased view -well, I would say that wouldn't I ?
Pros
LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
more sensible length of control arm.
LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
transfer case.
Cons
LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
rust problems.
LRs cost more than TJs.
LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
LRs are slower than TJs:-)
A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
Dave
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ya right!
>
> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>
> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
> >
> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
> >
> > Coasty
Pros
LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
more sensible length of control arm.
LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
transfer case.
Cons
LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
rust problems.
LRs cost more than TJs.
LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
LRs are slower than TJs:-)
A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
Dave
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ya right!
>
> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>
> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
> >
> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
> >
> > Coasty
12-03-2005, 05:01 PM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Snorkel Run
My relatively unbiased view -well, I would say that wouldn't I ?
Pros
LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
more sensible length of control arm.
LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
transfer case.
Cons
LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
rust problems.
LRs cost more than TJs.
LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
LRs are slower than TJs:-)
A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
Dave
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ya right!
>
> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>
> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
> >
> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
> >
> > Coasty
Pros
LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
more sensible length of control arm.
LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
transfer case.
Cons
LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
rust problems.
LRs cost more than TJs.
LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
LRs are slower than TJs:-)
A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
Dave
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ya right!
>
> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>
> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
> Coasty wrote:
> >
> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
> >
> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
> >
> > Coasty
12-05-2005, 06:39 AM
#59
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Posts: n/a
Re: Snorkel Run
3 Rovers and a Jeep... no deep water ;)
http://media.putfile.com/Land-Rovers...ge-Nova-Scotia
Jeff
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Bokf.1894$iz3.600@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> My relatively unbiased view -well, I would say that wouldn't I ?
>
> Pros
> LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
> LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
> LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
> more sensible length of control arm.
> LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
> transfer case.
>
> Cons
> LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
> rust problems.
> LRs cost more than TJs.
> LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
> 3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
> LRs are slower than TJs:-)
>
> A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
> your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
>> LOL!
>>
>> Ya right!
>>
>> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
>> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>>
>> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
>> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
>
>> Coasty wrote:
>> >
>> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
>> >
>> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
>> >
>> > Coasty
>
>
http://media.putfile.com/Land-Rovers...ge-Nova-Scotia
Jeff
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Bokf.1894$iz3.600@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> My relatively unbiased view -well, I would say that wouldn't I ?
>
> Pros
> LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
> LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
> LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
> more sensible length of control arm.
> LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
> transfer case.
>
> Cons
> LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
> rust problems.
> LRs cost more than TJs.
> LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
> 3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
> LRs are slower than TJs:-)
>
> A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
> your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
>> LOL!
>>
>> Ya right!
>>
>> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
>> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>>
>> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
>> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
>
>> Coasty wrote:
>> >
>> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
>> >
>> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
>> >
>> > Coasty
>
>
12-05-2005, 06:39 AM
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Re: Snorkel Run
3 Rovers and a Jeep... no deep water ;)
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Jeff
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Bokf.1894$iz3.600@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> My relatively unbiased view -well, I would say that wouldn't I ?
>
> Pros
> LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
> LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
> LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
> more sensible length of control arm.
> LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
> transfer case.
>
> Cons
> LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
> rust problems.
> LRs cost more than TJs.
> LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
> 3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
> LRs are slower than TJs:-)
>
> A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
> your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
>> LOL!
>>
>> Ya right!
>>
>> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
>> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>>
>> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
>> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
>
>> Coasty wrote:
>> >
>> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
>> >
>> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
>> >
>> > Coasty
>
>
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Jeff
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1Bokf.1894$iz3.600@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> My relatively unbiased view -well, I would say that wouldn't I ?
>
> Pros
> LRs have better axles, chassis and hubs than TJs.
> LRs can carry a lot more payload than TJs.
> LRs have proper wheels/tyres from the factory, unlike TJs and a much
> more sensible length of control arm.
> LRs have about the same quality of gearbox as TJs, and a stronger
> transfer case.
>
> Cons
> LRs are not as well built as Jeeps, and have electrical problems and
> rust problems.
> LRs cost more than TJs.
> LRs dont have such a good engine as TJs now that they have scrapped the
> 3.5 ex-Buick option. The TD is not hard wearing.
> LRs are slower than TJs:-)
>
> A stock LR 90/110/130 will **** all over a stock TJ. Spend a few grand on
> your TJ, and you get the equivalent for less money overall.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4391024B.461B2D75@sympatico.ca...
>> LOL!
>>
>> Ya right!
>>
>> I have wheeled with the Land Rover factory team when they were showing
>> new Discovery owners what their 'stock' Discos could do.
>>
>> They were extremely competent and could follow all the Jeeps easily
>> across water and on sand pit wall climbs.
>
>> Coasty wrote:
>> >
>> > http://www.hv4w.org/movies/snorkelrun.mpg
>> >
>> > Lets see a land a 60K$ rover do this.
>> >
>> > Coasty
>
>