Jerry Bransford

Eric, I'm with 4WP, the company that owns ProComp. For a Jeep, avoid those
ProComp ES-3000 shocks unless you want an ULTRA-stiff ride. Now how's that
for an opinion? The guy with the company that makes the shocks says not to
put them on your XJ. ;) They're great on larger trucks but they're just
valved too stiffly for a Jeep.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:esfSc.11915$va2.5228@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
> automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
off-road
> time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it. However,
> when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
> Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
> expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
> ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
> this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but they
> really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
ProComps.
>
> Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
this
> is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
> TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>
> Eric
>
>

Jerry Bransford

Eric, I'm with 4WP, the company that owns ProComp. For a Jeep, avoid those
ProComp ES-3000 shocks unless you want an ULTRA-stiff ride. Now how's that
for an opinion? The guy with the company that makes the shocks says not to
put them on your XJ. ;) They're great on larger trucks but they're just
valved too stiffly for a Jeep.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:esfSc.11915$va2.5228@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
> automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
off-road
> time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it. However,
> when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
> Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
> expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
> ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
> this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but they
> really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
ProComps.
>
> Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
this
> is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
> TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>
> Eric
>
>

Jerry Bransford

Eric, I'm with 4WP, the company that owns ProComp. For a Jeep, avoid those
ProComp ES-3000 shocks unless you want an ULTRA-stiff ride. Now how's that
for an opinion? The guy with the company that makes the shocks says not to
put them on your XJ. ;) They're great on larger trucks but they're just
valved too stiffly for a Jeep.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:esfSc.11915$va2.5228@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
> automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
off-road
> time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it. However,
> when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
> Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
> expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
> ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
> this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but they
> really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
ProComps.
>
> Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
this
> is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
> TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>
> Eric
>
>

twaldron

They probably ARE in the same category as Rancho 5000s, which are very
stiff shocks as well. I would do the DT3000s, or possibly the OME, which
are a little more expensive. A family Jeep doesn't deserve Procomp
shocks. Ask him what he lifts...maybe it's Chevy trucks. :)

Eric wrote:

> That's what I said when they put them in the same category as the Rancho
> 5000s... so why would this guy just lie? He's got his own business, selling
> lifts/lift kits/components (authorized Rubicon/DT dealer), and suggests I
> get a product from somewhere else since it's all just about the same anyway.
> ???????
>
> Eric
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:3GfSc.5277$665.3991@newssvr23.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>DON'T DO IT!! Go with the DT3000s, Procomps are STIFF!!
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
>>>automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
>
> off-road
>
>>>time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it.
>
> However,
>
>>>when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
>>>Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
>>>expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
>>>ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
>>>this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but
>
> they
>
>>>really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
>
> ProComps.
>
>>>Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
>
> this
>
>>>is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
>>>TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>>>
>>>Eric
>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

They probably ARE in the same category as Rancho 5000s, which are very
stiff shocks as well. I would do the DT3000s, or possibly the OME, which
are a little more expensive. A family Jeep doesn't deserve Procomp
shocks. Ask him what he lifts...maybe it's Chevy trucks. :)

Eric wrote:

> That's what I said when they put them in the same category as the Rancho
> 5000s... so why would this guy just lie? He's got his own business, selling
> lifts/lift kits/components (authorized Rubicon/DT dealer), and suggests I
> get a product from somewhere else since it's all just about the same anyway.
> ???????
>
> Eric
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:3GfSc.5277$665.3991@newssvr23.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>DON'T DO IT!! Go with the DT3000s, Procomps are STIFF!!
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
>>>automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
>
> off-road
>
>>>time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it.
>
> However,
>
>>>when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
>>>Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
>>>expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
>>>ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
>>>this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but
>
> they
>
>>>really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
>
> ProComps.
>
>>>Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
>
> this
>
>>>is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
>>>TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>>>
>>>Eric
>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

They probably ARE in the same category as Rancho 5000s, which are very
stiff shocks as well. I would do the DT3000s, or possibly the OME, which
are a little more expensive. A family Jeep doesn't deserve Procomp
shocks. Ask him what he lifts...maybe it's Chevy trucks. :)

Eric wrote:

> That's what I said when they put them in the same category as the Rancho
> 5000s... so why would this guy just lie? He's got his own business, selling
> lifts/lift kits/components (authorized Rubicon/DT dealer), and suggests I
> get a product from somewhere else since it's all just about the same anyway.
> ???????
>
> Eric
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:3GfSc.5277$665.3991@newssvr23.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>DON'T DO IT!! Go with the DT3000s, Procomps are STIFF!!
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
>>>automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
>
> off-road
>
>>>time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it.
>
> However,
>
>>>when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
>>>Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
>>>expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
>>>ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
>>>this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but
>
> they
>
>>>really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
>
> ProComps.
>
>>>Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
>
> this
>
>>>is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
>>>TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>>>
>>>Eric
>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron

They probably ARE in the same category as Rancho 5000s, which are very
stiff shocks as well. I would do the DT3000s, or possibly the OME, which
are a little more expensive. A family Jeep doesn't deserve Procomp
shocks. Ask him what he lifts...maybe it's Chevy trucks. :)

Eric wrote:

> That's what I said when they put them in the same category as the Rancho
> 5000s... so why would this guy just lie? He's got his own business, selling
> lifts/lift kits/components (authorized Rubicon/DT dealer), and suggests I
> get a product from somewhere else since it's all just about the same anyway.
> ???????
>
> Eric
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:3GfSc.5277$665.3991@newssvr23.news.prodigy.co m...
>
>>DON'T DO IT!! Go with the DT3000s, Procomps are STIFF!!
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
>>>automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
>
> off-road
>
>>>time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it.
>
> However,
>
>>>when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
>>>Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
>>>expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
>>>ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
>>>this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but
>
> they
>
>>>really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
>
> ProComps.
>
>>>Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
>
> this
>
>>>is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
>>>TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>>>
>>>Eric
>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Nick N

I first had the es3000's and they were stiff in my lightweight Jeep. I
switched to the adjustable shocks and love them. I can adjust them how I
want. Normally I keep them soft in the front to absorb the weight and shock
of the engine and stiffer in the back to control sway and dolphining.
Nick

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:esfSc.11915$va2.5228@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
> automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
off-road
> time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it. However,
> when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
> Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
> expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
> ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
> this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but they
> really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
ProComps.
>
> Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
this
> is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
> TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>
> Eric
>
>

Nick N

I first had the es3000's and they were stiff in my lightweight Jeep. I
switched to the adjustable shocks and love them. I can adjust them how I
want. Normally I keep them soft in the front to absorb the weight and shock
of the engine and stiffer in the back to control sway and dolphining.
Nick

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:esfSc.11915$va2.5228@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
> automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
off-road
> time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it. However,
> when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
> Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
> expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
> ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
> this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but they
> really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
ProComps.
>
> Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
this
> is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
> TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>
> Eric
>
>

Nick N

I first had the es3000's and they were stiff in my lightweight Jeep. I
switched to the adjustable shocks and love them. I can adjust them how I
want. Normally I keep them soft in the front to absorb the weight and shock
of the engine and stiffer in the back to control sway and dolphining.
Nick

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:esfSc.11915$va2.5228@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> As you may have read, I'm replacing the shocks in my wife's 2000 XJ. I
> automatically went for the DT3000s. Mind you this doesn't see any
off-road
> time as of yet. Might get some beach time, but that's about it. However,
> when calling around, I came across a shop that would order them for me.
> Here's the weird part -- the guy actually talked me out of them at the
> expense of buying anything from him. Said to just go with the Procomp
> ES3000s that another shop in town had in stock. He said he's been doing
> this for years, and that yes, people will say the DTs are better, but they
> really aren't. Said all he puts on the lifts he installs are the
ProComps.
>
> Do you guys know anything about those shocks? I want a decent ride as
this
> is our family-mobile (Nice as in NOT like my rough country shocks on the
> TJ....). Thoughts? Price and time are definitely concerns.
>
> Eric
>
>