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Simon Juncal 11-08-2003 02:51 AM

slow flasher problem part 2
 
Okay I replaced the tail lights (2057's) and front flashers (1057's)
(along with the front and rear marker bulbs (194's)... I hit all the
sockets with CRC and some rags. The front flashers sockets seem to be
packed with some sort of insulating grease (zinc paste?) mustard yellow
stuff with the consistency of peanut butter. I ended up fixing the SLOW
flasher but they are both still slow just not as slow (comparing with my
Boss' identical YJ). Irritatingly slow but better than the 2 second
interval the right flasher was doing before I cleaned and replaced them.

Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.

Question 2: is this zinc paste stock or something that somebody packed
in there to reduce corrosion, but that may be adding resistance and thus
causing the slow flash?


JimG 11-08-2003 11:40 AM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 
The mounting does make up the ground. The yellow paste is factory and
should not cause the problem

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Simon Juncal" <sjuncal@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3FACA095.1080903@erols.com...
> Okay I replaced the tail lights (2057's) and front flashers (1057's)
> (along with the front and rear marker bulbs (194's)... I hit all the
> sockets with CRC and some rags. The front flashers sockets seem to be
> packed with some sort of insulating grease (zinc paste?) mustard yellow
> stuff with the consistency of peanut butter. I ended up fixing the SLOW
> flasher but they are both still slow just not as slow (comparing with my
> Boss' identical YJ). Irritatingly slow but better than the 2 second
> interval the right flasher was doing before I cleaned and replaced them.
>
> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.
>
> Question 2: is this zinc paste stock or something that somebody packed
> in there to reduce corrosion, but that may be adding resistance and thus
> causing the slow flash?
>




JimG 11-08-2003 11:40 AM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 
The mounting does make up the ground. The yellow paste is factory and
should not cause the problem

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Simon Juncal" <sjuncal@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3FACA095.1080903@erols.com...
> Okay I replaced the tail lights (2057's) and front flashers (1057's)
> (along with the front and rear marker bulbs (194's)... I hit all the
> sockets with CRC and some rags. The front flashers sockets seem to be
> packed with some sort of insulating grease (zinc paste?) mustard yellow
> stuff with the consistency of peanut butter. I ended up fixing the SLOW
> flasher but they are both still slow just not as slow (comparing with my
> Boss' identical YJ). Irritatingly slow but better than the 2 second
> interval the right flasher was doing before I cleaned and replaced them.
>
> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.
>
> Question 2: is this zinc paste stock or something that somebody packed
> in there to reduce corrosion, but that may be adding resistance and thus
> causing the slow flash?
>




JimG 11-08-2003 11:40 AM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 
The mounting does make up the ground. The yellow paste is factory and
should not cause the problem

--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries


"Simon Juncal" <sjuncal@erols.com> wrote in message
news:3FACA095.1080903@erols.com...
> Okay I replaced the tail lights (2057's) and front flashers (1057's)
> (along with the front and rear marker bulbs (194's)... I hit all the
> sockets with CRC and some rags. The front flashers sockets seem to be
> packed with some sort of insulating grease (zinc paste?) mustard yellow
> stuff with the consistency of peanut butter. I ended up fixing the SLOW
> flasher but they are both still slow just not as slow (comparing with my
> Boss' identical YJ). Irritatingly slow but better than the 2 second
> interval the right flasher was doing before I cleaned and replaced them.
>
> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.
>
> Question 2: is this zinc paste stock or something that somebody packed
> in there to reduce corrosion, but that may be adding resistance and thus
> causing the slow flash?
>




Paul Calman 11-08-2003 12:09 PM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 

> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.


This is what an Ohm Meter is used for.
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 11-08-2003 12:09 PM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 

> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.


This is what an Ohm Meter is used for.
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Paul Calman 11-08-2003 12:09 PM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 

> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.


This is what an Ohm Meter is used for.
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California



Mike Romain 11-08-2003 12:36 PM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 
Flashers depend on the resistance for speed.

You have mis matched bulbs in there.....

I might be mistaken, but that should give your flasher a major
headache. Either it will flash too fast or too slow.

I have never seen one designed for odd bulbs. I always see either all
1157's or 2157's.

The 21xx is a brighter bulb I believe.

That grease is a dielectric compound to help stop socket corrosion. It
sort of helps with the ground, but only because it keeps it clean and
rust free.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Okay I replaced the tail lights (2057's) and front flashers (1057's)
> (along with the front and rear marker bulbs (194's)... I hit all the
> sockets with CRC and some rags. The front flashers sockets seem to be
> packed with some sort of insulating grease (zinc paste?) mustard yellow
> stuff with the consistency of peanut butter. I ended up fixing the SLOW
> flasher but they are both still slow just not as slow (comparing with my
> Boss' identical YJ). Irritatingly slow but better than the 2 second
> interval the right flasher was doing before I cleaned and replaced them.
>
> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.
>
> Question 2: is this zinc paste stock or something that somebody packed
> in there to reduce corrosion, but that may be adding resistance and thus
> causing the slow flash?


Mike Romain 11-08-2003 12:36 PM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 
Flashers depend on the resistance for speed.

You have mis matched bulbs in there.....

I might be mistaken, but that should give your flasher a major
headache. Either it will flash too fast or too slow.

I have never seen one designed for odd bulbs. I always see either all
1157's or 2157's.

The 21xx is a brighter bulb I believe.

That grease is a dielectric compound to help stop socket corrosion. It
sort of helps with the ground, but only because it keeps it clean and
rust free.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Okay I replaced the tail lights (2057's) and front flashers (1057's)
> (along with the front and rear marker bulbs (194's)... I hit all the
> sockets with CRC and some rags. The front flashers sockets seem to be
> packed with some sort of insulating grease (zinc paste?) mustard yellow
> stuff with the consistency of peanut butter. I ended up fixing the SLOW
> flasher but they are both still slow just not as slow (comparing with my
> Boss' identical YJ). Irritatingly slow but better than the 2 second
> interval the right flasher was doing before I cleaned and replaced them.
>
> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.
>
> Question 2: is this zinc paste stock or something that somebody packed
> in there to reduce corrosion, but that may be adding resistance and thus
> causing the slow flash?


Mike Romain 11-08-2003 12:36 PM

Re: slow flasher problem part 2
 
Flashers depend on the resistance for speed.

You have mis matched bulbs in there.....

I might be mistaken, but that should give your flasher a major
headache. Either it will flash too fast or too slow.

I have never seen one designed for odd bulbs. I always see either all
1157's or 2157's.

The 21xx is a brighter bulb I believe.

That grease is a dielectric compound to help stop socket corrosion. It
sort of helps with the ground, but only because it keeps it clean and
rust free.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Okay I replaced the tail lights (2057's) and front flashers (1057's)
> (along with the front and rear marker bulbs (194's)... I hit all the
> sockets with CRC and some rags. The front flashers sockets seem to be
> packed with some sort of insulating grease (zinc paste?) mustard yellow
> stuff with the consistency of peanut butter. I ended up fixing the SLOW
> flasher but they are both still slow just not as slow (comparing with my
> Boss' identical YJ). Irritatingly slow but better than the 2 second
> interval the right flasher was doing before I cleaned and replaced them.
>
> Question: does the zinc coated metal plate inside the tail light housing
> play a part in the grounding process? The mounting bolts (if they are
> part of the ground) are rusty and could be the source of the slowness.
>
> Question 2: is this zinc paste stock or something that somebody packed
> in there to reduce corrosion, but that may be adding resistance and thus
> causing the slow flash?



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