See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
05-16-2007, 04:00 PM
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See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
euros).
DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
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the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
euros).
DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
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05-16-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>euros).
> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>--
I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
return to pay their own investors.
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TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>euros).
> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>--
I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
return to pay their own investors.
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TheSnoMan.com
05-16-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>euros).
> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>--
I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
return to pay their own investors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>euros).
> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>--
I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
return to pay their own investors.
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TheSnoMan.com
05-16-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>euros).
> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>--
I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
return to pay their own investors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>euros).
> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>--
I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
return to pay their own investors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-16-2007, 06:20 PM
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Re: See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>euros).
> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>--
I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
return to pay their own investors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>euros).
> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>--
I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
return to pay their own investors.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-16-2007, 07:22 PM
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Re: See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
With all that said and if I was a betting man, the pensions and all the
overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
Coasty
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>>euros).
>> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>>--
>
>
> I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
> obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
> finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
> You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
> to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
> be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
> starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
> 1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
> themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
> their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
> because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
> are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
> faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
> return to pay their own investors.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
Coasty
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>>euros).
>> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>>--
>
>
> I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
> obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
> finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
> You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
> to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
> be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
> starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
> 1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
> themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
> their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
> because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
> are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
> faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
> return to pay their own investors.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
05-16-2007, 07:22 PM
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Re: See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
With all that said and if I was a betting man, the pensions and all the
overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
Coasty
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:0b0n4357vb1b0br0pjosp8n5mssi0p5c5f@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>>euros).
>> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>>--
>
>
> I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
> obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
> finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
> You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
> to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
> be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
> starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
> 1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
> themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
> their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
> because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
> are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
> faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
> return to pay their own investors.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
Coasty
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>>euros).
>> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>>--
>
>
> I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
> obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
> finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
> You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
> to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
> be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
> starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
> 1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
> themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
> their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
> because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
> are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
> faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
> return to pay their own investors.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
05-16-2007, 07:22 PM
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Re: See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
With all that said and if I was a betting man, the pensions and all the
overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
Coasty
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:0b0n4357vb1b0br0pjosp8n5mssi0p5c5f@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>>euros).
>> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>>--
>
>
> I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
> obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
> finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
> You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
> to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
> be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
> starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
> 1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
> themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
> their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
> because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
> are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
> faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
> return to pay their own investors.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
Coasty
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>>euros).
>> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>>--
>
>
> I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
> obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
> finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
> You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
> to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
> be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
> starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
> 1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
> themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
> their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
> because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
> are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
> faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
> return to pay their own investors.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
05-16-2007, 07:22 PM
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Re: See the new Cerberus Wrangler X
With all that said and if I was a betting man, the pensions and all the
overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
Coasty
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>>euros).
>> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>>--
>
>
> I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
> obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
> finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
> You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
> to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
> be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
> starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
> 1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
> themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
> their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
> because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
> are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
> faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
> return to pay their own investors.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
Coasty
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:00:33 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> Private equity group Cerberus Capital Management will take control of
>>the Chrysler group in a transaction valued at $7.45 billion (5.5 billion
>>euros).
>> DaimlerChrysler AG announced the Cerberus deal this morning. An
>>affiliate of Cerberus will acquire 80.1 percent of Chrysler, while
>>DaimlerChrysler will retain 19.9 percent.
>>--
>
>
> I was reading about the true cost of the sale. After Daimler pays its
> obligations (and most of sales price money goes back to chysler
> finaical unit) it will cost Dailmer 500 million to get rid of Chysler.
> You have to be looking at some serious future red ink to be motivated
> to in effect pay someone 500 million to take it off your hands. I may
> be wrong but I think their days are numbered and the buzzards are
> starting to circle in distance. Cerberus has only been around since
> 1992 and the company itself only made about 180 million last year for
> themselves after paying investors. They do not have deep pockets of
> their own and though it is promoted as private in reality it is not
> because Cerberus is using others money to fund this venture and they
> are going to want a return on their investment. Chysler would have
> faired better maybe if it truely was a private buyer no dependant on
> return to pay their own investors.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
05-16-2007, 09:35 PM
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On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:22:21 -0400, "Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net>
wrote:
>With all that said and if I was a betting man, the pensions and all the
>overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
I suspect you are right. I loom for them to try to break it up after a
while to try to get theor money back. This is not a good time to be
investing in or learning the auto bussiness. They are either going to
force major consessions from unions or go banlrupt and have a fire
sale.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>With all that said and if I was a betting man, the pensions and all the
>overhead will be go by by when they file chapter 11 and reorganize.
I suspect you are right. I loom for them to try to break it up after a
while to try to get theor money back. This is not a good time to be
investing in or learning the auto bussiness. They are either going to
force major consessions from unions or go banlrupt and have a fire
sale.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com