Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
#31
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Steve W. wrote:
> Rear main seal is the one piece seal that closes the area between the
> engines crankshaft and the engine block. If this is a 4.0 engine this is
> a VERY common problem with them.
Not as common as a leak at the back of the rocker cover *mimicking* a rear
main seal leak, as others have pointed out.
> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
> > approx $150 to have done?
> 150 would be a bit high for just an injector cleaning, BUT if they are
> doing injector cleaning and top end cleaning then it isn't too bad.
Um...not. There is no such a thing as them "doing a top end cleaning,
too". The stuff they hook up to the fuel rail is injector and top-end
cleaner. So is the stuff in the bottle labelled "TECHRON" or the can
labelled "BG 44K" that you buy for $16 and pour in the fuel tank.
Even if we assume that removal and thorough cleaning of the throttle body
and AIS were included, $150 is kinda rich.
> Rear main seal is the one piece seal that closes the area between the
> engines crankshaft and the engine block. If this is a 4.0 engine this is
> a VERY common problem with them.
Not as common as a leak at the back of the rocker cover *mimicking* a rear
main seal leak, as others have pointed out.
> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
> > approx $150 to have done?
> 150 would be a bit high for just an injector cleaning, BUT if they are
> doing injector cleaning and top end cleaning then it isn't too bad.
Um...not. There is no such a thing as them "doing a top end cleaning,
too". The stuff they hook up to the fuel rail is injector and top-end
cleaner. So is the stuff in the bottle labelled "TECHRON" or the can
labelled "BG 44K" that you buy for $16 and pour in the fuel tank.
Even if we assume that removal and thorough cleaning of the throttle body
and AIS were included, $150 is kinda rich.
#32
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Steve W. wrote:
> Rear main seal is the one piece seal that closes the area between the
> engines crankshaft and the engine block. If this is a 4.0 engine this is
> a VERY common problem with them.
Not as common as a leak at the back of the rocker cover *mimicking* a rear
main seal leak, as others have pointed out.
> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
> > approx $150 to have done?
> 150 would be a bit high for just an injector cleaning, BUT if they are
> doing injector cleaning and top end cleaning then it isn't too bad.
Um...not. There is no such a thing as them "doing a top end cleaning,
too". The stuff they hook up to the fuel rail is injector and top-end
cleaner. So is the stuff in the bottle labelled "TECHRON" or the can
labelled "BG 44K" that you buy for $16 and pour in the fuel tank.
Even if we assume that removal and thorough cleaning of the throttle body
and AIS were included, $150 is kinda rich.
> Rear main seal is the one piece seal that closes the area between the
> engines crankshaft and the engine block. If this is a 4.0 engine this is
> a VERY common problem with them.
Not as common as a leak at the back of the rocker cover *mimicking* a rear
main seal leak, as others have pointed out.
> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
> > approx $150 to have done?
> 150 would be a bit high for just an injector cleaning, BUT if they are
> doing injector cleaning and top end cleaning then it isn't too bad.
Um...not. There is no such a thing as them "doing a top end cleaning,
too". The stuff they hook up to the fuel rail is injector and top-end
cleaner. So is the stuff in the bottle labelled "TECHRON" or the can
labelled "BG 44K" that you buy for $16 and pour in the fuel tank.
Even if we assume that removal and thorough cleaning of the throttle body
and AIS were included, $150 is kinda rich.
#33
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Steve W. wrote:
> Rear main seal is the one piece seal that closes the area between the
> engines crankshaft and the engine block. If this is a 4.0 engine this is
> a VERY common problem with them.
Not as common as a leak at the back of the rocker cover *mimicking* a rear
main seal leak, as others have pointed out.
> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
> > approx $150 to have done?
> 150 would be a bit high for just an injector cleaning, BUT if they are
> doing injector cleaning and top end cleaning then it isn't too bad.
Um...not. There is no such a thing as them "doing a top end cleaning,
too". The stuff they hook up to the fuel rail is injector and top-end
cleaner. So is the stuff in the bottle labelled "TECHRON" or the can
labelled "BG 44K" that you buy for $16 and pour in the fuel tank.
Even if we assume that removal and thorough cleaning of the throttle body
and AIS were included, $150 is kinda rich.
> Rear main seal is the one piece seal that closes the area between the
> engines crankshaft and the engine block. If this is a 4.0 engine this is
> a VERY common problem with them.
Not as common as a leak at the back of the rocker cover *mimicking* a rear
main seal leak, as others have pointed out.
> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
> > approx $150 to have done?
> 150 would be a bit high for just an injector cleaning, BUT if they are
> doing injector cleaning and top end cleaning then it isn't too bad.
Um...not. There is no such a thing as them "doing a top end cleaning,
too". The stuff they hook up to the fuel rail is injector and top-end
cleaner. So is the stuff in the bottle labelled "TECHRON" or the can
labelled "BG 44K" that you buy for $16 and pour in the fuel tank.
Even if we assume that removal and thorough cleaning of the throttle body
and AIS were included, $150 is kinda rich.
#34
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:WcOdnQEbgtTGP1DfRVn-1g@ez2.net...
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> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth approx
> > $150 to have done?
> >
>
> This is a giant bottle of snake oil. You can buy a few small bottles of
> snake oil at the auto parts store and pour one in with every fill up for the
> next several weeks.
Or just use Chevron gasoline... Shell gas also has
the high-tech additives in it now. This is one service
you don't need... major boondoggle.
__
Steve
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#35
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:WcOdnQEbgtTGP1DfRVn-1g@ez2.net...
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> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth approx
> > $150 to have done?
> >
>
> This is a giant bottle of snake oil. You can buy a few small bottles of
> snake oil at the auto parts store and pour one in with every fill up for the
> next several weeks.
Or just use Chevron gasoline... Shell gas also has
the high-tech additives in it now. This is one service
you don't need... major boondoggle.
__
Steve
..
#36
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:WcOdnQEbgtTGP1DfRVn-1g@ez2.net...
....
> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth approx
> > $150 to have done?
> >
>
> This is a giant bottle of snake oil. You can buy a few small bottles of
> snake oil at the auto parts store and pour one in with every fill up for the
> next several weeks.
Or just use Chevron gasoline... Shell gas also has
the high-tech additives in it now. This is one service
you don't need... major boondoggle.
__
Steve
..
#37
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:WcOdnQEbgtTGP1DfRVn-1g@ez2.net...
....
> > 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth approx
> > $150 to have done?
> >
>
> This is a giant bottle of snake oil. You can buy a few small bottles of
> snake oil at the auto parts store and pour one in with every fill up for the
> next several weeks.
Or just use Chevron gasoline... Shell gas also has
the high-tech additives in it now. This is one service
you don't need... major boondoggle.
__
Steve
..
#38
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
Daniel J. Stern did pass the time by typing:
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, DougW wrote:
>
>>> 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
>>> approx $150 to have done?
>
>> That's a can-o-cleaner they put into the fuel rail and run through your
>> engine, including running stuff down the throttle body. It cleans out
>> carbon deposits and fuel injectors. Not a bad thing and not
>> unreasonable for the price
>
> Are you high? There's nothing in that $150 "induction flush" that cannot
> be achieved with a $16 bottle of Chevron Techron or BG 44K.
I'm not high and that $16 bottle of techron has no where near the cleaning
capability of the stuff they feed directly into the rail. I prefer to use
this system though. http://www.motorvac.com/ Average cost is $99 and it
takes about half an hour.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, DougW wrote:
>
>>> 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
>>> approx $150 to have done?
>
>> That's a can-o-cleaner they put into the fuel rail and run through your
>> engine, including running stuff down the throttle body. It cleans out
>> carbon deposits and fuel injectors. Not a bad thing and not
>> unreasonable for the price
>
> Are you high? There's nothing in that $150 "induction flush" that cannot
> be achieved with a $16 bottle of Chevron Techron or BG 44K.
I'm not high and that $16 bottle of techron has no where near the cleaning
capability of the stuff they feed directly into the rail. I prefer to use
this system though. http://www.motorvac.com/ Average cost is $99 and it
takes about half an hour.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
#39
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
Daniel J. Stern did pass the time by typing:
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, DougW wrote:
>
>>> 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
>>> approx $150 to have done?
>
>> That's a can-o-cleaner they put into the fuel rail and run through your
>> engine, including running stuff down the throttle body. It cleans out
>> carbon deposits and fuel injectors. Not a bad thing and not
>> unreasonable for the price
>
> Are you high? There's nothing in that $150 "induction flush" that cannot
> be achieved with a $16 bottle of Chevron Techron or BG 44K.
I'm not high and that $16 bottle of techron has no where near the cleaning
capability of the stuff they feed directly into the rail. I prefer to use
this system though. http://www.motorvac.com/ Average cost is $99 and it
takes about half an hour.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, DougW wrote:
>
>>> 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
>>> approx $150 to have done?
>
>> That's a can-o-cleaner they put into the fuel rail and run through your
>> engine, including running stuff down the throttle body. It cleans out
>> carbon deposits and fuel injectors. Not a bad thing and not
>> unreasonable for the price
>
> Are you high? There's nothing in that $150 "induction flush" that cannot
> be achieved with a $16 bottle of Chevron Techron or BG 44K.
I'm not high and that $16 bottle of techron has no where near the cleaning
capability of the stuff they feed directly into the rail. I prefer to use
this system though. http://www.motorvac.com/ Average cost is $99 and it
takes about half an hour.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
#40
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
Daniel J. Stern did pass the time by typing:
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, DougW wrote:
>
>>> 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
>>> approx $150 to have done?
>
>> That's a can-o-cleaner they put into the fuel rail and run through your
>> engine, including running stuff down the throttle body. It cleans out
>> carbon deposits and fuel injectors. Not a bad thing and not
>> unreasonable for the price
>
> Are you high? There's nothing in that $150 "induction flush" that cannot
> be achieved with a $16 bottle of Chevron Techron or BG 44K.
I'm not high and that $16 bottle of techron has no where near the cleaning
capability of the stuff they feed directly into the rail. I prefer to use
this system though. http://www.motorvac.com/ Average cost is $99 and it
takes about half an hour.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, DougW wrote:
>
>>> 3) What is an "Induction Flush" how important is it? Is it worth
>>> approx $150 to have done?
>
>> That's a can-o-cleaner they put into the fuel rail and run through your
>> engine, including running stuff down the throttle body. It cleans out
>> carbon deposits and fuel injectors. Not a bad thing and not
>> unreasonable for the price
>
> Are you high? There's nothing in that $150 "induction flush" that cannot
> be achieved with a $16 bottle of Chevron Techron or BG 44K.
I'm not high and that $16 bottle of techron has no where near the cleaning
capability of the stuff they feed directly into the rail. I prefer to use
this system though. http://www.motorvac.com/ Average cost is $99 and it
takes about half an hour.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://members.***.net/wilsond
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!