Real Jeeps have open channel frames so we may use Real bolts like
the big boys do: http://www.----------.com/kenworthframe.jpg
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ouch!
>
> The spinner will likely need to be cut off so the nut can be pushed out
> of the way.
>
> If I had two snapped ones, I think I would be inclined to weld either a
> couple deep nuts or a couple bolt heads to the frame and use either
> short bolts for the welded nut or nuts for the welded on bolts. This
> would give me about a 3/8" skid plate drop that I could live with. In
> my case the drop might even be a good thing...
>
> I would do this for the cut and spun one too and then just use a spacer
> on the one bolt left.
>
> They do sell replacement 'nutserts' that require a hole to be fitted
> into. This could be a problem with the snapped off ones. The frame is
> likely too soft to punch out the old ones without bending something...
> 'My' frame would be too soft for that anyway.
>
> Mike

 

Real Jeeps have open channel frames so we may use Real bolts like
the big boys do: http://www.----------.com/kenworthframe.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ouch!
>
> The spinner will likely need to be cut off so the nut can be pushed out
> of the way.
>
> If I had two snapped ones, I think I would be inclined to weld either a
> couple deep nuts or a couple bolt heads to the frame and use either
> short bolts for the welded nut or nuts for the welded on bolts. This
> would give me about a 3/8" skid plate drop that I could live with. In
> my case the drop might even be a good thing...
>
> I would do this for the cut and spun one too and then just use a spacer
> on the one bolt left.
>
> They do sell replacement 'nutserts' that require a hole to be fitted
> into. This could be a problem with the snapped off ones. The frame is
> likely too soft to punch out the old ones without bending something...
> 'My' frame would be too soft for that anyway.
>
> Mike

 

Real Jeeps have open channel frames so we may use Real bolts like
the big boys do: http://www.----------.com/kenworthframe.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Ouch!
>
> The spinner will likely need to be cut off so the nut can be pushed out
> of the way.
>
> If I had two snapped ones, I think I would be inclined to weld either a
> couple deep nuts or a couple bolt heads to the frame and use either
> short bolts for the welded nut or nuts for the welded on bolts. This
> would give me about a 3/8" skid plate drop that I could live with. In
> my case the drop might even be a good thing...
>
> I would do this for the cut and spun one too and then just use a spacer
> on the one bolt left.
>
> They do sell replacement 'nutserts' that require a hole to be fitted
> into. This could be a problem with the snapped off ones. The frame is
> likely too soft to punch out the old ones without bending something...
> 'My' frame would be too soft for that anyway.
>
> Mike

 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Real Jeeps have open channel frames so we may use Real bolts like
> the big boys do: http://www.----------.com/kenworthframe.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

Yep, semi tractors make excellent off-road vehicles after all...

<Que bill posting ancient 1972 pictures of his sand rail wheeling>

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Real Jeeps have open channel frames so we may use Real bolts like
> the big boys do: http://www.----------.com/kenworthframe.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

Yep, semi tractors make excellent off-road vehicles after all...

<Que bill posting ancient 1972 pictures of his sand rail wheeling>

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Real Jeeps have open channel frames so we may use Real bolts like
> the big boys do: http://www.----------.com/kenworthframe.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O

Yep, semi tractors make excellent off-road vehicles after all...

<Que bill posting ancient 1972 pictures of his sand rail wheeling>

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

 

If I was welding the nuts onto a soft frame, I would first weld the nuts
onto a 1"x2"x1/8" plate, then weld the plate onto the frame.

I think you will fine the nuts are in too deep so you can't weld a nut
onto the snapped bolt.

Mike

Greg wrote:
>
> The owner said he was ok with welding on nuts, or even welding on bolts
> and using them like studs, I told him I would try what I did on my CJ frame,
> front spring hanger bolts snapped off, so I welded on a couple nuts, ( to
> the busted off bolts ) and that gave me something to unbolt and the heat
> from welding nut on freed up bolt stub, it's worth a try, but since his are
> busted off clean, it may not work. I don't like the idea of hanging
> skid/tranny/transfer off nuts welded onto exterior of frame, but as I said,
> he's ok with it. Will post the results and what we ended up doing, wont be
> for a week or so, he just receiveed his RE 4" lift, so will do all at same
> time.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43E37ECC.83BFE75F@sympatico.ca...
> > Ouch!
> >
> > The spinner will likely need to be cut off so the nut can be pushed out
> > of the way.
> >
> > If I had two snapped ones, I think I would be inclined to weld either a
> > couple deep nuts or a couple bolt heads to the frame and use either
> > short bolts for the welded nut or nuts for the welded on bolts. This
> > would give me about a 3/8" skid plate drop that I could live with. In
> > my case the drop might even be a good thing...
> >
> > I would do this for the cut and spun one too and then just use a spacer
> > on the one bolt left.
> >
> > They do sell replacement 'nutserts' that require a hole to be fitted
> > into. This could be a problem with the snapped off ones. The frame is
> > likely too soft to punch out the old ones without bending something...
> > 'My' frame would be too soft for that anyway.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Since I just helped a freind with an 89 YJ use a ***-a-long to hoist
> >> his
> >> skid plate/tranny up to get him out of trail, have you got any ideas as
> >> to
> >> how to fix the two bolts snapped off flush with frame and the 3rd one
> >> that
> >> pulled through skid plate and is now just spinning nut in frame?
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:43E29755.68A1260D@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Sure, it will snap the bolts off or spin the nutserts out really
> >> > well....
> >> >
> >> > I just see too many of the old ones up here in the rust belt and they
> >> > are very hard to get apart and hard to fix when things snap and spin
> >> > out.
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully you won't have those issues.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Joe C wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> 3/4" drive won't do it?
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:43E28EF4.3E52E44E@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > They are nutserts sort of welded to the inside of the frame.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you live in the rust belt, I would advise finding another way to
> >> >> > fix
> >> >> > the cat....
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Joe C wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I have to drop the large skid plate covering the tranny
> >> >> > > to do some exhaust work. Do the six large bolts go
> >> >> > > into the frame, or are there nuts and washers
> >> >> > > involved?
> >> >> > > Thanks,
> >> >> > > Joe

 

If I was welding the nuts onto a soft frame, I would first weld the nuts
onto a 1"x2"x1/8" plate, then weld the plate onto the frame.

I think you will fine the nuts are in too deep so you can't weld a nut
onto the snapped bolt.

Mike

Greg wrote:
>
> The owner said he was ok with welding on nuts, or even welding on bolts
> and using them like studs, I told him I would try what I did on my CJ frame,
> front spring hanger bolts snapped off, so I welded on a couple nuts, ( to
> the busted off bolts ) and that gave me something to unbolt and the heat
> from welding nut on freed up bolt stub, it's worth a try, but since his are
> busted off clean, it may not work. I don't like the idea of hanging
> skid/tranny/transfer off nuts welded onto exterior of frame, but as I said,
> he's ok with it. Will post the results and what we ended up doing, wont be
> for a week or so, he just receiveed his RE 4" lift, so will do all at same
> time.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43E37ECC.83BFE75F@sympatico.ca...
> > Ouch!
> >
> > The spinner will likely need to be cut off so the nut can be pushed out
> > of the way.
> >
> > If I had two snapped ones, I think I would be inclined to weld either a
> > couple deep nuts or a couple bolt heads to the frame and use either
> > short bolts for the welded nut or nuts for the welded on bolts. This
> > would give me about a 3/8" skid plate drop that I could live with. In
> > my case the drop might even be a good thing...
> >
> > I would do this for the cut and spun one too and then just use a spacer
> > on the one bolt left.
> >
> > They do sell replacement 'nutserts' that require a hole to be fitted
> > into. This could be a problem with the snapped off ones. The frame is
> > likely too soft to punch out the old ones without bending something...
> > 'My' frame would be too soft for that anyway.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Since I just helped a freind with an 89 YJ use a ***-a-long to hoist
> >> his
> >> skid plate/tranny up to get him out of trail, have you got any ideas as
> >> to
> >> how to fix the two bolts snapped off flush with frame and the 3rd one
> >> that
> >> pulled through skid plate and is now just spinning nut in frame?
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:43E29755.68A1260D@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Sure, it will snap the bolts off or spin the nutserts out really
> >> > well....
> >> >
> >> > I just see too many of the old ones up here in the rust belt and they
> >> > are very hard to get apart and hard to fix when things snap and spin
> >> > out.
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully you won't have those issues.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Joe C wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> 3/4" drive won't do it?
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:43E28EF4.3E52E44E@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > They are nutserts sort of welded to the inside of the frame.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you live in the rust belt, I would advise finding another way to
> >> >> > fix
> >> >> > the cat....
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Joe C wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I have to drop the large skid plate covering the tranny
> >> >> > > to do some exhaust work. Do the six large bolts go
> >> >> > > into the frame, or are there nuts and washers
> >> >> > > involved?
> >> >> > > Thanks,
> >> >> > > Joe

 

If I was welding the nuts onto a soft frame, I would first weld the nuts
onto a 1"x2"x1/8" plate, then weld the plate onto the frame.

I think you will fine the nuts are in too deep so you can't weld a nut
onto the snapped bolt.

Mike

Greg wrote:
>
> The owner said he was ok with welding on nuts, or even welding on bolts
> and using them like studs, I told him I would try what I did on my CJ frame,
> front spring hanger bolts snapped off, so I welded on a couple nuts, ( to
> the busted off bolts ) and that gave me something to unbolt and the heat
> from welding nut on freed up bolt stub, it's worth a try, but since his are
> busted off clean, it may not work. I don't like the idea of hanging
> skid/tranny/transfer off nuts welded onto exterior of frame, but as I said,
> he's ok with it. Will post the results and what we ended up doing, wont be
> for a week or so, he just receiveed his RE 4" lift, so will do all at same
> time.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43E37ECC.83BFE75F@sympatico.ca...
> > Ouch!
> >
> > The spinner will likely need to be cut off so the nut can be pushed out
> > of the way.
> >
> > If I had two snapped ones, I think I would be inclined to weld either a
> > couple deep nuts or a couple bolt heads to the frame and use either
> > short bolts for the welded nut or nuts for the welded on bolts. This
> > would give me about a 3/8" skid plate drop that I could live with. In
> > my case the drop might even be a good thing...
> >
> > I would do this for the cut and spun one too and then just use a spacer
> > on the one bolt left.
> >
> > They do sell replacement 'nutserts' that require a hole to be fitted
> > into. This could be a problem with the snapped off ones. The frame is
> > likely too soft to punch out the old ones without bending something...
> > 'My' frame would be too soft for that anyway.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Since I just helped a freind with an 89 YJ use a ***-a-long to hoist
> >> his
> >> skid plate/tranny up to get him out of trail, have you got any ideas as
> >> to
> >> how to fix the two bolts snapped off flush with frame and the 3rd one
> >> that
> >> pulled through skid plate and is now just spinning nut in frame?
> >>
> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:43E29755.68A1260D@sympatico.ca...
> >> > Sure, it will snap the bolts off or spin the nutserts out really
> >> > well....
> >> >
> >> > I just see too many of the old ones up here in the rust belt and they
> >> > are very hard to get apart and hard to fix when things snap and spin
> >> > out.
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully you won't have those issues.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Joe C wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> 3/4" drive won't do it?
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> >> news:43E28EF4.3E52E44E@sympatico.ca...
> >> >> > They are nutserts sort of welded to the inside of the frame.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you live in the rust belt, I would advise finding another way to
> >> >> > fix
> >> >> > the cat....
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike
> >> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Joe C wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I have to drop the large skid plate covering the tranny
> >> >> > > to do some exhaust work. Do the six large bolts go
> >> >> > > into the frame, or are there nuts and washers
> >> >> > > involved?
> >> >> > > Thanks,
> >> >> > > Joe

 

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God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> Yep, semi tractors make excellent off-road vehicles after all...
>
> <Que bill posting ancient 1972 pictures of his sand rail wheeling>
>
> --
> Simon