Douglas Gavilanes

Jerry Newton wrote:

>You can't drive on any beaches there? Not even Pismo?
>
>
>Jerry
>
>
>
Point of reference - most tree huggers not in Oregon live in California,
and they have methodically shut down more and more trails to anyone but
hikers. The beaches were some of the first non-trails to go.

Pretty funny, Bill, but Dan busted me up with his comment.

Actually, some parts of Orange County are legitimate water crossings
when we get a heavy rain. Earlier this week, I was out on Beach Blvd.
in Stanton doing 25mph during a 9:30PM downpour, and hit some spots
where the water was spraying up continuously over my softtop and
windshield (and I have a 4" lift and 32"s). I actually ingested a bit
of water, but the K&N held it back long enough in the filter box (for a
couple of seconds), so that I felt a slight drop in power, but never
hydrolocked or suffered damage. At that moment, I decided that I was
never going to let standing water splashing a couple of feet over my
hood destroy my engine. I've made water crossings before, v-e-r-y
slowly, but never deeper than 18" to 24" deep. And that was by choice.
This will be one less thing to worry about, no matter where the water
I'm in came from.

Thanks,

Doug

>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>news:40218037.1527EDF2@***.net...
>
>
>> You live in California, why do you want a snorkel? It's against the
>>law to drive on our beaches.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Douglas Gavilanes wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
>>>damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
>>>left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
>>>Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
>>>like this:
>>>
>>>http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>>>
>>>- I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>>>
>>>done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
>>>there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
>>>hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
>>>fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
>>>your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
>>>yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the
>>>
>>>
>install.
>
>
>>>Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
>>>me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
>>>reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
>>>factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
>>>the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
>>>might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>>>
>>>First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
>>>installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
>>>gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
>>>bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>>>
>>>Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
>>>vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
>>>me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>>>
>>>So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
>>>your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
>>>going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
>>>measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
>>>so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Doug Gavilanes
>>>GArden Grove, CA.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>

Douglas Gavilanes

Jerry Newton wrote:

>You can't drive on any beaches there? Not even Pismo?
>
>
>Jerry
>
>
>
Point of reference - most tree huggers not in Oregon live in California,
and they have methodically shut down more and more trails to anyone but
hikers. The beaches were some of the first non-trails to go.

Pretty funny, Bill, but Dan busted me up with his comment.

Actually, some parts of Orange County are legitimate water crossings
when we get a heavy rain. Earlier this week, I was out on Beach Blvd.
in Stanton doing 25mph during a 9:30PM downpour, and hit some spots
where the water was spraying up continuously over my softtop and
windshield (and I have a 4" lift and 32"s). I actually ingested a bit
of water, but the K&N held it back long enough in the filter box (for a
couple of seconds), so that I felt a slight drop in power, but never
hydrolocked or suffered damage. At that moment, I decided that I was
never going to let standing water splashing a couple of feet over my
hood destroy my engine. I've made water crossings before, v-e-r-y
slowly, but never deeper than 18" to 24" deep. And that was by choice.
This will be one less thing to worry about, no matter where the water
I'm in came from.

Thanks,

Doug

>"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>news:40218037.1527EDF2@***.net...
>
>
>> You live in California, why do you want a snorkel? It's against the
>>law to drive on our beaches.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Douglas Gavilanes wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
>>>damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
>>>left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
>>>Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
>>>like this:
>>>
>>>http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>>>
>>>- I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>>>
>>>done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
>>>there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
>>>hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
>>>fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
>>>your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
>>>yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the
>>>
>>>
>install.
>
>
>>>Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
>>>me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
>>>reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
>>>factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
>>>the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
>>>might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>>>
>>>First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
>>>installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
>>>gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
>>>bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>>>
>>>Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
>>>vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
>>>me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>>>
>>>So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
>>>your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
>>>going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
>>>measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
>>>so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Doug Gavilanes
>>>GArden Grove, CA.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>

Kevin Kina

There may be issues with the installation you're about to undertake Doug.
I've done sort of what you describe, and the whole thing required
re-engineering to work. However my application may have been more difficult
because there were TWO things I needed to clear, the windshield light mounts
and SunPerformance mirror mover brackets.

To make the snorkel fit I had to position it FORWARD and ANGLED OUT from the
prescribed mounting position. Forward to clear the lights, and angled out to
clear the mirror brackets. Here's what I changed to make the snokel fit:

1. To angle out the snorkel I discarded the door-mounting bracket and
fabricated a mount that attaches the snorkel to the mirror mount itself.
Also, I had to add washers to the body mounting bolts to act as standouts,
ie.e the lower body of the snorkel does not fit flush to the jeep body.

2. To make the snorkel mount forward I had to cut the 3-inch hole forward of
the prescribed position. This was the scary part. It's bad enough following
the template for a textbook install. But cutting in a different place? I
measured carefully for 2 solid days before I took holesaw to metal. I was
lucky, nailing the hole exactly where I needed it. Whewww!

3. There still wasn't quite enough clearance with the lights, so I had to
actually reshape the snorkel itself with an indentation. I did this by
holding the snorkel tube over a gas flame and slowly derpressing it. For
cosmetic purposes I then covered the indent with Bondo and painted black to
match.

If this sounds like a lot, it was! Took all of 4 days. Here's some pics of
the final product, which turned out just fine. Your install may be much
easier since you're only trying to clear light mounts, but I wanted to share
my eperience just in case you find something useful.

http://bbb.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/ult...;f=38;t=000246

Kevin in SF

"Douglas Gavilanes" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:kafUb.12072$F23.10464@newsread2.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
> damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
> left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
> Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
> like this:
>
> http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>
> - I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>
> done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
> there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
> hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
> fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
> your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
> yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the install.
>
> Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
> me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
> reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
> factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
> the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
> might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>
> First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
> installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
> gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
> bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>
> Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
> vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
> me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>
> So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
> your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
> going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
> measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
> so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug Gavilanes
> GArden Grove, CA.
>

Kevin Kina

There may be issues with the installation you're about to undertake Doug.
I've done sort of what you describe, and the whole thing required
re-engineering to work. However my application may have been more difficult
because there were TWO things I needed to clear, the windshield light mounts
and SunPerformance mirror mover brackets.

To make the snorkel fit I had to position it FORWARD and ANGLED OUT from the
prescribed mounting position. Forward to clear the lights, and angled out to
clear the mirror brackets. Here's what I changed to make the snokel fit:

1. To angle out the snorkel I discarded the door-mounting bracket and
fabricated a mount that attaches the snorkel to the mirror mount itself.
Also, I had to add washers to the body mounting bolts to act as standouts,
ie.e the lower body of the snorkel does not fit flush to the jeep body.

2. To make the snorkel mount forward I had to cut the 3-inch hole forward of
the prescribed position. This was the scary part. It's bad enough following
the template for a textbook install. But cutting in a different place? I
measured carefully for 2 solid days before I took holesaw to metal. I was
lucky, nailing the hole exactly where I needed it. Whewww!

3. There still wasn't quite enough clearance with the lights, so I had to
actually reshape the snorkel itself with an indentation. I did this by
holding the snorkel tube over a gas flame and slowly derpressing it. For
cosmetic purposes I then covered the indent with Bondo and painted black to
match.

If this sounds like a lot, it was! Took all of 4 days. Here's some pics of
the final product, which turned out just fine. Your install may be much
easier since you're only trying to clear light mounts, but I wanted to share
my eperience just in case you find something useful.

http://bbb.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/ult...;f=38;t=000246

Kevin in SF

"Douglas Gavilanes" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:kafUb.12072$F23.10464@newsread2.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
> damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
> left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
> Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
> like this:
>
> http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>
> - I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>
> done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
> there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
> hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
> fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
> your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
> yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the install.
>
> Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
> me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
> reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
> factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
> the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
> might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>
> First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
> installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
> gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
> bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>
> Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
> vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
> me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>
> So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
> your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
> going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
> measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
> so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug Gavilanes
> GArden Grove, CA.
>

Kevin Kina

There may be issues with the installation you're about to undertake Doug.
I've done sort of what you describe, and the whole thing required
re-engineering to work. However my application may have been more difficult
because there were TWO things I needed to clear, the windshield light mounts
and SunPerformance mirror mover brackets.

To make the snorkel fit I had to position it FORWARD and ANGLED OUT from the
prescribed mounting position. Forward to clear the lights, and angled out to
clear the mirror brackets. Here's what I changed to make the snokel fit:

1. To angle out the snorkel I discarded the door-mounting bracket and
fabricated a mount that attaches the snorkel to the mirror mount itself.
Also, I had to add washers to the body mounting bolts to act as standouts,
ie.e the lower body of the snorkel does not fit flush to the jeep body.

2. To make the snorkel mount forward I had to cut the 3-inch hole forward of
the prescribed position. This was the scary part. It's bad enough following
the template for a textbook install. But cutting in a different place? I
measured carefully for 2 solid days before I took holesaw to metal. I was
lucky, nailing the hole exactly where I needed it. Whewww!

3. There still wasn't quite enough clearance with the lights, so I had to
actually reshape the snorkel itself with an indentation. I did this by
holding the snorkel tube over a gas flame and slowly derpressing it. For
cosmetic purposes I then covered the indent with Bondo and painted black to
match.

If this sounds like a lot, it was! Took all of 4 days. Here's some pics of
the final product, which turned out just fine. Your install may be much
easier since you're only trying to clear light mounts, but I wanted to share
my eperience just in case you find something useful.

http://bbb.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/ult...;f=38;t=000246

Kevin in SF

"Douglas Gavilanes" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:kafUb.12072$F23.10464@newsread2.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
> damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
> left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
> Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
> like this:
>
> http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>
> - I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>
> done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
> there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
> hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
> fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
> your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
> yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the install.
>
> Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
> me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
> reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
> factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
> the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
> might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>
> First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
> installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
> gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
> bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>
> Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
> vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
> me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>
> So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
> your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
> going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
> measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
> so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug Gavilanes
> GArden Grove, CA.
>

Kevin Kina

Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't like remounting the water bottle near the
battery, fabricated some brackets and found a little nook to the right (pass
side) of the radiator to mount. Easier to refill there too!

"Douglas Gavilanes" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:kafUb.12072$F23.10464@newsread2.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
> damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
> left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
> Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
> like this:
>
> http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>
> - I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>
> done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
> there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
> hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
> fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
> your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
> yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the install.
>
> Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
> me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
> reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
> factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
> the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
> might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>
> First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
> installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
> gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
> bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>
> Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
> vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
> me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>
> So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
> your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
> going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
> measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
> so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug Gavilanes
> GArden Grove, CA.
>

Kevin Kina

Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't like remounting the water bottle near the
battery, fabricated some brackets and found a little nook to the right (pass
side) of the radiator to mount. Easier to refill there too!

"Douglas Gavilanes" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:kafUb.12072$F23.10464@newsread2.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
> damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
> left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
> Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
> like this:
>
> http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>
> - I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>
> done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
> there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
> hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
> fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
> your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
> yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the install.
>
> Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
> me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
> reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
> factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
> the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
> might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>
> First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
> installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
> gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
> bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>
> Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
> vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
> me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>
> So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
> your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
> going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
> measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
> so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug Gavilanes
> GArden Grove, CA.
>

Kevin Kina

Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't like remounting the water bottle near the
battery, fabricated some brackets and found a little nook to the right (pass
side) of the radiator to mount. Easier to refill there too!

"Douglas Gavilanes" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:kafUb.12072$F23.10464@newsread2.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
> Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
> damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
> left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
> Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
> like this:
>
> http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>
> - I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>
> done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
> there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
> hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
> fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
> your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
> yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the install.
>
> Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
> me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
> reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
> factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
> the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
> might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>
> First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
> installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
> gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
> bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>
> Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
> vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
> me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>
> So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
> your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
> going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
> measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
> so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>
> Regards,
>
> Doug Gavilanes
> GArden Grove, CA.
>

Douglas Gavilanes

Kevin Kina wrote:

>Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't like remounting the water bottle near the
>battery, fabricated some brackets and found a little nook to the right (pass
>side) of the radiator to mount. Easier to refill there too!
>
>"Douglas Gavilanes" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:kafUb.12072$F23.10464@newsread2.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>
>
>>Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
>>damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
>>left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
>>Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
>>like this:
>>
>>http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>>
>>- I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>>
>>done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
>>there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
>>hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
>>fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
>>your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
>>yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the install.
>>
>>Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
>>me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
>>reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
>>factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
>>the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
>>might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>>
>>First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
>>installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
>>gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
>>bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>>
>>Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
>>vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
>>me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>>
>>So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
>>your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
>>going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
>>measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
>>so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Doug Gavilanes
>>Garden Grove, CA.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Kevin,

It takes big ones to make it fit the way you did. With my luck, I'll be
buying a second (replacement) snorkel body after destroying the first
one. I've talked to ARB USA and Sun and neither party knew that the
other's product was popular enough and incompatible enough to be a
problem. I have suggested to both of them that the two inner Torx bolts
in the top and bottom of the left side hinge are well exposed and
available as anchor points for a modified mount, once the ARB is in
place. I wish I knew someone at a machine shop that could fabricate
something appropriate for me to mount the lamp on... Two spots are
better than one.

No way I'll have this installed before my trip to Oceano Dunes this
weekend. Oh, well. I'll have to skip the water crossing. Thanks for
the help.

Regards,

Doug Gavilanes
Garden Grove, CA.

Douglas Gavilanes

Kevin Kina wrote:

>Oh, forgot to mention, I didn't like remounting the water bottle near the
>battery, fabricated some brackets and found a little nook to the right (pass
>side) of the radiator to mount. Easier to refill there too!
>
>"Douglas Gavilanes" <gavilan1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:kafUb.12072$F23.10464@newsread2.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>
>
>>Greetings once again. I am about to check my reluctance to inflict
>>damage unto my YJ at the door, and put a big freakin' 3" hole in the
>>left side of the tub! Question is, has anyone that has spotlights and
>>Sun Performance windshield hinge light brackets installed (stuff looks
>>like this:
>>
>>http://www.sunperformance.com/light_mounts.htm
>>
>>- I've got the YJ bracket shown, and the lights shown on the TJ bracket)
>>
>>done this (install the ARB safari snorkel, that is), and if so, were
>>there any issues in installing the snorkel bracket at the windshield
>>hinge (not enough room because of the spotlight, ARB bracket wouldn't
>>fit over the Sun bracket, etc.), or any other concerns that you had in
>>your install? I haven't received the box with the goods from Quadratec
>>yet, but I'm trying to do some advance work in preparing for the install.
>>
>>Two surprises that I had after ordering, and talking ARB USA to e-mail
>>me the kit instructions, were that on the YJ, that the windshield washer
>>reservoir MUST be relocated onto the diagonal brace that holds the
>>factory battery tray bracket to the firewall, on the opposite side of
>>the engine compartment, and, that the windshield hinge mounted spots
>>might have to go in order to mount the snorkel.
>>
>>First off, I've got the NW Wrangler dual battery tray with 2 yellow tops
>>installed, so the factory battery tray (and diagonal bracket) are long
>>gone. No gratuitous existing factory hardware to mount the reservoir
>>bracket (provided) onto, as shown in their instructions. Hmm...
>>
>>Second, the small bracket that holds the snorkel upright alongside the
>>vertical portion of the windshield frame may not fit on my Jeep, without
>>me first losing the left spot and bracket.
>>
>>So, has anyone else already done this (with a similar configuration on
>>your YJ)? If so, any comments and suggestions are appreciated. If I'm
>>going to blow a hole in my fender, I want to make sure that I plan,
>>measure, measure, measure, and do everything else as well as possible,
>>so as to never regret my bold decision... :-{
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Doug Gavilanes
>>Garden Grove, CA.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Kevin,

It takes big ones to make it fit the way you did. With my luck, I'll be
buying a second (replacement) snorkel body after destroying the first
one. I've talked to ARB USA and Sun and neither party knew that the
other's product was popular enough and incompatible enough to be a
problem. I have suggested to both of them that the two inner Torx bolts
in the top and bottom of the left side hinge are well exposed and
available as anchor points for a modified mount, once the ARB is in
place. I wish I knew someone at a machine shop that could fabricate
something appropriate for me to mount the lamp on... Two spots are
better than one.

No way I'll have this installed before my trip to Oceano Dunes this
weekend. Oh, well. I'll have to skip the water crossing. Thanks for
the help.

Regards,

Doug Gavilanes
Garden Grove, CA.