slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

I'm planning to replace my rear driveshaft w/a cv shaft soon, and get
the SYE installed on the t-case at same time. (I'm really overdue with
this conversion and driveshaft replacement; I've had a 4" lift and 1"
t-case drop installed for over a year now, and need to finally replace
that u-joint rear!)

My questions to the group are:

1) What brand/model/whatever of SYE kit do you recommend? Does it
matter? This is with a stock 1997 TJ t-case.

2) I'm thinking about installing the SYE kit myself. I've never
cracked a t-case (or tranny or anything...) before, but I'm pretty
confident, and gutsy about attempting new challenges like this.
However, I want to make sure that if I choose to do this myself rather
than pay a shop, that I know what I'm getting myself into. So, please
let me know of any pitfalls or tips/tricks I might find useful when
performing a SYE kit install on my t-case. And, if there are any
special tools that I'll want to have on hand or buy for the install,
I'd appreciate a heads-up in that department as well. I've looked
through the web and found a couple of reports on performing this type
of install, but most of them seem to assume you know what you're doing
with an open t-case (and you now how to remove it, for that matter).
If anyone knows of some good guides/instructions for this sort of
thing, feel free to point me to them! (Bill...;-) I just know you got
some links for this!)

Thanks!

/Bob

Hmm...maybe one day I'll learn enough that I can maybe ANSWER a
question or two on this forum, rather than just asking them...yeah
right! lol

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0310061901.4bec7f13@posting.google.c om...
> 1) What brand/model/whatever of SYE kit do you recommend? Does it
> matter? This is with a stock 1997 TJ t-case.

i used the black diamond kit that replaces the mainshaft. here is a write
up of a similar install. http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
that said, if i had it to do over again i think i would use the RE "hack &
tap" setup which is cheaper, much easier to install and regardless of claims
to the contrary, i believe it to be just as strong.

> 2) I'm thinking about installing the SYE kit myself. I've never
> cracked a t-case (or tranny or anything...) before, but I'm pretty
> confident, and gutsy about attempting new challenges like this.
> However, I want to make sure that if I choose to do this myself rather
> than pay a shop, that I know what I'm getting myself into. So, please
> let me know of any pitfalls or tips/tricks

my install was fast and easy except for one part. keeping the oil pick up
tube connected was a _bitch_ during reassembly. go with the "hack & tap"
and be done with it. no point in making it harder than it has to be. i
know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0310061901.4bec7f13@posting.google.c om...
> 1) What brand/model/whatever of SYE kit do you recommend? Does it
> matter? This is with a stock 1997 TJ t-case.

i used the black diamond kit that replaces the mainshaft. here is a write
up of a similar install. http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
that said, if i had it to do over again i think i would use the RE "hack &
tap" setup which is cheaper, much easier to install and regardless of claims
to the contrary, i believe it to be just as strong.

> 2) I'm thinking about installing the SYE kit myself. I've never
> cracked a t-case (or tranny or anything...) before, but I'm pretty
> confident, and gutsy about attempting new challenges like this.
> However, I want to make sure that if I choose to do this myself rather
> than pay a shop, that I know what I'm getting myself into. So, please
> let me know of any pitfalls or tips/tricks

my install was fast and easy except for one part. keeping the oil pick up
tube connected was a _bitch_ during reassembly. go with the "hack & tap"
and be done with it. no point in making it harder than it has to be. i
know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0310061901.4bec7f13@posting.google.c om...
> 1) What brand/model/whatever of SYE kit do you recommend? Does it
> matter? This is with a stock 1997 TJ t-case.

i used the black diamond kit that replaces the mainshaft. here is a write
up of a similar install. http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
that said, if i had it to do over again i think i would use the RE "hack &
tap" setup which is cheaper, much easier to install and regardless of claims
to the contrary, i believe it to be just as strong.

> 2) I'm thinking about installing the SYE kit myself. I've never
> cracked a t-case (or tranny or anything...) before, but I'm pretty
> confident, and gutsy about attempting new challenges like this.
> However, I want to make sure that if I choose to do this myself rather
> than pay a shop, that I know what I'm getting myself into. So, please
> let me know of any pitfalls or tips/tricks

my install was fast and easy except for one part. keeping the oil pick up
tube connected was a _bitch_ during reassembly. go with the "hack & tap"
and be done with it. no point in making it harder than it has to be. i
know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system.


--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

In article <OHqgb.31495$xB4.9220@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> writes:

> i
>know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system

http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/allapart.jpg

Look at the two mainshafts...look at the difference in thickness south of the
syncro bearing surfaces. That's the advantage.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

In article <OHqgb.31495$xB4.9220@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> writes:

> i
>know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system

http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/allapart.jpg

Look at the two mainshafts...look at the difference in thickness south of the
syncro bearing surfaces. That's the advantage.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

In article <OHqgb.31495$xB4.9220@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Nathan W. Collier"
<JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> writes:

> i
>know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system

http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/allapart.jpg

Look at the two mainshafts...look at the difference in thickness south of the
syncro bearing surfaces. That's the advantage.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

The main advantage of the shaft replacement type is a stronger and shorter
output shaft.
Actually, the "hack and tap" system can work if you do it carefully. One
thing you don't want to do and that is to drill too deep. If you do, you
get into the narrow part of the shaft and really weaken it.
If you do the type of wheeling that breaks things, get the HD shaft
replacement type of SYE. Otherwise, the "hack and tap" system can save you
some bucks (you still have to get a new driveshaft, though.)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:OHqgb.31495$xB4.9220@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0310061901.4bec7f13@posting.google.c om...
> > 1) What brand/model/whatever of SYE kit do you recommend? Does it
> > matter? This is with a stock 1997 TJ t-case.
>
> i used the black diamond kit that replaces the mainshaft. here is a write
> up of a similar install. http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> that said, if i had it to do over again i think i would use the RE "hack &
> tap" setup which is cheaper, much easier to install and regardless of
claims
> to the contrary, i believe it to be just as strong.
>
> > 2) I'm thinking about installing the SYE kit myself. I've never
> > cracked a t-case (or tranny or anything...) before, but I'm pretty
> > confident, and gutsy about attempting new challenges like this.
> > However, I want to make sure that if I choose to do this myself rather
> > than pay a shop, that I know what I'm getting myself into. So, please
> > let me know of any pitfalls or tips/tricks
>
> my install was fast and easy except for one part. keeping the oil pick up
> tube connected was a _bitch_ during reassembly. go with the "hack & tap"
> and be done with it. no point in making it harder than it has to be. i
> know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

The main advantage of the shaft replacement type is a stronger and shorter
output shaft.
Actually, the "hack and tap" system can work if you do it carefully. One
thing you don't want to do and that is to drill too deep. If you do, you
get into the narrow part of the shaft and really weaken it.
If you do the type of wheeling that breaks things, get the HD shaft
replacement type of SYE. Otherwise, the "hack and tap" system can save you
some bucks (you still have to get a new driveshaft, though.)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:OHqgb.31495$xB4.9220@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0310061901.4bec7f13@posting.google.c om...
> > 1) What brand/model/whatever of SYE kit do you recommend? Does it
> > matter? This is with a stock 1997 TJ t-case.
>
> i used the black diamond kit that replaces the mainshaft. here is a write
> up of a similar install. http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> that said, if i had it to do over again i think i would use the RE "hack &
> tap" setup which is cheaper, much easier to install and regardless of
claims
> to the contrary, i believe it to be just as strong.
>
> > 2) I'm thinking about installing the SYE kit myself. I've never
> > cracked a t-case (or tranny or anything...) before, but I'm pretty
> > confident, and gutsy about attempting new challenges like this.
> > However, I want to make sure that if I choose to do this myself rather
> > than pay a shop, that I know what I'm getting myself into. So, please
> > let me know of any pitfalls or tips/tricks
>
> my install was fast and easy except for one part. keeping the oil pick up
> tube connected was a _bitch_ during reassembly. go with the "hack & tap"
> and be done with it. no point in making it harder than it has to be. i
> know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>

Re: slip yoke eliminator...brand? recommendations? install help?
 

The main advantage of the shaft replacement type is a stronger and shorter
output shaft.
Actually, the "hack and tap" system can work if you do it carefully. One
thing you don't want to do and that is to drill too deep. If you do, you
get into the narrow part of the shaft and really weaken it.
If you do the type of wheeling that breaks things, get the HD shaft
replacement type of SYE. Otherwise, the "hack and tap" system can save you
some bucks (you still have to get a new driveshaft, though.)

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98



"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:OHqgb.31495$xB4.9220@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0310061901.4bec7f13@posting.google.c om...
> > 1) What brand/model/whatever of SYE kit do you recommend? Does it
> > matter? This is with a stock 1997 TJ t-case.
>
> i used the black diamond kit that replaces the mainshaft. here is a write
> up of a similar install. http://7slotgrille.com/tech/sye2/index.html
> that said, if i had it to do over again i think i would use the RE "hack &
> tap" setup which is cheaper, much easier to install and regardless of
claims
> to the contrary, i believe it to be just as strong.
>
> > 2) I'm thinking about installing the SYE kit myself. I've never
> > cracked a t-case (or tranny or anything...) before, but I'm pretty
> > confident, and gutsy about attempting new challenges like this.
> > However, I want to make sure that if I choose to do this myself rather
> > than pay a shop, that I know what I'm getting myself into. So, please
> > let me know of any pitfalls or tips/tricks
>
> my install was fast and easy except for one part. keeping the oil pick up
> tube connected was a _bitch_ during reassembly. go with the "hack & tap"
> and be done with it. no point in making it harder than it has to be. i
> know of _no_ advantage to using the main shaft replacement system.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
>