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Special Ops 10-30-2004 05:30 AM

Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
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Dave Milne 10-30-2004 06:00 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Well done, Dennis !

Out of interest, one bit puzzles me:
Judge Dowd delivered a victory to both parties in May when he ordered Ewald
to stop using trademarked Jeep parts on his cargo trailers .. and, based on
a precedent called nominative fair use, Judge Dowd granted Ewald the right
to continue to advertise his trailers as "built with authentic new Jeep
parts"

So is that saying you could build it with Jeep bits as long as those parts
don't say "Jeep" on them ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

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Dave Milne 10-30-2004 06:00 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Well done, Dennis !

Out of interest, one bit puzzles me:
Judge Dowd delivered a victory to both parties in May when he ordered Ewald
to stop using trademarked Jeep parts on his cargo trailers .. and, based on
a precedent called nominative fair use, Judge Dowd granted Ewald the right
to continue to advertise his trailers as "built with authentic new Jeep
parts"

So is that saying you could build it with Jeep bits as long as those parts
don't say "Jeep" on them ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

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Dave Milne 10-30-2004 06:00 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Well done, Dennis !

Out of interest, one bit puzzles me:
Judge Dowd delivered a victory to both parties in May when he ordered Ewald
to stop using trademarked Jeep parts on his cargo trailers .. and, based on
a precedent called nominative fair use, Judge Dowd granted Ewald the right
to continue to advertise his trailers as "built with authentic new Jeep
parts"

So is that saying you could build it with Jeep bits as long as those parts
don't say "Jeep" on them ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

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mabar 10-30-2004 08:16 AM

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Nathan, where are you?


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Nathan, where are you?


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Nathan, where are you?


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Snow 10-30-2004 08:55 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Woohooo a victory for the little guy, ok partial victory, but a victory none
the less. It's about time some one stood up to those DC NAZI's. (for the
DC spies reading this "eat my shorts" -Bart Simpson). Too bad he didn't
keep the right to use the Rubicon name or at the very least have both trade
marks tossed out on the basis that DC doesn't own the Rubicon Trail (neither
did Denis) and force both parties to re-name their products.


Snow ...

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Snow 10-30-2004 08:55 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Woohooo a victory for the little guy, ok partial victory, but a victory none
the less. It's about time some one stood up to those DC NAZI's. (for the
DC spies reading this "eat my shorts" -Bart Simpson). Too bad he didn't
keep the right to use the Rubicon name or at the very least have both trade
marks tossed out on the basis that DC doesn't own the Rubicon Trail (neither
did Denis) and force both parties to re-name their products.


Snow ...

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Snow 10-30-2004 08:55 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Woohooo a victory for the little guy, ok partial victory, but a victory none
the less. It's about time some one stood up to those DC NAZI's. (for the
DC spies reading this "eat my shorts" -Bart Simpson). Too bad he didn't
keep the right to use the Rubicon name or at the very least have both trade
marks tossed out on the basis that DC doesn't own the Rubicon Trail (neither
did Denis) and force both parties to re-name their products.


Snow ...

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twaldron 10-30-2004 09:07 AM

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Kick his ass, Seabass! Nice job Dennis!

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01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
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twaldron 10-30-2004 09:07 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Kick his ass, Seabass! Nice job Dennis!

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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 10-30-2004 09:07 AM

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Kick his ass, Seabass! Nice job Dennis!

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01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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DougW 10-30-2004 09:26 AM

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Heh.

The key in there is Dennis had the rights to the "Rubicon (tm)".
Just think what DC had to pay him for that. And rightfully too.

Way to go Dennis!

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DougW 10-30-2004 09:26 AM

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Heh.

The key in there is Dennis had the rights to the "Rubicon (tm)".
Just think what DC had to pay him for that. And rightfully too.

Way to go Dennis!

--
DougW



DougW 10-30-2004 09:26 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
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Heh.

The key in there is Dennis had the rights to the "Rubicon (tm)".
Just think what DC had to pay him for that. And rightfully too.

Way to go Dennis!

--
DougW



Special Ops 10-30-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
D.J.




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Special Ops 10-30-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
D.J.




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Special Ops 10-30-2004 10:28 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
D.J.




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Matt Macchiarolo 10-30-2004 10:53 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
My only regret is that I won't be able to drive down to Toledo anymore and
pick one up when the time comes. Best of luck to you in AZ, Dennis, and let
us know when your move is complete and your AZ operation is in production.

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> Heh.
>
> The key in there is Dennis had the rights to the "Rubicon (tm)".
> Just think what DC had to pay him for that. And rightfully too.
>
> Way to go Dennis!
>
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> DougW
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Matt Macchiarolo 10-30-2004 10:53 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
My only regret is that I won't be able to drive down to Toledo anymore and
pick one up when the time comes. Best of luck to you in AZ, Dennis, and let
us know when your move is complete and your AZ operation is in production.

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> Heh.
>
> The key in there is Dennis had the rights to the "Rubicon (tm)".
> Just think what DC had to pay him for that. And rightfully too.
>
> Way to go Dennis!
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 10-30-2004 10:53 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
My only regret is that I won't be able to drive down to Toledo anymore and
pick one up when the time comes. Best of luck to you in AZ, Dennis, and let
us know when your move is complete and your AZ operation is in production.

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> Heh.
>
> The key in there is Dennis had the rights to the "Rubicon (tm)".
> Just think what DC had to pay him for that. And rightfully too.
>
> Way to go Dennis!
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




RocknTJ 10-30-2004 11:50 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 

This is great news. I am very happy for you and yours. I have been wondering
how things were going on this. Even though I only know you through cyber
space, I feel like your friend and have been pulling for you the entire
time.
When I get my junk repaired and if you are back in AZ please look me up
through the Az Virtual Jeep Club. I would love to go wheeling with you and
buy you a cold beverage.

Regards,
--JamesT


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RocknTJ 10-30-2004 11:50 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 

This is great news. I am very happy for you and yours. I have been wondering
how things were going on this. Even though I only know you through cyber
space, I feel like your friend and have been pulling for you the entire
time.
When I get my junk repaired and if you are back in AZ please look me up
through the Az Virtual Jeep Club. I would love to go wheeling with you and
buy you a cold beverage.

Regards,
--JamesT


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RocknTJ 10-30-2004 11:50 AM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 

This is great news. I am very happy for you and yours. I have been wondering
how things were going on this. Even though I only know you through cyber
space, I feel like your friend and have been pulling for you the entire
time.
When I get my junk repaired and if you are back in AZ please look me up
through the Az Virtual Jeep Club. I would love to go wheeling with you and
buy you a cold beverage.

Regards,
--JamesT


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Jerry Bransford 10-30-2004 12:20 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Congrats! :)

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> Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
> of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
> could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
> Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
> CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
> However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
> by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
> supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
> that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
> tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
> then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
> That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
> trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
> hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
> The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
> lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
> are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
> don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
> D.J.
>
>
>
>
> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>




Jerry Bransford 10-30-2004 12:20 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Congrats! :)

Jerry
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> Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
> of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
> could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
> Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
> CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
> However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
> by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
> supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
> that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
> tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
> then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
> That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
> trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
> hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
> The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
> lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
> are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
> don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
> D.J.
>
>
>
>
> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>




Jerry Bransford 10-30-2004 12:20 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Congrats! :)

Jerry
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PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
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> Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
> of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
> could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
> Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
> CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
> However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
> by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
> supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
> that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
> tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
> then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
> That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
> trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
> hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
> The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
> lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
> are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
> don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
> D.J.
>
>
>
>
> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>




Mike Romain 10-30-2004 12:33 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Well done!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Special Ops wrote:
>
> Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
> of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
> could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
> Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
> CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
> However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
> by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
> supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
> that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
> tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
> then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
> That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
> trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
> hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
> The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
> lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
> are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
> don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
> D.J.
>
>
>
> www.SpecialOps4x4.com


Mike Romain 10-30-2004 12:33 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Well done!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Special Ops wrote:
>
> Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
> of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
> could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
> Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
> CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
> However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
> by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
> supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
> that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
> tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
> then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
> That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
> trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
> hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
> The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
> lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
> are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
> don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
> D.J.
>
>
>
> www.SpecialOps4x4.com


Mike Romain 10-30-2004 12:33 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Well done!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Special Ops wrote:
>
> Dave --- The reporter misunderstood the May ruling. D.C. lost on all
> of their motions in that ruling, except one. The judge ruled that I
> could no longer use NOS CJ-7 tailgates, which I was obtaining from
> Willys Overland Motors Inc., here in Toledo. Those tailgates (for
> CJ-7's), which had been manufactured by Chrysler, said Jeep on them.
> However, he did not prohibit me from using other tailgates manufactured
> by Jeep, or anyone else, which did not say Jeep on them. Since that
> supply of tailgates had been depleted, and there are no more of them,
> that I know of, it was a hollow victory for D.C. I could no longer use
> tailgates which I could no longer get, anyway. So what? --- The judge
> then ruled against D.C. on all of their motions for summary judgement.
> That left D.C. out of ammo with nothing standing between them and a jury
> trial. And, there was no way they wanted to face a jury. I, on the other
> hand, was still fully loaded with more ammo than Carter has liver pills.
> The May ruling was a resounding defeat for D.C. Even the arrogant D.C.
> lawyers, from Atlanta, could see the writing on the wall. --- So, you
> are correct, Dave. I can still use new Jeep parts, just as long as they
> don't say Jeep on them. --- Thank you for your interest. --- Regards ---
> D.J.
>
>
>
> www.SpecialOps4x4.com


RocknTJ 10-30-2004 12:52 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 

I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when he
hears the news.
I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.

--James

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
> Nathan, where are you?
>
>
> "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
>> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>>

>
>




RocknTJ 10-30-2004 12:52 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 

I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when he
hears the news.
I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.

--James

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
> Nathan, where are you?
>
>
> "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
>> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>>

>
>




RocknTJ 10-30-2004 12:52 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 

I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when he
hears the news.
I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.

--James

"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
> Nathan, where are you?
>
>
> "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
>> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>>

>
>




Jerry Bransford 10-30-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
True but he was also posting ---- pics on his site that used Jeep's name in
the URL. I would have sued him too if I were Jeep.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:pZydncLXW8fVQB7cRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps, but the facts of Nate's case were completely different, and he
> never got real legal advice.
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:6FPgd.192755$a85.36858@fed1read04...
>>
>> I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when
>> he
>> hears the news.
>> I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.
>>
>> --James
>>
>> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
>> news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
>> > Nathan, where are you?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> > news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
>> >> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>




Jerry Bransford 10-30-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
True but he was also posting ---- pics on his site that used Jeep's name in
the URL. I would have sued him too if I were Jeep.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:pZydncLXW8fVQB7cRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps, but the facts of Nate's case were completely different, and he
> never got real legal advice.
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:6FPgd.192755$a85.36858@fed1read04...
>>
>> I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when
>> he
>> hears the news.
>> I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.
>>
>> --James
>>
>> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
>> news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
>> > Nathan, where are you?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> > news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
>> >> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>




Jerry Bransford 10-30-2004 02:34 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
True but he was also posting ---- pics on his site that used Jeep's name in
the URL. I would have sued him too if I were Jeep.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:pZydncLXW8fVQB7cRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Perhaps, but the facts of Nate's case were completely different, and he
> never got real legal advice.
>
> "RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:6FPgd.192755$a85.36858@fed1read04...
>>
>> I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when
>> he
>> hears the news.
>> I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.
>>
>> --James
>>
>> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
>> news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
>> > Nathan, where are you?
>> >
>> >
>> > "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> > news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
>> >> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 10-30-2004 02:37 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Perhaps, but the facts of Nate's case were completely different, and he
never got real legal advice.

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6FPgd.192755$a85.36858@fed1read04...
>
> I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when he
> hears the news.
> I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.
>
> --James
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
> > Nathan, where are you?
> >
> >
> > "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> >> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
> >>

> >
> >

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 10-30-2004 02:37 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Perhaps, but the facts of Nate's case were completely different, and he
never got real legal advice.

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6FPgd.192755$a85.36858@fed1read04...
>
> I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when he
> hears the news.
> I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.
>
> --James
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
> > Nathan, where are you?
> >
> >
> > "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> >> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
> >>

> >
> >

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 10-30-2004 02:37 PM

Re: Showdown on the Rubicon (outcome)
 
Perhaps, but the facts of Nate's case were completely different, and he
never got real legal advice.

"RocknTJ" <jetowle@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6FPgd.192755$a85.36858@fed1read04...
>
> I posted it on his board. I am sure he will be grinning ear-to-ear when he
> hears the news.
> I still think DC should have paid Nate for rubicon.com.
>
> --James
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:vsOdnehM7c-oGx7cRVn-3g@gbronline.com...
> > Nathan, where are you?
> >
> >
> > "Special Ops" <SpecialOps4x4@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:17724-41835F40-9@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> >> FYI ==> http://www.presspublications.com/pag...mstories02.asp
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> www.SpecialOps4x4.com
> >>

> >
> >

>
>





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