Steve Foley

Best to Worst....

Red
Orange
Yellow
Green
Blue
Lavinder
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"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
> Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>
> What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> > originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
go
> > into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
white
> > or
> > red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> >> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> >> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> >> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> >> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> >> owned it. LOL!
> >>
> >> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> >> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >
> >> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
> > issues,
> >> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing
a
> >> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
shiny
> > rod
> >> > goes into the cylinder.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> >> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
the
> >> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
> >> > >
> >> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
> >> > > the
> >> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >> > >
> >> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> >> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> >> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
> >> > > is
> > a
> >> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
close
> >> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
> > front
> >> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
> > should
> >> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
compared
> > to
> >> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
> >> > > only
> >> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > > Jan/06
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> > >
> >> > > Rachel wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus
> > far.
> >> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
> > aproaching
> >> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
washing
> >> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
> > center
> >> > > >
> >> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
ride
> > but
> >> > > >
> >> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
from
> >> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
trip
> > the
> >> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
> > suggestions
> >> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> >> > > > thanks
> >
> >
>
>

Steve Foley

Best to Worst....

Red
Orange
Yellow
Green
Blue
Lavinder
Indego
Violet

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
> Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>
> What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
> > originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
go
> > into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
white
> > or
> > red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
> >> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
> >> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
> >> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
> >> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
> >> owned it. LOL!
> >>
> >> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
> >> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> >
> >> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
> > issues,
> >> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing
a
> >> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
shiny
> > rod
> >> > goes into the cylinder.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
> >> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
the
> >> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
> >> > >
> >> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
> >> > > the
> >> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
> >> > >
> >> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
> >> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
> >> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
> >> > > is
> > a
> >> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
close
> >> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
> > front
> >> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
> > should
> >> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
compared
> > to
> >> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
> >> > > only
> >> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike
> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> > > Jan/06
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> > >
> >> > > Rachel wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus
> > far.
> >> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
> > aproaching
> >> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
washing
> >> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
> > center
> >> > > >
> >> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
ride
> > but
> >> > > >
> >> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
from
> >> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
trip
> > the
> >> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
> > suggestions
> >> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
> >> > > > thanks
> >
> >
>
>

billy ray

I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
Miami, and New York......

I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
sashay....


"Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
> Best to Worst....
>
> Red
> Orange
> Yellow
> Green
> Blue
> Lavinder
> Indego
> Violet
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
>> Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>
>> What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>> news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>> > originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
> go
>> > into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
> white
>> > or
>> > red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> >> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> >> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>> >> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>> >> owned it. LOL!
>> >>
>> >> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> >> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>> > issues,
>> >> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>> >> > causing
> a
>> >> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
> shiny
>> > rod
>> >> > goes into the cylinder.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
> the
>> >> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>> >> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> >> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>> >> > > It
>> >> > > is
>> > a
>> >> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
> close
>> >> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>> > front
>> >> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>> > should
>> >> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
> compared
>> > to
>> >> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> >> > > only
>> >> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mike
>> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> > > Jan/06
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Rachel wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>> >> > > > thus
>> > far.
>> >> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>> > aproaching
>> >> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
> washing
>> >> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>> > center
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
> ride
>> > but
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
> from
>> >> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
> trip
>> > the
>> >> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>> > suggestions
>> >> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
>> >> > > > thanks
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
Miami, and New York......

I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
sashay....


"Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
> Best to Worst....
>
> Red
> Orange
> Yellow
> Green
> Blue
> Lavinder
> Indego
> Violet
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
>> Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>
>> What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>> news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>> > originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
> go
>> > into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
> white
>> > or
>> > red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> >> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> >> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>> >> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>> >> owned it. LOL!
>> >>
>> >> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> >> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>> > issues,
>> >> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>> >> > causing
> a
>> >> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
> shiny
>> > rod
>> >> > goes into the cylinder.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
> the
>> >> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>> >> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> >> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>> >> > > It
>> >> > > is
>> > a
>> >> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
> close
>> >> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>> > front
>> >> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>> > should
>> >> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
> compared
>> > to
>> >> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> >> > > only
>> >> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mike
>> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> > > Jan/06
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Rachel wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>> >> > > > thus
>> > far.
>> >> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>> > aproaching
>> >> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
> washing
>> >> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>> > center
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
> ride
>> > but
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
> from
>> >> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
> trip
>> > the
>> >> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>> > suggestions
>> >> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
>> >> > > > thanks
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

billy ray

I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
Miami, and New York......

I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
sashay....


"Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
> Best to Worst....
>
> Red
> Orange
> Yellow
> Green
> Blue
> Lavinder
> Indego
> Violet
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
>> Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>
>> What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>> news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>> > originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
> go
>> > into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
> white
>> > or
>> > red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> > news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>> >> I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>> >> figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>> >> flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>> >> and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>> >> owned it. LOL!
>> >>
>> >> Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>> >> stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>> > issues,
>> >> > for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>> >> > causing
> a
>> >> > problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
> shiny
>> > rod
>> >> > goes into the cylinder.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> >> > news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>> >> > > That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
> the
>> >> > > road or snap something so you lose control.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>> >> > > passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>> >> > > wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>> >> > > It
>> >> > > is
>> > a
>> >> > > bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
> close
>> >> > > when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>> > front
>> >> > > and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>> > should
>> >> > > turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
> compared
>> > to
>> >> > > the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>> >> > > only
>> >> > > masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mike
>> >> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >> > > Jan/06
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Rachel wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>> >> > > > thus
>> > far.
>> >> > > > The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>> > aproaching
>> >> > > > 60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
> washing
>> >> > > > machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>> > center
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
> ride
>> > but
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > this not just the typical ride of the car.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
> from
>> >> > > > college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
> trip
>> > the
>> >> > > > shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>> > suggestions
>> >> > > > would be greatly appreciated!!
>> >> > > > thanks
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Jeffrey DeWitt

billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.

Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)

billy ray wrote:
> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
> Miami, and New York......
>
> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
> sashay....
>
>
> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>
>>Best to Worst....
>>
>>Red
>>Orange
>>Yellow
>>Green
>>Blue
>>Lavinder
>>Indego
>>Violet
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>>
>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanew s.com...
>>>
>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
>>
>>go
>>
>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>>
>>white
>>
>>>>or
>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>>>>
>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>>>>
>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>>>>
>>>>issues,
>>>>
>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>>>>>>causing
>>
>>a
>>
>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>>
>>shiny
>>
>>>>rod
>>>>
>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Earle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>>
>>close
>>
>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>>>>
>>>>front
>>>>
>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>>>>
>>>>should
>>>>
>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>>
>>compared
>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06
>>
>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>>>>>>>>thus
>>>>
>>>>far.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>>>>
>>>>aproaching
>>>>
>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>>
>>washing
>>
>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>>>>
>>>>center
>>>>
>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>>
>>ride
>>
>>>>but
>>>>
>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>>
>>from
>>
>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>>
>>trip
>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>>>>
>>>>suggestions
>>>>
>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Jeffrey DeWitt

billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.

Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)

billy ray wrote:
> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
> Miami, and New York......
>
> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
> sashay....
>
>
> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>
>>Best to Worst....
>>
>>Red
>>Orange
>>Yellow
>>Green
>>Blue
>>Lavinder
>>Indego
>>Violet
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>>
>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanew s.com...
>>>
>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
>>
>>go
>>
>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>>
>>white
>>
>>>>or
>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>>>>
>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>>>>
>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>>>>
>>>>issues,
>>>>
>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>>>>>>causing
>>
>>a
>>
>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>>
>>shiny
>>
>>>>rod
>>>>
>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Earle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>>
>>close
>>
>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>>>>
>>>>front
>>>>
>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>>>>
>>>>should
>>>>
>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>>
>>compared
>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06
>>
>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>>>>>>>>thus
>>>>
>>>>far.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>>>>
>>>>aproaching
>>>>
>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>>
>>washing
>>
>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>>>>
>>>>center
>>>>
>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>>
>>ride
>>
>>>>but
>>>>
>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>>
>>from
>>
>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>>
>>trip
>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>>>>
>>>>suggestions
>>>>
>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Jeffrey DeWitt

billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.

Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)

billy ray wrote:
> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
> Miami, and New York......
>
> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
> sashay....
>
>
> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>
>>Best to Worst....
>>
>>Red
>>Orange
>>Yellow
>>Green
>>Blue
>>Lavinder
>>Indego
>>Violet
>>
>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>>
>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>>
>>>
>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanew s.com...
>>>
>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
>>
>>go
>>
>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>>
>>white
>>
>>>>or
>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>>>>
>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>>>>
>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>>>>
>>>>issues,
>>>>
>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing
>>>>>>causing
>>
>>a
>>
>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>>
>>shiny
>>
>>>>rod
>>>>
>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Earle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle.
>>>>>>>It
>>>>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>>
>>close
>>
>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>>>>
>>>>front
>>>>
>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>>>>
>>>>should
>>>>
>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>>
>>compared
>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06
>>
>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me
>>>>>>>>thus
>>>>
>>>>far.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>>>>
>>>>aproaching
>>>>
>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>>
>>washing
>>
>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>>>>
>>>>center
>>>>
>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>>
>>ride
>>
>>>>but
>>>>
>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>>
>>from
>>
>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>>
>>trip
>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>>>>
>>>>suggestions
>>>>
>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Matt Macchiarolo

You forgot fucsia. ;-)

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
> billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
>
> Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
>> Miami, and New York......
>>
>> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
>> sashay....
>>
>>
>> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>>
>>>Best to Worst....
>>>
>>>Red
>>>Orange
>>>Yellow
>>>Green
>>>Blue
>>>Lavinder
>>>Indego
>>>Violet
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>>>
>>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
>>>
>>>go
>>>
>>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>>>
>>>white
>>>
>>>>>or
>>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>>>>>
>>>>>issues,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>>>
>>>shiny
>>>
>>>>>rod
>>>>>
>>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Earle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>>>
>>>close
>>>
>>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>>>>>
>>>>>front
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>>>>>
>>>>>should
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>>>
>>>compared
>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06
>>>
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus
>>>>>
>>>>>far.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>>>>>
>>>>>aproaching
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>>>
>>>washing
>>>
>>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>>>>>
>>>>>center
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>>>
>>>ride
>>>
>>>>>but
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>>>
>>>from
>>>
>>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>>>
>>>trip
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>>>>>
>>>>>suggestions
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

Matt Macchiarolo

You forgot fucsia. ;-)

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:dFDUg.963$gL.263@southeast.rr.com...
> billy billy billy, how shockingly unPC can you be <G>.
>
> Jeff DeWitt (only thing PC about me runs Windows)
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> I wonder if they sell to decals with that pattern in San Francisco, South
>> Miami, and New York......
>>
>> I would be concerned that would cause the Jeep to sway back and forth or
>> sashay....
>>
>>
>> "Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:5ozUg.2317$6S2.782@trndny02...
>>
>>>Best to Worst....
>>>
>>>Red
>>>Orange
>>>Yellow
>>>Green
>>>Blue
>>>Lavinder
>>>Indego
>>>Violet
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>news:c8d5c$4522c157$422afc51$24986@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>Does that mean if I just spray paint mine it will work better?
>>>>
>>>>What are the colors in rank of 'superiority'?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:4522b275$0$11314$a82e2bb9@reader.athenane ws.com...
>>>>
>>>>>Mine (on the YJ) was leaking, but still worked fine. The reason they
>>>>>originally put them on, was that you could hit a bump "just right", and
>>>
>>>go
>>>
>>>>>into death wobble. You will want to replace yours with a new shiny
>>>
>>>white
>>>
>>>>>or
>>>>>red one, because they "look cool" in addition to whatever good they do.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4522B331.4FCB45F5@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess I have my front end set up pretty good then... I recently
>>>>>>figured out my 'stabilizer' is nothing but a hollow tube with a rod
>>>>>>flopping around in it. I unhooked it to diagnose a steering jam I had
>>>>>>and realized this. It has never leaked a drop in the 10 years I have
>>>>>>owned it. LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Her description sounds like a dead track bar though. If it was the
>>>>>>stabilizer, she would feel it more in the steering I would think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They put the steering stabilizer on there for a reason. It can mask
>>>>>
>>>>>issues,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>for sure, but I have seen vehicles where it is the only thing causing
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>>problem like this. If it is bad, it may be wet around where the
>>>
>>>shiny
>>>
>>>>>rod
>>>>>
>>>>>>>goes into the cylinder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Earle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:4522908E.2C0DE4@sympatico.ca...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is called the 'death wobble' and can literally shake you off
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>road or snap something so you lose control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Having the tires rotated will fast tell you if it is a bad tire in
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>front, but I would be looking at the track bar bushings first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is the bar that goes from the driver's side frame down to the
>>>>>>>>passenger side axle. If you look under and have someone turn the
>>>>>>>>wheels, you can maybe see play in the bushing down at the axle. It
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>bit harder to see when the drivers side is bad, but if you look
>>>
>>>close
>>>
>>>>>>>>when someone turns the steering back and forth, you might see it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you sit in the drivers seat and get an eyeball on the ground in
>>>>>
>>>>>front
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and turn the steering wheel a half turn each way, only the wheels
>>>>>
>>>>>should
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>turn. If you can see the nose of the Jeep move side to side
>>>
>>>compared
>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the ground in the background, then the track bar is the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You also have a steering stabilizer shock that can go bad, but it
>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>masks issues, it won't be the cause.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06
>>>
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rachel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a 98' Wrangler-manual. He has been pretty good to me thus
>>>>>
>>>>>far.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The only problem I have is when I go over 60 (and when I am
>>>>>
>>>>>aproaching
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>60) THe car begins to shake uncontrolably. It feels like a
>>>
>>>washing
>>>
>>>>>>>>>machine out of rotation and it seems to be coming from the front
>>>>>
>>>>>center
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>of the Jeep. I know that Jeeps are loud and not the smoothest
>>>
>>>ride
>>>
>>>>>but
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>this not just the typical ride of the car.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Normally this would not be a problem but the 4.5 hr drive home
>>>
>>>from
>>>
>>>>>>>>>college is sometimes unbareable. During the duration of this
>>>
>>>trip
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>shaking doesn't occur as much once it is "warmed up". Any
>>>>>
>>>>>suggestions
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>would be greatly appreciated!!
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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