Seat Broke
12-03-2005, 05:23 PM
#21
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Re: Seat Broke
I ended up replacing my cable with a bicycle brake cable. Loop the cable
through the holes in the lever, secure firmly, and secure the cable housing
to the seat frame.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:tbdjf.18425$Lw5.3386@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> The quality of the pull mechanism is laughable - there is a wire which
> goes
> into a cheap plastic box and engages into a plastic slider inside. From
> the
> other
> end of the slider there are two wires coming out. The problem is that the
> wires engage into the slider by a push fit, and wear causes them to pop
> out.
> I cut the a hatch into the plastic box , made a slider out of a bit of
> scrap
> metal properly folding it over all 3 wires so that the wires could move
> within it, but not
> leaving enough room for the end stops to pop out.
> Then I closed the hatch that I had cut, and braced the plastic box with a
> bit of
> sheet metal which I secured with cable ties.
> It has lasted 3.5 years so far, which is longer than the original did.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:b2ajf.25946$%i.20818@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> Ok guys, I know I've seen posts/sites about this, I just can't seem to
> find
>> the info. Guess I'm not wording the search properly.
>>
>> My front passenger seat broke today. Well, actually, the cable that
> allows
>> it to fold all the way forward for access to the back seat must've broke.
>> Pulling on the tab and/or the lever doesn't do anything. The seat back
> will
>> come forward, but it won't rotate on the frame.
>>
>> Anyone have this happen? Bill, have any links? I'm dying to get this
>> fixed -- my son rides around with me a lot so I need to get easy access
>> to
>> his car seat in the back!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>
>
>
through the holes in the lever, secure firmly, and secure the cable housing
to the seat frame.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:tbdjf.18425$Lw5.3386@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> The quality of the pull mechanism is laughable - there is a wire which
> goes
> into a cheap plastic box and engages into a plastic slider inside. From
> the
> other
> end of the slider there are two wires coming out. The problem is that the
> wires engage into the slider by a push fit, and wear causes them to pop
> out.
> I cut the a hatch into the plastic box , made a slider out of a bit of
> scrap
> metal properly folding it over all 3 wires so that the wires could move
> within it, but not
> leaving enough room for the end stops to pop out.
> Then I closed the hatch that I had cut, and braced the plastic box with a
> bit of
> sheet metal which I secured with cable ties.
> It has lasted 3.5 years so far, which is longer than the original did.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:b2ajf.25946$%i.20818@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> Ok guys, I know I've seen posts/sites about this, I just can't seem to
> find
>> the info. Guess I'm not wording the search properly.
>>
>> My front passenger seat broke today. Well, actually, the cable that
> allows
>> it to fold all the way forward for access to the back seat must've broke.
>> Pulling on the tab and/or the lever doesn't do anything. The seat back
> will
>> come forward, but it won't rotate on the frame.
>>
>> Anyone have this happen? Bill, have any links? I'm dying to get this
>> fixed -- my son rides around with me a lot so I need to get easy access
>> to
>> his car seat in the back!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>
>
>
12-03-2005, 05:23 PM
#22
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Posts: n/a
Re: Seat Broke
I ended up replacing my cable with a bicycle brake cable. Loop the cable
through the holes in the lever, secure firmly, and secure the cable housing
to the seat frame.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:tbdjf.18425$Lw5.3386@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> The quality of the pull mechanism is laughable - there is a wire which
> goes
> into a cheap plastic box and engages into a plastic slider inside. From
> the
> other
> end of the slider there are two wires coming out. The problem is that the
> wires engage into the slider by a push fit, and wear causes them to pop
> out.
> I cut the a hatch into the plastic box , made a slider out of a bit of
> scrap
> metal properly folding it over all 3 wires so that the wires could move
> within it, but not
> leaving enough room for the end stops to pop out.
> Then I closed the hatch that I had cut, and braced the plastic box with a
> bit of
> sheet metal which I secured with cable ties.
> It has lasted 3.5 years so far, which is longer than the original did.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:b2ajf.25946$%i.20818@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> Ok guys, I know I've seen posts/sites about this, I just can't seem to
> find
>> the info. Guess I'm not wording the search properly.
>>
>> My front passenger seat broke today. Well, actually, the cable that
> allows
>> it to fold all the way forward for access to the back seat must've broke.
>> Pulling on the tab and/or the lever doesn't do anything. The seat back
> will
>> come forward, but it won't rotate on the frame.
>>
>> Anyone have this happen? Bill, have any links? I'm dying to get this
>> fixed -- my son rides around with me a lot so I need to get easy access
>> to
>> his car seat in the back!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>
>
>
through the holes in the lever, secure firmly, and secure the cable housing
to the seat frame.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:tbdjf.18425$Lw5.3386@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> The quality of the pull mechanism is laughable - there is a wire which
> goes
> into a cheap plastic box and engages into a plastic slider inside. From
> the
> other
> end of the slider there are two wires coming out. The problem is that the
> wires engage into the slider by a push fit, and wear causes them to pop
> out.
> I cut the a hatch into the plastic box , made a slider out of a bit of
> scrap
> metal properly folding it over all 3 wires so that the wires could move
> within it, but not
> leaving enough room for the end stops to pop out.
> Then I closed the hatch that I had cut, and braced the plastic box with a
> bit of
> sheet metal which I secured with cable ties.
> It has lasted 3.5 years so far, which is longer than the original did.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:b2ajf.25946$%i.20818@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> Ok guys, I know I've seen posts/sites about this, I just can't seem to
> find
>> the info. Guess I'm not wording the search properly.
>>
>> My front passenger seat broke today. Well, actually, the cable that
> allows
>> it to fold all the way forward for access to the back seat must've broke.
>> Pulling on the tab and/or the lever doesn't do anything. The seat back
> will
>> come forward, but it won't rotate on the frame.
>>
>> Anyone have this happen? Bill, have any links? I'm dying to get this
>> fixed -- my son rides around with me a lot so I need to get easy access
>> to
>> his car seat in the back!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>>
>>
>
>
12-03-2005, 06:07 PM
#23
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Re: Seat Broke
Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
'features'.
They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
really needed to be messed with?
How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
guess.
latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
'features'.
They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
really needed to be messed with?
How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
guess.
12-03-2005, 06:07 PM
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: Seat Broke
Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
'features'.
They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
really needed to be messed with?
How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
guess.
latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
'features'.
They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
really needed to be messed with?
How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
guess.
12-03-2005, 06:07 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Seat Broke
Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
'features'.
They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
really needed to be messed with?
How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
guess.
latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
'features'.
They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
really needed to be messed with?
How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
guess.
12-03-2005, 10:52 PM
#26
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Re: Seat Broke
How many parts are interchangeable on ANY two vehicles built at least a decade
apart?
In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "yjarray"
wrote:
>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>
>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>'features'.
>
>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>really needed to be messed with?
>
>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>guess.
apart?
In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "yjarray"
wrote:
>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>
>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>'features'.
>
>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>really needed to be messed with?
>
>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>guess.
12-03-2005, 10:52 PM
#27
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Re: Seat Broke
How many parts are interchangeable on ANY two vehicles built at least a decade
apart?
In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "yjarray"
wrote:
>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>
>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>'features'.
>
>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>really needed to be messed with?
>
>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>guess.
apart?
In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "yjarray"
wrote:
>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>
>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>'features'.
>
>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>really needed to be messed with?
>
>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>guess.
12-03-2005, 10:52 PM
#28
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Re: Seat Broke
How many parts are interchangeable on ANY two vehicles built at least a decade
apart?
In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "yjarray"
wrote:
>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>
>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>'features'.
>
>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>really needed to be messed with?
>
>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>guess.
apart?
In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>, "yjarray"
wrote:
>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>
>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>'features'.
>
>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>really needed to be messed with?
>
>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>guess.
12-03-2005, 11:13 PM
#29
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Re: Seat Broke
Lots of them in the 17 years the XJ was being built
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:ulp4p1t1dqdo8m4sj2j69626s03u455mn8@4ax.com...
> How many parts are interchangeable on ANY two vehicles built at least a
> decade
> apart?
>
> In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>,
> "yjarray"
> wrote:
>
>>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>>
>>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>>'features'.
>>
>>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>>really needed to be messed with?
>>
>>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>>guess.
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:ulp4p1t1dqdo8m4sj2j69626s03u455mn8@4ax.com...
> How many parts are interchangeable on ANY two vehicles built at least a
> decade
> apart?
>
> In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>,
> "yjarray"
> wrote:
>
>>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>>
>>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>>'features'.
>>
>>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>>really needed to be messed with?
>>
>>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>>guess.
12-03-2005, 11:13 PM
#30
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Re: Seat Broke
Lots of them in the 17 years the XJ was being built
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:ulp4p1t1dqdo8m4sj2j69626s03u455mn8@4ax.com...
> How many parts are interchangeable on ANY two vehicles built at least a
> decade
> apart?
>
> In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>,
> "yjarray"
> wrote:
>
>>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>>
>>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>>'features'.
>>
>>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>>really needed to be messed with?
>>
>>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>>guess.
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:ulp4p1t1dqdo8m4sj2j69626s03u455mn8@4ax.com...
> How many parts are interchangeable on ANY two vehicles built at least a
> decade
> apart?
>
> In message <1133651239.395994.252140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups .com>,
> "yjarray"
> wrote:
>
>>Why do manufacturers feel a need to change a working design? The old
>>latch was very sturdy and didn't need to be changed.
>>
>>I wish they'd 'redesign' Jeeps by fixing known bugs, not by adding
>>'features'.
>>
>>They could have just taken the old CJ and added a galvanized body,
>>better heat, coil-spring suspension, and fuel-injection. What else
>>really needed to be messed with?
>>
>>How many parts on a TJ are interchangeable with a CJ? Not many, I'd
>>guess.