Smooth driver
09-20-2004, 10:12 PM
#21
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Re: Smooth driver
In message <bmz3d.47475$OZ6.16049@okepread06>, "DougW" wrote:
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>> While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>> cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>> 100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>> however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>> It should have?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>> consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>
>Hey bllsht, what sensors is that picking up? Far as I know it's a combination
>of TPS, O2, and possibly MAP. I can sort of see the MAP indicating a leak against
>TPS and IAC or some sort of fuel demand/O2 indicating excess fuel vapor for too
>long. Never had a clear answer as to the cause though, just know aftermarket caps
>are usually the cause. Any cloo?
To detect a leak, it only looks at one thing. The hall effect switch on the
Leak Detection Pump, aka LDP.
Operating conditions must be right to run the test, and it will look at other
sensors for that info, but they aren't used to detect leaks.
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>> While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>> cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>> 100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>> however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>> It should have?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>> consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>
>Hey bllsht, what sensors is that picking up? Far as I know it's a combination
>of TPS, O2, and possibly MAP. I can sort of see the MAP indicating a leak against
>TPS and IAC or some sort of fuel demand/O2 indicating excess fuel vapor for too
>long. Never had a clear answer as to the cause though, just know aftermarket caps
>are usually the cause. Any cloo?
To detect a leak, it only looks at one thing. The hall effect switch on the
Leak Detection Pump, aka LDP.
Operating conditions must be right to run the test, and it will look at other
sensors for that info, but they aren't used to detect leaks.
09-20-2004, 10:12 PM
#22
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Re: Smooth driver
In message <bmz3d.47475$OZ6.16049@okepread06>, "DougW" wrote:
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>> While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>> cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>> 100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>> however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>> It should have?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>> consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>
>Hey bllsht, what sensors is that picking up? Far as I know it's a combination
>of TPS, O2, and possibly MAP. I can sort of see the MAP indicating a leak against
>TPS and IAC or some sort of fuel demand/O2 indicating excess fuel vapor for too
>long. Never had a clear answer as to the cause though, just know aftermarket caps
>are usually the cause. Any cloo?
To detect a leak, it only looks at one thing. The hall effect switch on the
Leak Detection Pump, aka LDP.
Operating conditions must be right to run the test, and it will look at other
sensors for that info, but they aren't used to detect leaks.
>bllsht did pass the time by typing:
>> In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>> While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>> cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>> 100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>> however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>> It should have?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>> consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>
>Hey bllsht, what sensors is that picking up? Far as I know it's a combination
>of TPS, O2, and possibly MAP. I can sort of see the MAP indicating a leak against
>TPS and IAC or some sort of fuel demand/O2 indicating excess fuel vapor for too
>long. Never had a clear answer as to the cause though, just know aftermarket caps
>are usually the cause. Any cloo?
To detect a leak, it only looks at one thing. The hall effect switch on the
Leak Detection Pump, aka LDP.
Operating conditions must be right to run the test, and it will look at other
sensors for that info, but they aren't used to detect leaks.
09-20-2004, 10:13 PM
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Re: Smooth driver
In message <vfiuk0pghigk73ft3dc8hhbt00loena4og@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:22:46 -0700, bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>>It should have?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>>consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>>
>
>Thanks. I was pretty reluctant to show up at the dealers complaining
>that my check engine light wasn't on.
I must say, I've never had that complaint.
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:22:46 -0700, bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>>It should have?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>>consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>>
>
>Thanks. I was pretty reluctant to show up at the dealers complaining
>that my check engine light wasn't on.
I must say, I've never had that complaint.
09-20-2004, 10:13 PM
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Re: Smooth driver
In message <vfiuk0pghigk73ft3dc8hhbt00loena4og@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:22:46 -0700, bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>>It should have?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>>consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>>
>
>Thanks. I was pretty reluctant to show up at the dealers complaining
>that my check engine light wasn't on.
I must say, I've never had that complaint.
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:22:46 -0700, bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>>It should have?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>>consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>>
>
>Thanks. I was pretty reluctant to show up at the dealers complaining
>that my check engine light wasn't on.
I must say, I've never had that complaint.
09-20-2004, 10:13 PM
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Re: Smooth driver
In message <vfiuk0pghigk73ft3dc8hhbt00loena4og@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:22:46 -0700, bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>>It should have?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>>consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>>
>
>Thanks. I was pretty reluctant to show up at the dealers complaining
>that my check engine light wasn't on.
I must say, I've never had that complaint.
>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:22:46 -0700, bllsht <nospam@invaliddot.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <otjsk0h45kps6rl3kd2ojrt37avrfnb178@4ax.com>, "Matt Osborn" wrote:
>>
>>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>>
>>>It should have?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>The evap system monitor only runs after a cold start, and it has to fail two
>>consecutive tests before the MIL is illuminated.
>>
>
>Thanks. I was pretty reluctant to show up at the dealers complaining
>that my check engine light wasn't on.
I must say, I've never had that complaint.
09-20-2004, 11:47 PM
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Re: Smooth driver
Had a similar - not the cap but the light not coming on...must have left the cap in
Placerville when filling the spare cans. Didnt notice it (no lights on at all) until
the next morning at Icehouse. You would think that no cap would do something, when
on so many rigs a loose cap will turn the stupid check engine light on. <shrug>
Least you didnt have to pay for a new cap. =)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:37:52 -0500, Matt Osborn wrote:
>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>
>>It should have?
Placerville when filling the spare cans. Didnt notice it (no lights on at all) until
the next morning at Icehouse. You would think that no cap would do something, when
on so many rigs a loose cap will turn the stupid check engine light on. <shrug>
Least you didnt have to pay for a new cap. =)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:37:52 -0500, Matt Osborn wrote:
>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>
>>It should have?
09-20-2004, 11:47 PM
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Re: Smooth driver
Had a similar - not the cap but the light not coming on...must have left the cap in
Placerville when filling the spare cans. Didnt notice it (no lights on at all) until
the next morning at Icehouse. You would think that no cap would do something, when
on so many rigs a loose cap will turn the stupid check engine light on. <shrug>
Least you didnt have to pay for a new cap. =)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:37:52 -0500, Matt Osborn wrote:
>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>
>>It should have?
Placerville when filling the spare cans. Didnt notice it (no lights on at all) until
the next morning at Icehouse. You would think that no cap would do something, when
on so many rigs a loose cap will turn the stupid check engine light on. <shrug>
Least you didnt have to pay for a new cap. =)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:37:52 -0500, Matt Osborn wrote:
>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>
>>It should have?
09-20-2004, 11:47 PM
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Re: Smooth driver
Had a similar - not the cap but the light not coming on...must have left the cap in
Placerville when filling the spare cans. Didnt notice it (no lights on at all) until
the next morning at Icehouse. You would think that no cap would do something, when
on so many rigs a loose cap will turn the stupid check engine light on. <shrug>
Least you didnt have to pay for a new cap. =)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:37:52 -0500, Matt Osborn wrote:
>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>
>>It should have?
Placerville when filling the spare cans. Didnt notice it (no lights on at all) until
the next morning at Icehouse. You would think that no cap would do something, when
on so many rigs a loose cap will turn the stupid check engine light on. <shrug>
Least you didnt have to pay for a new cap. =)
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:37:52 -0500, Matt Osborn wrote:
>>While crossing Pennsylvania last week in my 2000 TJ, I found my gas
>>cap sitting on top of my tail light when I stopped to fill up. Over
>>100 miles at freeway speeds, the cap remained on the tail light;
>>however, the check engine light did not illuminate.
>>
>>It should have?
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