Mort

Which tires do you have? I'm interested in the BFG AT's over the Mud
Terrains because the AT's are "Severe Snow Rated" and everybody I've
talked to said they were great in the snow. I know the difference
between my crappy all terrain generic tires aren't nearly as good in the
snow as the Goodyear AT's on my girlfriends XJ and they aren't supposed
to be anywhere near as good as the BFG AT's. For those who are running
BFG AT's in a snowy climate how do you like them?

Mort

bowgus wrote:
> Well ... my 96 XJ does not function well at all in snow with my 235s. It's
> way too light and tends to float ... the 225s snows work much better. And
> when they're done, I'll likely go even narrower with the snows.
>
> "Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:PT67b.732$Gr.16536@read1.cgocable.net...
>
>>Thanks for the help. I think I'm going to go with the 30's as long as
>>they aren't too expensive.
>>
>>Mort
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>jm wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm planning on purchasing a set of BFG At's before the snow falls.
>>>>I've been planning on getting 235/75/15 but my friend says I should go
>>>>with 30's. I've got a 00 XJ with a 4.0 and auto. I'm pretty sure the
>>>>rear end is 3.73
>>>>3 questions:
>>>>1. Will I notice much of a difference in fuel economy going from the
>>>>225's to the 30's?
>>>
>>> I made a similar upgrade in my ZJ and I lost about one mpg. I thought
>>>it would go up because the larger diameter, but the more aggresive tread
>>>pattern countered that. It depends on how aggressive yout current tires
>>>are.
>>>
>>>
>>>>2. Can I still use my original spare if I go with 235 or 30? I know I
>>>>should have a full size spare but I don't do much offroading and right
>>>>now I can't afford an extra tire.
>>>
>>>It's always best to have the same exact diameter tire on. I drove my ZJ
>>>once with the smaller spare, a 235, with the rest 30s and I could feel a
>>>vibration pick up around 60 mph and it pulled heavily to that one side.
>>>It can really damage your diffs if you have too great a tiresize
>>>differential.
>>>
>>>
>>>>3. Can I fit one of the above sizes, on a steel rim in the stock spare
>>>>location, inside the back or will I need to mount it on the exterior?
>>>
>>>If you're wheels are 15x7 which they most likely are, you can go as high
>>>as 31x10 and still fit the wheel. As far as in stock location for the
>>>spare, I don't think I could fit more than a 30 in my XJ which is the
>>>biggest tire you are considering. I just got my XJ and it cam with
>>>215/70s on it! I plan on upgrading those as soon as possible. I think
>>>they're soo small that the speedo reads faster than I'm actually going.
>>>lol Anyway, good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>>Mort
>>>>
>>>
>
>

Jerry Bransford

For a snowy climate where you're driving on snow-covered roads, you do NOT
want a wide tire so I can't recommend a real favorite tire of mine, the BFG
AT. The narrower the tire is on snow-covered roads, the better... to a
point.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

"Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
news:fDa7b.979$Gr.27463@read1.cgocable.net...
> Which tires do you have? I'm interested in the BFG AT's over the Mud
> Terrains because the AT's are "Severe Snow Rated" and everybody I've
> talked to said they were great in the snow. I know the difference
> between my crappy all terrain generic tires aren't nearly as good in the
> snow as the Goodyear AT's on my girlfriends XJ and they aren't supposed
> to be anywhere near as good as the BFG AT's. For those who are running
> BFG AT's in a snowy climate how do you like them?
>
> Mort
>
> bowgus wrote:
> > Well ... my 96 XJ does not function well at all in snow with my 235s.
It's
> > way too light and tends to float ... the 225s snows work much better.
And
> > when they're done, I'll likely go even narrower with the snows.
> >
> > "Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
> > news:PT67b.732$Gr.16536@read1.cgocable.net...
> >
> >>Thanks for the help. I think I'm going to go with the 30's as long as
> >>they aren't too expensive.
> >>
> >>Mort
> >>
> >>Eric wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>jm wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm planning on purchasing a set of BFG At's before the snow falls.
> >>>>I've been planning on getting 235/75/15 but my friend says I should go
> >>>>with 30's. I've got a 00 XJ with a 4.0 and auto. I'm pretty sure the
> >>>>rear end is 3.73
> >>>>3 questions:
> >>>>1. Will I notice much of a difference in fuel economy going from the
> >>>>225's to the 30's?
> >>>
> >>> I made a similar upgrade in my ZJ and I lost about one mpg. I thought
> >>>it would go up because the larger diameter, but the more aggresive
tread
> >>>pattern countered that. It depends on how aggressive yout current tires
> >>>are.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>2. Can I still use my original spare if I go with 235 or 30? I know I
> >>>>should have a full size spare but I don't do much offroading and right
> >>>>now I can't afford an extra tire.
> >>>
> >>>It's always best to have the same exact diameter tire on. I drove my ZJ
> >>>once with the smaller spare, a 235, with the rest 30s and I could feel
a
> >>>vibration pick up around 60 mph and it pulled heavily to that one side.
> >>>It can really damage your diffs if you have too great a tiresize
> >>>differential.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>3. Can I fit one of the above sizes, on a steel rim in the stock spare
> >>>>location, inside the back or will I need to mount it on the exterior?
> >>>
> >>>If you're wheels are 15x7 which they most likely are, you can go as
high
> >>>as 31x10 and still fit the wheel. As far as in stock location for the
> >>>spare, I don't think I could fit more than a 30 in my XJ which is the
> >>>biggest tire you are considering. I just got my XJ and it cam with
> >>>215/70s on it! I plan on upgrading those as soon as possible. I think
> >>>they're soo small that the speedo reads faster than I'm actually going.
> >>>lol Anyway, good luck!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks in advance
> >>>>
> >>>>Mort
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>

Jerry Bransford

For a snowy climate where you're driving on snow-covered roads, you do NOT
want a wide tire so I can't recommend a real favorite tire of mine, the BFG
AT. The narrower the tire is on snow-covered roads, the better... to a
point.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

"Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
news:fDa7b.979$Gr.27463@read1.cgocable.net...
> Which tires do you have? I'm interested in the BFG AT's over the Mud
> Terrains because the AT's are "Severe Snow Rated" and everybody I've
> talked to said they were great in the snow. I know the difference
> between my crappy all terrain generic tires aren't nearly as good in the
> snow as the Goodyear AT's on my girlfriends XJ and they aren't supposed
> to be anywhere near as good as the BFG AT's. For those who are running
> BFG AT's in a snowy climate how do you like them?
>
> Mort
>
> bowgus wrote:
> > Well ... my 96 XJ does not function well at all in snow with my 235s.
It's
> > way too light and tends to float ... the 225s snows work much better.
And
> > when they're done, I'll likely go even narrower with the snows.
> >
> > "Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
> > news:PT67b.732$Gr.16536@read1.cgocable.net...
> >
> >>Thanks for the help. I think I'm going to go with the 30's as long as
> >>they aren't too expensive.
> >>
> >>Mort
> >>
> >>Eric wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>jm wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I'm planning on purchasing a set of BFG At's before the snow falls.
> >>>>I've been planning on getting 235/75/15 but my friend says I should go
> >>>>with 30's. I've got a 00 XJ with a 4.0 and auto. I'm pretty sure the
> >>>>rear end is 3.73
> >>>>3 questions:
> >>>>1. Will I notice much of a difference in fuel economy going from the
> >>>>225's to the 30's?
> >>>
> >>> I made a similar upgrade in my ZJ and I lost about one mpg. I thought
> >>>it would go up because the larger diameter, but the more aggresive
tread
> >>>pattern countered that. It depends on how aggressive yout current tires
> >>>are.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>2. Can I still use my original spare if I go with 235 or 30? I know I
> >>>>should have a full size spare but I don't do much offroading and right
> >>>>now I can't afford an extra tire.
> >>>
> >>>It's always best to have the same exact diameter tire on. I drove my ZJ
> >>>once with the smaller spare, a 235, with the rest 30s and I could feel
a
> >>>vibration pick up around 60 mph and it pulled heavily to that one side.
> >>>It can really damage your diffs if you have too great a tiresize
> >>>differential.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>3. Can I fit one of the above sizes, on a steel rim in the stock spare
> >>>>location, inside the back or will I need to mount it on the exterior?
> >>>
> >>>If you're wheels are 15x7 which they most likely are, you can go as
high
> >>>as 31x10 and still fit the wheel. As far as in stock location for the
> >>>spare, I don't think I could fit more than a 30 in my XJ which is the
> >>>biggest tire you are considering. I just got my XJ and it cam with
> >>>215/70s on it! I plan on upgrading those as soon as possible. I think
> >>>they're soo small that the speedo reads faster than I'm actually going.
> >>>lol Anyway, good luck!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks in advance
> >>>>
> >>>>Mort
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>

Ace!

Jerry, the BFG AT is "severe" snow rated, which is found in almost no other true all-terrain tire.
Go ahead and recommend it. I doubt there is a better tire for the snow that will be worth anything
off road the other parts of the year. Not saying the BFG AT is the end-all, be-all tire offroad
(hardly). BUT, if you want a tire for the snow that will go most everywhere else, it's hard to
beat.

BTW, if you're not familiar with the severe snow rating, its designation is used on true snow tires
(a mountain with a snowflake is the symbol). It also allows you to pass through some snow areas
without chains or studs, depending on the snow zone and restrictions. Having a tire with the
designation is considered a "traction control device" (defined as chains, studs or tires with the
severe rating by my state statutes). It is very different than the M&S rating on most tires, and
reserved for snow tires (most other tires with the designation are "car" tires that are considered
"snow" tires only).

To the original poster, the 30" BFG AT *should* fit, especially if you have the UpCountry suspension
package (1" taller springs). I would opt for the 235/75/15 size if you don't have the UpCountry
package. I have 30" BFG ATs on my XJ, but it's got the UpCountry package. The 30" tire is d*mned
near perfect on the XJ.

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> For a snowy climate where you're driving on snow-covered roads, you do NOT
> want a wide tire so I can't recommend a real favorite tire of mine, the BFG
> AT. The narrower the tire is on snow-covered roads, the better... to a
> point.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:fDa7b.979$Gr.27463@read1.cgocable.net...
> > Which tires do you have? I'm interested in the BFG AT's over the Mud
> > Terrains because the AT's are "Severe Snow Rated" and everybody I've
> > talked to said they were great in the snow. I know the difference
> > between my crappy all terrain generic tires aren't nearly as good in the
> > snow as the Goodyear AT's on my girlfriends XJ and they aren't supposed
> > to be anywhere near as good as the BFG AT's. For those who are running
> > BFG AT's in a snowy climate how do you like them?
> >
> > Mort
> >
> > bowgus wrote:
> > > Well ... my 96 XJ does not function well at all in snow with my 235s.
> It's
> > > way too light and tends to float ... the 225s snows work much better.
> And
> > > when they're done, I'll likely go even narrower with the snows.
> > >
> > > "Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
> > > news:PT67b.732$Gr.16536@read1.cgocable.net...
> > >
> > >>Thanks for the help. I think I'm going to go with the 30's as long as
> > >>they aren't too expensive.
> > >>
> > >>Mort
> > >>
> > >>Eric wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>jm wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>I'm planning on purchasing a set of BFG At's before the snow falls.
> > >>>>I've been planning on getting 235/75/15 but my friend says I should go
> > >>>>with 30's. I've got a 00 XJ with a 4.0 and auto. I'm pretty sure the
> > >>>>rear end is 3.73
> > >>>>3 questions:
> > >>>>1. Will I notice much of a difference in fuel economy going from the
> > >>>>225's to the 30's?
> > >>>
> > >>> I made a similar upgrade in my ZJ and I lost about one mpg. I thought
> > >>>it would go up because the larger diameter, but the more aggresive
> tread
> > >>>pattern countered that. It depends on how aggressive yout current tires
> > >>>are.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>2. Can I still use my original spare if I go with 235 or 30? I know I
> > >>>>should have a full size spare but I don't do much offroading and right
> > >>>>now I can't afford an extra tire.
> > >>>
> > >>>It's always best to have the same exact diameter tire on. I drove my ZJ
> > >>>once with the smaller spare, a 235, with the rest 30s and I could feel
> a
> > >>>vibration pick up around 60 mph and it pulled heavily to that one side.
> > >>>It can really damage your diffs if you have too great a tiresize
> > >>>differential.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>3. Can I fit one of the above sizes, on a steel rim in the stock spare
> > >>>>location, inside the back or will I need to mount it on the exterior?
> > >>>
> > >>>If you're wheels are 15x7 which they most likely are, you can go as
> high
> > >>>as 31x10 and still fit the wheel. As far as in stock location for the
> > >>>spare, I don't think I could fit more than a 30 in my XJ which is the
> > >>>biggest tire you are considering. I just got my XJ and it cam with
> > >>>215/70s on it! I plan on upgrading those as soon as possible. I think
> > >>>they're soo small that the speedo reads faster than I'm actually going.
> > >>>lol Anyway, good luck!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Thanks in advance
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Mort
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> >

Ace!

Jerry, the BFG AT is "severe" snow rated, which is found in almost no other true all-terrain tire.
Go ahead and recommend it. I doubt there is a better tire for the snow that will be worth anything
off road the other parts of the year. Not saying the BFG AT is the end-all, be-all tire offroad
(hardly). BUT, if you want a tire for the snow that will go most everywhere else, it's hard to
beat.

BTW, if you're not familiar with the severe snow rating, its designation is used on true snow tires
(a mountain with a snowflake is the symbol). It also allows you to pass through some snow areas
without chains or studs, depending on the snow zone and restrictions. Having a tire with the
designation is considered a "traction control device" (defined as chains, studs or tires with the
severe rating by my state statutes). It is very different than the M&S rating on most tires, and
reserved for snow tires (most other tires with the designation are "car" tires that are considered
"snow" tires only).

To the original poster, the 30" BFG AT *should* fit, especially if you have the UpCountry suspension
package (1" taller springs). I would opt for the 235/75/15 size if you don't have the UpCountry
package. I have 30" BFG ATs on my XJ, but it's got the UpCountry package. The 30" tire is d*mned
near perfect on the XJ.

Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> For a snowy climate where you're driving on snow-covered roads, you do NOT
> want a wide tire so I can't recommend a real favorite tire of mine, the BFG
> AT. The narrower the tire is on snow-covered roads, the better... to a
> point.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:fDa7b.979$Gr.27463@read1.cgocable.net...
> > Which tires do you have? I'm interested in the BFG AT's over the Mud
> > Terrains because the AT's are "Severe Snow Rated" and everybody I've
> > talked to said they were great in the snow. I know the difference
> > between my crappy all terrain generic tires aren't nearly as good in the
> > snow as the Goodyear AT's on my girlfriends XJ and they aren't supposed
> > to be anywhere near as good as the BFG AT's. For those who are running
> > BFG AT's in a snowy climate how do you like them?
> >
> > Mort
> >
> > bowgus wrote:
> > > Well ... my 96 XJ does not function well at all in snow with my 235s.
> It's
> > > way too light and tends to float ... the 225s snows work much better.
> And
> > > when they're done, I'll likely go even narrower with the snows.
> > >
> > > "Mort" <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in message
> > > news:PT67b.732$Gr.16536@read1.cgocable.net...
> > >
> > >>Thanks for the help. I think I'm going to go with the 30's as long as
> > >>they aren't too expensive.
> > >>
> > >>Mort
> > >>
> > >>Eric wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>jm wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>I'm planning on purchasing a set of BFG At's before the snow falls.
> > >>>>I've been planning on getting 235/75/15 but my friend says I should go
> > >>>>with 30's. I've got a 00 XJ with a 4.0 and auto. I'm pretty sure the
> > >>>>rear end is 3.73
> > >>>>3 questions:
> > >>>>1. Will I notice much of a difference in fuel economy going from the
> > >>>>225's to the 30's?
> > >>>
> > >>> I made a similar upgrade in my ZJ and I lost about one mpg. I thought
> > >>>it would go up because the larger diameter, but the more aggresive
> tread
> > >>>pattern countered that. It depends on how aggressive yout current tires
> > >>>are.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>2. Can I still use my original spare if I go with 235 or 30? I know I
> > >>>>should have a full size spare but I don't do much offroading and right
> > >>>>now I can't afford an extra tire.
> > >>>
> > >>>It's always best to have the same exact diameter tire on. I drove my ZJ
> > >>>once with the smaller spare, a 235, with the rest 30s and I could feel
> a
> > >>>vibration pick up around 60 mph and it pulled heavily to that one side.
> > >>>It can really damage your diffs if you have too great a tiresize
> > >>>differential.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>3. Can I fit one of the above sizes, on a steel rim in the stock spare
> > >>>>location, inside the back or will I need to mount it on the exterior?
> > >>>
> > >>>If you're wheels are 15x7 which they most likely are, you can go as
> high
> > >>>as 31x10 and still fit the wheel. As far as in stock location for the
> > >>>spare, I don't think I could fit more than a 30 in my XJ which is the
> > >>>biggest tire you are considering. I just got my XJ and it cam with
> > >>>215/70s on it! I plan on upgrading those as soon as possible. I think
> > >>>they're soo small that the speedo reads faster than I'm actually going.
> > >>>lol Anyway, good luck!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Thanks in advance
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Mort
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> >

Rich Pierson

I live in the pocono mtns in Pa, I have had my 98XJ since Dec of 97 and
here is my take on the snow tire thing.

Factory GY GSA 225's worked but thats about it, about 50K out of them,
poor wet road performance, decent dry road, so so off road in dry, get
the dirt wet and no good at all.

Pirelli Scorpion AT's in P235/75R15, Awsome tire, excellent in snow and
amazing on wet roads. Good off road in everything I've taken it thru.
They lasted about 50K then the sidewalls cracked probably because I used
that bleach white stuff to keep the white letters clean and/or
formula303, not sure which. Would have gotten another set but Sears
stopped carrying them for $75 Mounted/balanced and the local pirelli
dealer figured they were worth $150 a tire.

Dunlop Radial Rover AT's, LT235/75R15. OK tires, lasted about 75K,
slippery on wet roads with hard corners, tough adjustment after the
pirelli's, tended to float on snow covered roads and would 'track' in
snow ruts from other vehicles. Mounted white letters in so I would not be
tempted to clean them :-) $85 at a local tire store Mounted & balanced

BFG AT/KO's, LT235/75R15's, coming up on the second winter with them,
first winter they were very good. I actually like them. Again, white
letters in to help resist temptation :-) Better in snow than the Dunlops
and better on wet roads than the GY or Dunlops. BJ's Wholesale, even $100
per tire mounted/balanced and roadhazard guarantee. Had one tire replaced
after getting a 3" long ring shanked nail thru the sidewall.

Will be picking up 5 more for the YJ in 31's as soon as it's 5 spoke
wheels get back from the powder coaters. Xmas present for my son.

Mort <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in
news:PT67b.732$Gr.16536@read1.cgocable.net:

> Thanks for the help. I think I'm going to go with the 30's as long as
> they aren't too expensive.
>
> Mort
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>> jm wrote:
>>
>>> I'm planning on purchasing a set of BFG At's before the snow falls.
>>> I've been planning on getting 235/75/15 but my friend says I should
>>> go with 30's. I've got a 00 XJ with a 4.0 and auto. I'm pretty
>>> sure the rear end is 3.73
>>> 3 questions:
>>> 1. Will I notice much of a difference in fuel economy going from the
>>> 225's to the 30's?
>>
>> I made a similar upgrade in my ZJ and I lost about one mpg. I
>> thought
>> it would go up because the larger diameter, but the more aggresive
>> tread pattern countered that. It depends on how aggressive yout
>> current tires are.
>>
>>> 2. Can I still use my original spare if I go with 235 or 30? I know
>>> I should have a full size spare but I don't do much offroading and
>>> right now I can't afford an extra tire.
>>
>> It's always best to have the same exact diameter tire on. I drove my
>> ZJ once with the smaller spare, a 235, with the rest 30s and I could
>> feel a vibration pick up around 60 mph and it pulled heavily to that
>> one side. It can really damage your diffs if you have too great a
>> tiresize differential.
>>
>>> 3. Can I fit one of the above sizes, on a steel rim in the stock
>>> spare location, inside the back or will I need to mount it on the
>>> exterior?
>>
>> If you're wheels are 15x7 which they most likely are, you can go as
>> high as 31x10 and still fit the wheel. As far as in stock location
>> for the spare, I don't think I could fit more than a 30 in my XJ
>> which is the biggest tire you are considering. I just got my XJ and
>> it cam with 215/70s on it! I plan on upgrading those as soon as
>> possible. I think they're soo small that the speedo reads faster than
>> I'm actually going. lol Anyway, good luck!
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Mort
>>>
>>
>

Rich Pierson

I live in the pocono mtns in Pa, I have had my 98XJ since Dec of 97 and
here is my take on the snow tire thing.

Factory GY GSA 225's worked but thats about it, about 50K out of them,
poor wet road performance, decent dry road, so so off road in dry, get
the dirt wet and no good at all.

Pirelli Scorpion AT's in P235/75R15, Awsome tire, excellent in snow and
amazing on wet roads. Good off road in everything I've taken it thru.
They lasted about 50K then the sidewalls cracked probably because I used
that bleach white stuff to keep the white letters clean and/or
formula303, not sure which. Would have gotten another set but Sears
stopped carrying them for $75 Mounted/balanced and the local pirelli
dealer figured they were worth $150 a tire.

Dunlop Radial Rover AT's, LT235/75R15. OK tires, lasted about 75K,
slippery on wet roads with hard corners, tough adjustment after the
pirelli's, tended to float on snow covered roads and would 'track' in
snow ruts from other vehicles. Mounted white letters in so I would not be
tempted to clean them :-) $85 at a local tire store Mounted & balanced

BFG AT/KO's, LT235/75R15's, coming up on the second winter with them,
first winter they were very good. I actually like them. Again, white
letters in to help resist temptation :-) Better in snow than the Dunlops
and better on wet roads than the GY or Dunlops. BJ's Wholesale, even $100
per tire mounted/balanced and roadhazard guarantee. Had one tire replaced
after getting a 3" long ring shanked nail thru the sidewall.

Will be picking up 5 more for the YJ in 31's as soon as it's 5 spoke
wheels get back from the powder coaters. Xmas present for my son.

Mort <jmorton@on.aibn.nospamcom> wrote in
news:PT67b.732$Gr.16536@read1.cgocable.net:

> Thanks for the help. I think I'm going to go with the 30's as long as
> they aren't too expensive.
>
> Mort
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>> jm wrote:
>>
>>> I'm planning on purchasing a set of BFG At's before the snow falls.
>>> I've been planning on getting 235/75/15 but my friend says I should
>>> go with 30's. I've got a 00 XJ with a 4.0 and auto. I'm pretty
>>> sure the rear end is 3.73
>>> 3 questions:
>>> 1. Will I notice much of a difference in fuel economy going from the
>>> 225's to the 30's?
>>
>> I made a similar upgrade in my ZJ and I lost about one mpg. I
>> thought
>> it would go up because the larger diameter, but the more aggresive
>> tread pattern countered that. It depends on how aggressive yout
>> current tires are.
>>
>>> 2. Can I still use my original spare if I go with 235 or 30? I know
>>> I should have a full size spare but I don't do much offroading and
>>> right now I can't afford an extra tire.
>>
>> It's always best to have the same exact diameter tire on. I drove my
>> ZJ once with the smaller spare, a 235, with the rest 30s and I could
>> feel a vibration pick up around 60 mph and it pulled heavily to that
>> one side. It can really damage your diffs if you have too great a
>> tiresize differential.
>>
>>> 3. Can I fit one of the above sizes, on a steel rim in the stock
>>> spare location, inside the back or will I need to mount it on the
>>> exterior?
>>
>> If you're wheels are 15x7 which they most likely are, you can go as
>> high as 31x10 and still fit the wheel. As far as in stock location
>> for the spare, I don't think I could fit more than a 30 in my XJ
>> which is the biggest tire you are considering. I just got my XJ and
>> it cam with 215/70s on it! I plan on upgrading those as soon as
>> possible. I think they're soo small that the speedo reads faster than
>> I'm actually going. lol Anyway, good luck!
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Mort
>>>
>>
>

TJim

Not much. What's snow with you?

"Steve Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "bowgus" <Bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> > Well ... my 96 XJ does not function well at all in snow with my 235s.
It's
> > way too light and tends to float ... the 225s snows work much better.
And
> > when they're done, I'll likely go even narrower with the snows.
>
> What's 'snow'?
> __
> Steve
> Texas
> (gloat)
> .
>
>

TJim

Not much. What's snow with you?

"Steve Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "bowgus" <Bowgus@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:4f97b.196939$_V.135658@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > Well ... my 96 XJ does not function well at all in snow with my 235s.
It's
> > way too light and tends to float ... the 225s snows work much better.
And
> > when they're done, I'll likely go even narrower with the snows.
>
> What's 'snow'?
> __
> Steve
> Texas
> (gloat)
> .
>
>