Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:02:40 GMT, Anthony Page wrote:
> Hi, I'm very new to Jeeps but I want to own one, I have a few questions
> though. I was at the Jeep wrangler website and saw that some of the models
> had cloth for the side window and frame, can these cloth sides be folded
> down?

The windows on the half-doors can be completely removed -- the video
that comes with the owners manual shows that the canvas and vinyl is
attached to a wire frame that sits on top of the door. The window
can also be unzipped, like the rear windows, while the frame is still
on the door.

> Can the models with the metal frame and glass window sides also be
> folded down?

No. The window does roll down just like any other vehicle with a
frame around the window.


The doors are interchangeable, so if you change your mind later you
can buy a pair of the other style door and switch them. Note that
rolling down the window on the full door isn't the same as removing
the window on the half-door: the full door is cut higher and the
window frame is sill there.

> Do any of the Jeeps models come with automatic gear shift? Or
> are they all manual?

The automatic is an $800 option. I like my 6-speed :-).

> Is it easy to put the front window down?

According to the manual, you simply remove the wiper arms (no tools
needed, just slide a clip) then remove two torx bolts. A strap is
provided to secure the windshield to the hood.

I fully intend to lower my windshield when summer comes around!
(I bought mine this winter)

> what speeds
> can you safely drive with the front window down?

Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.

The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
built-in simplicity of design.

-D

--
UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
-- Dennis Ritchie

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:02:40 GMT, Anthony Page wrote:
> Hi, I'm very new to Jeeps but I want to own one, I have a few questions
> though. I was at the Jeep wrangler website and saw that some of the models
> had cloth for the side window and frame, can these cloth sides be folded
> down?

The windows on the half-doors can be completely removed -- the video
that comes with the owners manual shows that the canvas and vinyl is
attached to a wire frame that sits on top of the door. The window
can also be unzipped, like the rear windows, while the frame is still
on the door.

> Can the models with the metal frame and glass window sides also be
> folded down?

No. The window does roll down just like any other vehicle with a
frame around the window.


The doors are interchangeable, so if you change your mind later you
can buy a pair of the other style door and switch them. Note that
rolling down the window on the full door isn't the same as removing
the window on the half-door: the full door is cut higher and the
window frame is sill there.

> Do any of the Jeeps models come with automatic gear shift? Or
> are they all manual?

The automatic is an $800 option. I like my 6-speed :-).

> Is it easy to put the front window down?

According to the manual, you simply remove the wiper arms (no tools
needed, just slide a clip) then remove two torx bolts. A strap is
provided to secure the windshield to the hood.

I fully intend to lower my windshield when summer comes around!
(I bought mine this winter)

> what speeds
> can you safely drive with the front window down?

Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.

The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
built-in simplicity of design.

-D

--
UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
-- Dennis Ritchie

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 03:02:40 GMT, Anthony Page wrote:
> Hi, I'm very new to Jeeps but I want to own one, I have a few questions
> though. I was at the Jeep wrangler website and saw that some of the models
> had cloth for the side window and frame, can these cloth sides be folded
> down?

The windows on the half-doors can be completely removed -- the video
that comes with the owners manual shows that the canvas and vinyl is
attached to a wire frame that sits on top of the door. The window
can also be unzipped, like the rear windows, while the frame is still
on the door.

> Can the models with the metal frame and glass window sides also be
> folded down?

No. The window does roll down just like any other vehicle with a
frame around the window.


The doors are interchangeable, so if you change your mind later you
can buy a pair of the other style door and switch them. Note that
rolling down the window on the full door isn't the same as removing
the window on the half-door: the full door is cut higher and the
window frame is sill there.

> Do any of the Jeeps models come with automatic gear shift? Or
> are they all manual?

The automatic is an $800 option. I like my 6-speed :-).

> Is it easy to put the front window down?

According to the manual, you simply remove the wiper arms (no tools
needed, just slide a clip) then remove two torx bolts. A strap is
provided to secure the windshield to the hood.

I fully intend to lower my windshield when summer comes around!
(I bought mine this winter)

> what speeds
> can you safely drive with the front window down?

Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.

The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
built-in simplicity of design.

-D

--
UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
-- Dennis Ritchie

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

The air is so compressed running over the hood, I can hardly
breath. Nothing like folding my little '55 Austin Healy windshield down.
Like: http://www.reviewjournal.com/auto/ne.../25158627.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Derrick Hudson wrote:
><snip>
>
> Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
> it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
> roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.
>
> The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
> built-in simplicity of design.
>
> -D
>
> --
> UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
> but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
> -- Dennis Ritchie
>
> www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

The air is so compressed running over the hood, I can hardly
breath. Nothing like folding my little '55 Austin Healy windshield down.
Like: http://www.reviewjournal.com/auto/ne.../25158627.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Derrick Hudson wrote:
><snip>
>
> Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
> it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
> roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.
>
> The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
> built-in simplicity of design.
>
> -D
>
> --
> UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
> but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
> -- Dennis Ritchie
>
> www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

The air is so compressed running over the hood, I can hardly
breath. Nothing like folding my little '55 Austin Healy windshield down.
Like: http://www.reviewjournal.com/auto/ne.../25158627.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Derrick Hudson wrote:
><snip>
>
> Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
> it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
> roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.
>
> The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
> built-in simplicity of design.
>
> -D
>
> --
> UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
> but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
> -- Dennis Ritchie
>
> www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

never had you down as an Austin Healey man, Bill. What model did you have ?
They cost a fortune now.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4203C365.86931627@cox.net...
> The air is so compressed running over the hood, I can hardly
> breath. Nothing like folding my little '55 Austin Healy windshield down.
> Like: http://www.reviewjournal.com/auto/ne.../25158627.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
> ><snip>
> >
> > Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
> > it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
> > roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.
> >
> > The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
> > built-in simplicity of design.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > --
> > UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
> > but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
> > -- Dennis Ritchie
> >
> > www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber:
dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

never had you down as an Austin Healey man, Bill. What model did you have ?
They cost a fortune now.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4203C365.86931627@cox.net...
> The air is so compressed running over the hood, I can hardly
> breath. Nothing like folding my little '55 Austin Healy windshield down.
> Like: http://www.reviewjournal.com/auto/ne.../25158627.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
> ><snip>
> >
> > Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
> > it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
> > roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.
> >
> > The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
> > built-in simplicity of design.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > --
> > UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
> > but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
> > -- Dennis Ritchie
> >
> > www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber:
dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

never had you down as an Austin Healey man, Bill. What model did you have ?
They cost a fortune now.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4203C365.86931627@cox.net...
> The air is so compressed running over the hood, I can hardly
> breath. Nothing like folding my little '55 Austin Healy windshield down.
> Like: http://www.reviewjournal.com/auto/ne.../25158627.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Derrick Hudson wrote:
> ><snip>
> >
> > Low speeds! The manual says something like 20 mph, IIRC. I suppose
> > it wouldn't be a bad idea to wear the goggles they used to wear with
> > roadsters back in the 20's, or at least have sunglasses on.
> >
> > The Wrangler is a fun vehicle to drive with plenty of options and
> > built-in simplicity of design.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > --
> > UNIX is basically a simple operating system,
> > but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity.
> > -- Dennis Ritchie
> >
> > www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber:
dman@dman13.dyndns.org

Re: Side Windows in Jeep Wangler
 

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4202F2FB.6E7D782D@cox.net...
> I drive with my Civilian Jeep's windshield down along our
> California coast highway, where the speed limit is twenty five. Any
> speed faster is very uncomfortable, many times worst than a motorcycle.

It is illegal in California to drive with the windshield down. The law is
very clear on this.