serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
08-28-2006, 05:01 PM
#21
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
I would keep an eye on the alternator output. Dropping a volt or so can
mean a diode died which will put more of an AC wave into the output and
lower the DC power.
It also could just mean the belt is slipping some too....
You will know when you change it. Did you locate the adjusting bolt for
the PS pump on the bottom right of it? Watch out for that damn lock
bolt!
Mike
bobvonbob wrote:
>
> thanks all - as usual i appreciate the help. bill - i looked at your
> diagram but i think my set up is a bit different - i'm sure i dont have
> two idler pullys - possibly one... i have to look underneath the power
> steering pump and see.
> mike - i'd love to not bother with the belt unfortunately i dont think
> this belt has EVER been changed - its thouroughly cracked and this
> seems like a good a time as any to change it.
> one more question - i noticed that yesterday - after i had loosened all
> the alternator bolts and pounded and pried on it for a while before
> giving up and tightening all the bolts down again - i went for a drive
> and noticed that my alternator output is lower - only about 12.75-13V -
> down from about 14. hopefully only because the belt was loosened a
> little from all my pulling on it, and i did notice that the alternator
> shifted a bit when i loosened the bolts... so, i couldnt have damaged
> it too much from the rather 'forceful' methods i employed right? i am
> ashamed to say that i eventually even reached for the hammer... amatuer
> hour. oh well - i suppose the alternator would either work or not if i
> really damaged the stator... not just drop a volt or two - right?
> you can tell what it is that i want to hear here...
> thanks all. i'll tell you all how it goes...
> bennett
mean a diode died which will put more of an AC wave into the output and
lower the DC power.
It also could just mean the belt is slipping some too....
You will know when you change it. Did you locate the adjusting bolt for
the PS pump on the bottom right of it? Watch out for that damn lock
bolt!
Mike
bobvonbob wrote:
>
> thanks all - as usual i appreciate the help. bill - i looked at your
> diagram but i think my set up is a bit different - i'm sure i dont have
> two idler pullys - possibly one... i have to look underneath the power
> steering pump and see.
> mike - i'd love to not bother with the belt unfortunately i dont think
> this belt has EVER been changed - its thouroughly cracked and this
> seems like a good a time as any to change it.
> one more question - i noticed that yesterday - after i had loosened all
> the alternator bolts and pounded and pried on it for a while before
> giving up and tightening all the bolts down again - i went for a drive
> and noticed that my alternator output is lower - only about 12.75-13V -
> down from about 14. hopefully only because the belt was loosened a
> little from all my pulling on it, and i did notice that the alternator
> shifted a bit when i loosened the bolts... so, i couldnt have damaged
> it too much from the rather 'forceful' methods i employed right? i am
> ashamed to say that i eventually even reached for the hammer... amatuer
> hour. oh well - i suppose the alternator would either work or not if i
> really damaged the stator... not just drop a volt or two - right?
> you can tell what it is that i want to hear here...
> thanks all. i'll tell you all how it goes...
> bennett
08-28-2006, 05:21 PM
#22
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
thanks mike - havent had the chance to do it today. i'll know
tomorrow... thanks to you and everyone else i can probably actually get
it done! i thought this whole procedure was going to take me 45
minutes. serves me right for thinking i know what the hell i'm doing.
cheers,
bennett
ps thanks to carl for the autozone link - thats quite a nice free
resource!
tomorrow... thanks to you and everyone else i can probably actually get
it done! i thought this whole procedure was going to take me 45
minutes. serves me right for thinking i know what the hell i'm doing.
cheers,
bennett
ps thanks to carl for the autozone link - thats quite a nice free
resource!
08-28-2006, 05:21 PM
#23
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
thanks mike - havent had the chance to do it today. i'll know
tomorrow... thanks to you and everyone else i can probably actually get
it done! i thought this whole procedure was going to take me 45
minutes. serves me right for thinking i know what the hell i'm doing.
cheers,
bennett
ps thanks to carl for the autozone link - thats quite a nice free
resource!
tomorrow... thanks to you and everyone else i can probably actually get
it done! i thought this whole procedure was going to take me 45
minutes. serves me right for thinking i know what the hell i'm doing.
cheers,
bennett
ps thanks to carl for the autozone link - thats quite a nice free
resource!
08-28-2006, 05:21 PM
#24
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
thanks mike - havent had the chance to do it today. i'll know
tomorrow... thanks to you and everyone else i can probably actually get
it done! i thought this whole procedure was going to take me 45
minutes. serves me right for thinking i know what the hell i'm doing.
cheers,
bennett
ps thanks to carl for the autozone link - thats quite a nice free
resource!
tomorrow... thanks to you and everyone else i can probably actually get
it done! i thought this whole procedure was going to take me 45
minutes. serves me right for thinking i know what the hell i'm doing.
cheers,
bennett
ps thanks to carl for the autozone link - thats quite a nice free
resource!
08-28-2006, 05:21 PM
#25
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
thanks mike - havent had the chance to do it today. i'll know
tomorrow... thanks to you and everyone else i can probably actually get
it done! i thought this whole procedure was going to take me 45
minutes. serves me right for thinking i know what the hell i'm doing.
cheers,
bennett
ps thanks to carl for the autozone link - thats quite a nice free
resource!
tomorrow... thanks to you and everyone else i can probably actually get
it done! i thought this whole procedure was going to take me 45
minutes. serves me right for thinking i know what the hell i'm doing.
cheers,
bennett
ps thanks to carl for the autozone link - thats quite a nice free
resource!
08-28-2006, 07:30 PM
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
Hey Bennett,
It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
, it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
you have problems.
Kevin
It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
, it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
you have problems.
Kevin
08-28-2006, 07:30 PM
#27
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
Hey Bennett,
It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
, it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
you have problems.
Kevin
It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
, it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
you have problems.
Kevin
08-28-2006, 07:30 PM
#28
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
Hey Bennett,
It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
, it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
you have problems.
Kevin
It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
, it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
you have problems.
Kevin
08-28-2006, 07:30 PM
#29
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
Hey Bennett,
It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
, it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
you have problems.
Kevin
It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
, it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
you have problems.
Kevin
08-28-2006, 07:51 PM
#30
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Re: serpentine belt ('87 YJ)
You can undo a flat 'serpentine' belt with the alternator????? He
doesn't have V-belts....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Kevin wrote:
>
> Hey Bennett,
> It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
> by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
> is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
> you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
> your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
> about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
> compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
> , it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
> bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
> bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
> your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
> it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
> then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
> really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
> but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
> basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
> to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
> wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
> that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
> This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
> those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
> the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
> Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
> which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
> with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
> you have problems.
> Kevin
doesn't have V-belts....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Kevin wrote:
>
> Hey Bennett,
> It's me Kevin we have the exact same Jeep. That altenator is held in
> by a two piece adjusting bracket (one in front and one in back) so it
> is tricky to see what bolts are holding what. There are only 3 bolts
> you need to loosen to free the alternator. While standing in front of
> your Jeep and using the alternator as a clock face. The first is at
> about 2 o'clock and it is located about an inch directly below your AC
> compressor pulley. Ignore the obvious bolt you see there at 1 o'clock
> , it just attaches the alt. to the front adjusting bracket. The second
> bolt is at about 5 o'clock, this is the pivot bolt. Finally the last
> bolt is on the BACK SIDE of the alt. at the bottom just an inch from
> your fender well. This one you might want to remove completely since
> it will bind up the works if the bolt or bracket are bent at all. You
> then may have to pry up from underneath the Jeep to free it if it is
> really old. The thing will only pivot about an inch or two at best,
> but that should be plenty to remove and install the new belt. You'll
> basically be pulling it up towards the center of the the Jeep to get it
> to slacken the belt . When reinstalling if you have your stock lug
> wrench that is mounted right there on the fender well, Slide the end of
> that over the bolt there at 1 o'clock and push up with your left hand.
> This forces the alt. down thus tightening the belt and you can tighten
> those front two bolts with your right hand while keeping leverage on
> the pry bar with your left. Then tighten the rear bolt last.
> Good luck, I'd try this again before attacking the power steering pump
> which was not designed to adjust tension on your belt system. Any luck
> with that info on your emissions label under the hood? Let me know if
> you have problems.
> Kevin