Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:19:36 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
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> You're a farmer, and grow corn, barley or wheat?
> Yup, alcohol is the additive we added to a gasoline to absorb
>condensation.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
The closest I ever came to being a farmer was working on a catfish
farm one summer while in college. Unless you count a small beekeeping
hobby a number of years back! Sweetest tasting hobby I ever had! :)
Dan
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Hootowl wrote:
>>
>> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
>> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
>> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
>> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
>> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
>> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
>> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
>> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>>
>> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
>> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
>> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
>> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
>> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
>> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
>> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
>> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>>
>> Dan
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You're a farmer, and grow corn, barley or wheat?
> Yup, alcohol is the additive we added to a gasoline to absorb
>condensation.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
The closest I ever came to being a farmer was working on a catfish
farm one summer while in college. Unless you count a small beekeeping
hobby a number of years back! Sweetest tasting hobby I ever had! :)
Dan
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Hootowl wrote:
>>
>> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
>> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
>> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
>> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
>> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
>> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
>> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
>> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>>
>> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
>> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
>> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
>> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
>> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
>> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
>> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
>> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>>
>> Dan
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:19:36 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You're a farmer, and grow corn, barley or wheat?
> Yup, alcohol is the additive we added to a gasoline to absorb
>condensation.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
The closest I ever came to being a farmer was working on a catfish
farm one summer while in college. Unless you count a small beekeeping
hobby a number of years back! Sweetest tasting hobby I ever had! :)
Dan
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Hootowl wrote:
>>
>> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
>> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
>> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
>> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
>> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
>> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
>> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
>> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>>
>> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
>> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
>> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
>> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
>> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
>> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
>> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
>> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>>
>> Dan
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You're a farmer, and grow corn, barley or wheat?
> Yup, alcohol is the additive we added to a gasoline to absorb
>condensation.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
The closest I ever came to being a farmer was working on a catfish
farm one summer while in college. Unless you count a small beekeeping
hobby a number of years back! Sweetest tasting hobby I ever had! :)
Dan
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Hootowl wrote:
>>
>> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
>> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
>> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
>> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
>> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
>> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
>> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
>> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>>
>> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
>> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
>> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
>> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
>> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
>> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
>> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
>> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>>
>> Dan
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:19:36 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You're a farmer, and grow corn, barley or wheat?
> Yup, alcohol is the additive we added to a gasoline to absorb
>condensation.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
The closest I ever came to being a farmer was working on a catfish
farm one summer while in college. Unless you count a small beekeeping
hobby a number of years back! Sweetest tasting hobby I ever had! :)
Dan
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Hootowl wrote:
>>
>> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
>> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
>> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
>> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
>> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
>> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
>> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
>> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>>
>> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
>> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
>> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
>> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
>> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
>> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
>> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
>> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>>
>> Dan
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You're a farmer, and grow corn, barley or wheat?
> Yup, alcohol is the additive we added to a gasoline to absorb
>condensation.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
The closest I ever came to being a farmer was working on a catfish
farm one summer while in college. Unless you count a small beekeeping
hobby a number of years back! Sweetest tasting hobby I ever had! :)
Dan
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Hootowl wrote:
>>
>> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
>> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
>> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
>> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
>> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
>> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
>> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
>> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>>
>> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
>> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
>> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
>> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
>> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
>> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
>> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
>> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>>
>> Dan
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 01:19:36 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You're a farmer, and grow corn, barley or wheat?
> Yup, alcohol is the additive we added to a gasoline to absorb
>condensation.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
The closest I ever came to being a farmer was working on a catfish
farm one summer while in college. Unless you count a small beekeeping
hobby a number of years back! Sweetest tasting hobby I ever had! :)
Dan
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Hootowl wrote:
>>
>> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
>> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
>> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
>> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
>> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
>> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
>> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
>> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>>
>> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
>> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
>> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
>> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
>> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
>> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
>> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
>> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>>
>> Dan
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> You're a farmer, and grow corn, barley or wheat?
> Yup, alcohol is the additive we added to a gasoline to absorb
>condensation.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
The closest I ever came to being a farmer was working on a catfish
farm one summer while in college. Unless you count a small beekeeping
hobby a number of years back! Sweetest tasting hobby I ever had! :)
Dan
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>Hootowl wrote:
>>
>> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
>> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
>> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
>> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
>> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
>> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
>> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
>> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>>
>> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
>> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
>> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
>> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
>> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
>> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
>> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
>> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>>
>> Dan
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
The ethyl alcohol limit in gasoline is 10%, you can only use 5% methyl
(wood) alcohol.
Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
blind you...
Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fl11d1t1ruvd019lsgrs5nhvdfasldj2v7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC), twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2005-07-09 42CE8018.22BE94DD@sympatico.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,rec.autos.tech
>> >Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>[snip]
>>
>> >Since Bush Gas, I haven't been able to run Texaco, Chevron, or Shell
>> >regular in a 95 4.0 without mild ping. Recently the local Valero
>> >station ran out of midgrade, and it seems that their regular will
>> >actually run without ping.
>>I recently noticed the nearby (40 miles away) Diamond Shamrock (soon
>>to be called Valero) pumps have sprouted gasohol stickers. Small-town
>>station, no known additive strictures. Seems to run OK, unlike
>>Albuquerque wintertime-mandated gasohol, which noticably slows my
>>Honda Civic.
>>
>>Comment?
>
> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>
> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>
> Dan
>>
>>Tom Willmon
>>near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
>
(wood) alcohol.
Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
blind you...
Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fl11d1t1ruvd019lsgrs5nhvdfasldj2v7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC), twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2005-07-09 42CE8018.22BE94DD@sympatico.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,rec.autos.tech
>> >Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>[snip]
>>
>> >Since Bush Gas, I haven't been able to run Texaco, Chevron, or Shell
>> >regular in a 95 4.0 without mild ping. Recently the local Valero
>> >station ran out of midgrade, and it seems that their regular will
>> >actually run without ping.
>>I recently noticed the nearby (40 miles away) Diamond Shamrock (soon
>>to be called Valero) pumps have sprouted gasohol stickers. Small-town
>>station, no known additive strictures. Seems to run OK, unlike
>>Albuquerque wintertime-mandated gasohol, which noticably slows my
>>Honda Civic.
>>
>>Comment?
>
> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>
> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>
> Dan
>>
>>Tom Willmon
>>near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
>
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
The ethyl alcohol limit in gasoline is 10%, you can only use 5% methyl
(wood) alcohol.
Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
blind you...
Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fl11d1t1ruvd019lsgrs5nhvdfasldj2v7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC), twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2005-07-09 42CE8018.22BE94DD@sympatico.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,rec.autos.tech
>> >Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>[snip]
>>
>> >Since Bush Gas, I haven't been able to run Texaco, Chevron, or Shell
>> >regular in a 95 4.0 without mild ping. Recently the local Valero
>> >station ran out of midgrade, and it seems that their regular will
>> >actually run without ping.
>>I recently noticed the nearby (40 miles away) Diamond Shamrock (soon
>>to be called Valero) pumps have sprouted gasohol stickers. Small-town
>>station, no known additive strictures. Seems to run OK, unlike
>>Albuquerque wintertime-mandated gasohol, which noticably slows my
>>Honda Civic.
>>
>>Comment?
>
> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>
> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>
> Dan
>>
>>Tom Willmon
>>near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
>
(wood) alcohol.
Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
blind you...
Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fl11d1t1ruvd019lsgrs5nhvdfasldj2v7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC), twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2005-07-09 42CE8018.22BE94DD@sympatico.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,rec.autos.tech
>> >Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>[snip]
>>
>> >Since Bush Gas, I haven't been able to run Texaco, Chevron, or Shell
>> >regular in a 95 4.0 without mild ping. Recently the local Valero
>> >station ran out of midgrade, and it seems that their regular will
>> >actually run without ping.
>>I recently noticed the nearby (40 miles away) Diamond Shamrock (soon
>>to be called Valero) pumps have sprouted gasohol stickers. Small-town
>>station, no known additive strictures. Seems to run OK, unlike
>>Albuquerque wintertime-mandated gasohol, which noticably slows my
>>Honda Civic.
>>
>>Comment?
>
> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>
> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>
> Dan
>>
>>Tom Willmon
>>near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
>
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
The ethyl alcohol limit in gasoline is 10%, you can only use 5% methyl
(wood) alcohol.
Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
blind you...
Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fl11d1t1ruvd019lsgrs5nhvdfasldj2v7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC), twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2005-07-09 42CE8018.22BE94DD@sympatico.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,rec.autos.tech
>> >Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>[snip]
>>
>> >Since Bush Gas, I haven't been able to run Texaco, Chevron, or Shell
>> >regular in a 95 4.0 without mild ping. Recently the local Valero
>> >station ran out of midgrade, and it seems that their regular will
>> >actually run without ping.
>>I recently noticed the nearby (40 miles away) Diamond Shamrock (soon
>>to be called Valero) pumps have sprouted gasohol stickers. Small-town
>>station, no known additive strictures. Seems to run OK, unlike
>>Albuquerque wintertime-mandated gasohol, which noticably slows my
>>Honda Civic.
>>
>>Comment?
>
> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>
> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>
> Dan
>>
>>Tom Willmon
>>near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
>
(wood) alcohol.
Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
blind you...
Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fl11d1t1ruvd019lsgrs5nhvdfasldj2v7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC), twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2005-07-09 42CE8018.22BE94DD@sympatico.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,rec.autos.tech
>> >Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>[snip]
>>
>> >Since Bush Gas, I haven't been able to run Texaco, Chevron, or Shell
>> >regular in a 95 4.0 without mild ping. Recently the local Valero
>> >station ran out of midgrade, and it seems that their regular will
>> >actually run without ping.
>>I recently noticed the nearby (40 miles away) Diamond Shamrock (soon
>>to be called Valero) pumps have sprouted gasohol stickers. Small-town
>>station, no known additive strictures. Seems to run OK, unlike
>>Albuquerque wintertime-mandated gasohol, which noticably slows my
>>Honda Civic.
>>
>>Comment?
>
> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>
> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>
> Dan
>>
>>Tom Willmon
>>near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
>
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
The ethyl alcohol limit in gasoline is 10%, you can only use 5% methyl
(wood) alcohol.
Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
blind you...
Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fl11d1t1ruvd019lsgrs5nhvdfasldj2v7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC), twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2005-07-09 42CE8018.22BE94DD@sympatico.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,rec.autos.tech
>> >Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>[snip]
>>
>> >Since Bush Gas, I haven't been able to run Texaco, Chevron, or Shell
>> >regular in a 95 4.0 without mild ping. Recently the local Valero
>> >station ran out of midgrade, and it seems that their regular will
>> >actually run without ping.
>>I recently noticed the nearby (40 miles away) Diamond Shamrock (soon
>>to be called Valero) pumps have sprouted gasohol stickers. Small-town
>>station, no known additive strictures. Seems to run OK, unlike
>>Albuquerque wintertime-mandated gasohol, which noticably slows my
>>Honda Civic.
>>
>>Comment?
>
> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>
> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>
> Dan
>>
>>Tom Willmon
>>near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
>
(wood) alcohol.
Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
blind you...
Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:fl11d1t1ruvd019lsgrs5nhvdfasldj2v7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 9 Jul 2005 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC), twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>On 2005-07-09 42CE8018.22BE94DD@sympatico.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+******,rec.autos.tech
>> >Mike Romain proclaimed:
>>[snip]
>>
>> >Since Bush Gas, I haven't been able to run Texaco, Chevron, or Shell
>> >regular in a 95 4.0 without mild ping. Recently the local Valero
>> >station ran out of midgrade, and it seems that their regular will
>> >actually run without ping.
>>I recently noticed the nearby (40 miles away) Diamond Shamrock (soon
>>to be called Valero) pumps have sprouted gasohol stickers. Small-town
>>station, no known additive strictures. Seems to run OK, unlike
>>Albuquerque wintertime-mandated gasohol, which noticably slows my
>>Honda Civic.
>>
>>Comment?
>
> I remember gasohol from back in the '70's/early 80's. Smoothest
> burning stuff since Esso Extra and Gulf NO-Nox! No loss of mileage in
> my '65 IHC Scout, and never any water in the gas, either. It kept the
> fuel system squeaky clean, too, and gave a decent octane boost.
> (Change the fuel filter after the second tankful due to all the trash
> it removes.) It was a mixture of gasoline and 10% anhydrous ethyl
> alcohol (ethanol). The oil companies hated it, and launched a
> short-lived misinformation campaign against it. But drivers loved it.
>
> I must say that the gasoline sold then was different-the stuff we buy
> now doesn't even smell remotely the same. I often wonder just how
> much real gasoline is in a gallon of fuel now. Real gasoline is
> primarily a mixture of n-heptane, octane, and nonane. BTW, all the
> racing alcohol I've seen (and, admittedly, that isn't much) is
> methanol, which is hard on rubber fuel line components but is about
> the highest octane fuel around. It is often mixed with other fuels,
> and those mixtures require a lot of modification to the fuel system.
>
> Dan
>>
>>Tom Willmon
>>near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA
>>
>>Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered
>
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Re: Seeking additional info abour repairs to a Jeep
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 04:03:44 -0400, "BillyRay"
<jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote:
>The ethyl alcohol limit in gasoline is 10%, you can only use 5% methyl
>(wood) alcohol.
>
>Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
>drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
>blind you...
By destroying your optic nerves. And just slightly more will paralyze
you, and a slight bit more than that will kill you outright. It's
vapors are also poisonous. It is also used as a paint stripper.
So far as I know, there was no alcoholic beverage tax on ethanol
produced for use as a fuel back in the gasohol days. I do know that
producers had to detail their procedures to keep people from drinking
it in order to get a permit to make it.
Dan
>
>Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
>I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
>
>
<jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote:
>The ethyl alcohol limit in gasoline is 10%, you can only use 5% methyl
>(wood) alcohol.
>
>Methanol is cheaper and also is exempt from Revenue Tax because it is not
>drinkable.... well.... you shouldn't drink it as it is poisonous and will
>blind you...
By destroying your optic nerves. And just slightly more will paralyze
you, and a slight bit more than that will kill you outright. It's
vapors are also poisonous. It is also used as a paint stripper.
So far as I know, there was no alcoholic beverage tax on ethanol
produced for use as a fuel back in the gasohol days. I do know that
producers had to detail their procedures to keep people from drinking
it in order to get a permit to make it.
Dan
>
>Methanol is also harder on the plastic and rubber components of your car but
>I am assuming that the makeup of the parts now is impervious to alcohols.
>
>
