Seeking Wrangler Advice
10-06-2003, 07:56 PM
#21
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
Stay away from the 1997. That one has a messed up engine!
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
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> "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
> news:O9ggb.199$mQ2.159@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ.
>
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost
the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4
speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if
youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:m7kgb.31011$xB4.10889@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
> news:O9ggb.199$mQ2.159@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ.
>
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost
the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4
speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if
youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
10-06-2003, 07:56 PM
#22
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
Stay away from the 1997. That one has a messed up engine!
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:m7kgb.31011$xB4.10889@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
> news:O9ggb.199$mQ2.159@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ.
>
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost
the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4
speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if
youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
"Nathan W. Collier" <JeepChat@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
news:m7kgb.31011$xB4.10889@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
> news:O9ggb.199$mQ2.159@newsread1.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
> > I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ.
>
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost
the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4
speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if
youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
>
>
>
10-06-2003, 07:57 PM
#23
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:49:02 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
wrote:
>I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ. Currently, my
>only significant requirement is that I believe I want a six cylinder versus
>a four cylinder. I am looking to use the vehicle as a second vehicle and do
>to some casual off-roading with it. A few questions:
>
> 2.. Are there any particular options or Wrangler models I should look for
>or avoid?
a lot of this will depend on your patticular prefernces but i wouldn't
do without the running boards. why? they act as a buffer against
pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
door.
> 3.. I was going to shop for the Wrangler through conventional outlets such
>as Jeep dealerships, non-Jeep dealerships and via local newspapers. What
>other options do I have to obtain that 'particular' Wrangler?
>Many Thanks!
there are a bunch of reputable car finder services on the net. give
those a try. most will end up pointing you to a local dealer.
>
wrote:
>I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ. Currently, my
>only significant requirement is that I believe I want a six cylinder versus
>a four cylinder. I am looking to use the vehicle as a second vehicle and do
>to some casual off-roading with it. A few questions:
>
> 2.. Are there any particular options or Wrangler models I should look for
>or avoid?
a lot of this will depend on your patticular prefernces but i wouldn't
do without the running boards. why? they act as a buffer against
pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
door.
> 3.. I was going to shop for the Wrangler through conventional outlets such
>as Jeep dealerships, non-Jeep dealerships and via local newspapers. What
>other options do I have to obtain that 'particular' Wrangler?
>Many Thanks!
there are a bunch of reputable car finder services on the net. give
those a try. most will end up pointing you to a local dealer.
>
10-06-2003, 07:57 PM
#24
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:49:02 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
wrote:
>I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ. Currently, my
>only significant requirement is that I believe I want a six cylinder versus
>a four cylinder. I am looking to use the vehicle as a second vehicle and do
>to some casual off-roading with it. A few questions:
>
> 2.. Are there any particular options or Wrangler models I should look for
>or avoid?
a lot of this will depend on your patticular prefernces but i wouldn't
do without the running boards. why? they act as a buffer against
pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
door.
> 3.. I was going to shop for the Wrangler through conventional outlets such
>as Jeep dealerships, non-Jeep dealerships and via local newspapers. What
>other options do I have to obtain that 'particular' Wrangler?
>Many Thanks!
there are a bunch of reputable car finder services on the net. give
those a try. most will end up pointing you to a local dealer.
>
wrote:
>I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ. Currently, my
>only significant requirement is that I believe I want a six cylinder versus
>a four cylinder. I am looking to use the vehicle as a second vehicle and do
>to some casual off-roading with it. A few questions:
>
> 2.. Are there any particular options or Wrangler models I should look for
>or avoid?
a lot of this will depend on your patticular prefernces but i wouldn't
do without the running boards. why? they act as a buffer against
pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
door.
> 3.. I was going to shop for the Wrangler through conventional outlets such
>as Jeep dealerships, non-Jeep dealerships and via local newspapers. What
>other options do I have to obtain that 'particular' Wrangler?
>Many Thanks!
there are a bunch of reputable car finder services on the net. give
those a try. most will end up pointing you to a local dealer.
>
10-06-2003, 07:57 PM
#25
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 15:49:02 GMT, "Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com>
wrote:
>I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ. Currently, my
>only significant requirement is that I believe I want a six cylinder versus
>a four cylinder. I am looking to use the vehicle as a second vehicle and do
>to some casual off-roading with it. A few questions:
>
> 2.. Are there any particular options or Wrangler models I should look for
>or avoid?
a lot of this will depend on your patticular prefernces but i wouldn't
do without the running boards. why? they act as a buffer against
pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
door.
> 3.. I was going to shop for the Wrangler through conventional outlets such
>as Jeep dealerships, non-Jeep dealerships and via local newspapers. What
>other options do I have to obtain that 'particular' Wrangler?
>Many Thanks!
there are a bunch of reputable car finder services on the net. give
those a try. most will end up pointing you to a local dealer.
>
wrote:
>I am interested in purchasing a 'pre-owned' Jeep Wrangler TJ. Currently, my
>only significant requirement is that I believe I want a six cylinder versus
>a four cylinder. I am looking to use the vehicle as a second vehicle and do
>to some casual off-roading with it. A few questions:
>
> 2.. Are there any particular options or Wrangler models I should look for
>or avoid?
a lot of this will depend on your patticular prefernces but i wouldn't
do without the running boards. why? they act as a buffer against
pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
door.
> 3.. I was going to shop for the Wrangler through conventional outlets such
>as Jeep dealerships, non-Jeep dealerships and via local newspapers. What
>other options do I have to obtain that 'particular' Wrangler?
>Many Thanks!
there are a bunch of reputable car finder services on the net. give
those a try. most will end up pointing you to a local dealer.
>
10-06-2003, 08:12 PM
#26
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
'03 also added:
- moved vents from hard-top sides to rear door
- sound 'pods' vs sound 'bar' (or was that '02?)
- new rear seat folding mechanism
(perhaps others, these is just what I figured out so far)
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4 speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
- moved vents from hard-top sides to rear door
- sound 'pods' vs sound 'bar' (or was that '02?)
- new rear seat folding mechanism
(perhaps others, these is just what I figured out so far)
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4 speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
10-06-2003, 08:12 PM
#27
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
'03 also added:
- moved vents from hard-top sides to rear door
- sound 'pods' vs sound 'bar' (or was that '02?)
- new rear seat folding mechanism
(perhaps others, these is just what I figured out so far)
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4 speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
- moved vents from hard-top sides to rear door
- sound 'pods' vs sound 'bar' (or was that '02?)
- new rear seat folding mechanism
(perhaps others, these is just what I figured out so far)
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4 speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
10-06-2003, 08:12 PM
#28
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
'03 also added:
- moved vents from hard-top sides to rear door
- sound 'pods' vs sound 'bar' (or was that '02?)
- new rear seat folding mechanism
(perhaps others, these is just what I figured out so far)
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4 speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
- moved vents from hard-top sides to rear door
- sound 'pods' vs sound 'bar' (or was that '02?)
- new rear seat folding mechanism
(perhaps others, these is just what I figured out so far)
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> each model year brings many improvements, or at least things i consider to
> be "improvements". '98 brought rotary environmental controls. '99 lost the
> cam bolts on the axles. '00 replaced the ax15 with the nv3550 tranny. it
> also upgraded the ignition to operate without a distributor. '01 added a
> much improved soft top, as well as tinted windows and the trac-loc became
> standard on the d44 option. afaik there were no changes from '01 to '02
> (other than replacing forest green with shale green) and '03 added a 4 speed
> automatic, "inca gold" paint, "high back seats" (that totally suck if youre
> under 6'2"), and of course the rubicon option.
> what price range are you shopping in? when i start shopping for used tj's
> for my kids that will start driving in a few years, ill probably start
> around the '00-'01 year models as i believe their ignition systems to be
> superior and even more water proof than previous years.
>
>
10-06-2003, 08:32 PM
#29
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
"Rich" <rk911@ANTISPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> they act as a buffer against
> pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
> are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
> door.
<sarcasm>
yeah....who would want a "ding" on a wrangler? i park my crossways over 2
spaces like a "g" just to make sure.....
</sarcasm>
you _really_ sacrifice clearance over worrying about a parking lot ding?
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:7504ovoadnlrojrjjup4egnu7hgdbp7jqu@4ax.com...
> they act as a buffer against
> pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
> are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
> door.
<sarcasm>
yeah....who would want a "ding" on a wrangler? i park my crossways over 2
spaces like a "g" just to make sure.....
</sarcasm>
you _really_ sacrifice clearance over worrying about a parking lot ding?
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
10-06-2003, 08:32 PM
#30
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Re: Seeking Wrangler Advice
"Rich" <rk911@ANTISPAM.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7504ovoadnlrojrjjup4egnu7hgdbp7jqu@4ax.com...
> they act as a buffer against
> pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
> are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
> door.
<sarcasm>
yeah....who would want a "ding" on a wrangler? i park my crossways over 2
spaces like a "g" just to make sure.....
</sarcasm>
you _really_ sacrifice clearance over worrying about a parking lot ding?
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
news:7504ovoadnlrojrjjup4egnu7hgdbp7jqu@4ax.com...
> they act as a buffer against
> pings and dings from other car doors in parking lots. most doors that
> are sung open will strike the running board before they strike your
> door.
<sarcasm>
yeah....who would want a "ding" on a wrangler? i park my crossways over 2
spaces like a "g" just to make sure.....
</sarcasm>
you _really_ sacrifice clearance over worrying about a parking lot ding?
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
