Schumacher wire feed welder
08-16-2003, 02:20 PM
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Schumacher wire feed welder
I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
need it for little weld jobs.
Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
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wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
need it for little weld jobs.
Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
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08-16-2003, 03:04 PM
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Re: Schumacher wire feed welder
I can't answer your question but I have a Lincoln 110 volt welder that plugs
into a 20 amp outlet, and I can tell you that you will be sorry if you don't
get a welder with at least the option to use solid wire with gas. Flux core
wire is OK for some jobs, but you won't weld sheet metal or even exhaust
pipe with it.
Earle
"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
> wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
> limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
> easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
> flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
> need it for little weld jobs.
>
> Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
>
>
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into a 20 amp outlet, and I can tell you that you will be sorry if you don't
get a welder with at least the option to use solid wire with gas. Flux core
wire is OK for some jobs, but you won't weld sheet metal or even exhaust
pipe with it.
Earle
"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
> wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
> limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
> easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
> flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
> need it for little weld jobs.
>
> Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
>
>
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08-16-2003, 03:41 PM
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I have a low amp setting on my Campbell Hausfeld flux core wire feed and
it does a nice job on sheet metal. It also cuts sheet metal pretty good
on high too, so if I had a rust chunk I wanted to cut out to replace
away it goes.
The welder does work fine as a pusher, it makes a nice puddle, but takes
some practice with the wire speed settings.
Mine also plugs into a 20 amp circuit and works on a decent extension
cord fine.
Mike
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88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I can't answer your question but I have a Lincoln 110 volt welder that plugs
> into a 20 amp outlet, and I can tell you that you will be sorry if you don't
> get a welder with at least the option to use solid wire with gas. Flux core
> wire is OK for some jobs, but you won't weld sheet metal or even exhaust
> pipe with it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
> news:3f3e75d9$1_2@nntp2.nac.net...
> > I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
> > wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
> > limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
> > easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
> > flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
> > need it for little weld jobs.
> >
> > Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
> >
> >
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it does a nice job on sheet metal. It also cuts sheet metal pretty good
on high too, so if I had a rust chunk I wanted to cut out to replace
away it goes.
The welder does work fine as a pusher, it makes a nice puddle, but takes
some practice with the wire speed settings.
Mine also plugs into a 20 amp circuit and works on a decent extension
cord fine.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I can't answer your question but I have a Lincoln 110 volt welder that plugs
> into a 20 amp outlet, and I can tell you that you will be sorry if you don't
> get a welder with at least the option to use solid wire with gas. Flux core
> wire is OK for some jobs, but you won't weld sheet metal or even exhaust
> pipe with it.
>
> Earle
>
> "Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> > I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
> > wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
> > limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
> > easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
> > flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
> > need it for little weld jobs.
> >
> > Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
> >
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08-16-2003, 04:05 PM
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"Peter Parker" <nospam@zero.com> wrote in message
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> I want to get into welding
awesome! there is nothing i find more gratifying than welding....its my
selfish little pleasure.
> I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
> wire feed welder.
you arent looking at much. sorry. as a "professional" welder i have higher
standards than a typical home type welder would, but even a home use welder
deserves better.
> It looks like something that will work with my
> limited 100Amp house service.
most _any_ welder will work on a 100 amp service, so long as you arent
running the stove, the dryer, and the heat pump at the same time.
> The
> flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
> need it for little weld jobs.
unless youre in a very windy environment use gmaw ("mig") welding instead.
in the end youll be happier.
> Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
possibly century, but any major brand like lincoln or miller isnt going to
build crap. i encourage you to explore your options a little further before
purchasing the unit youre looking at. lincoln and miller both build entry
level units that may be a little more expensive than the one youre looking
at, but in the end youll be glad you got a decent welder to start with. if
you never listen to another thing i say, listen to me here. buy miller
(although lincoln is acceptable). for a homeowner that doesnt get bit by
the welding bug, i recommend this unit
http://millerwelds.com/products/mig/millermatic_135/ (up to 3/16"
capability) or this unit
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...llermatic_175/ (up to 1/4"
capability). for the homeowner or professional that wants to be a welding
fool, i recommend this unit
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...llermatic_210/ (what i use at home
unless im "stick" or "tig" welding).
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> I want to get into welding
awesome! there is nothing i find more gratifying than welding....its my
selfish little pleasure.
> I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
> wire feed welder.
you arent looking at much. sorry. as a "professional" welder i have higher
standards than a typical home type welder would, but even a home use welder
deserves better.
> It looks like something that will work with my
> limited 100Amp house service.
most _any_ welder will work on a 100 amp service, so long as you arent
running the stove, the dryer, and the heat pump at the same time.
> The
> flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
> need it for little weld jobs.
unless youre in a very windy environment use gmaw ("mig") welding instead.
in the end youll be happier.
> Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
possibly century, but any major brand like lincoln or miller isnt going to
build crap. i encourage you to explore your options a little further before
purchasing the unit youre looking at. lincoln and miller both build entry
level units that may be a little more expensive than the one youre looking
at, but in the end youll be glad you got a decent welder to start with. if
you never listen to another thing i say, listen to me here. buy miller
(although lincoln is acceptable). for a homeowner that doesnt get bit by
the welding bug, i recommend this unit
http://millerwelds.com/products/mig/millermatic_135/ (up to 3/16"
capability) or this unit
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...llermatic_175/ (up to 1/4"
capability). for the homeowner or professional that wants to be a welding
fool, i recommend this unit
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...llermatic_210/ (what i use at home
unless im "stick" or "tig" welding).
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08-16-2003, 04:10 PM
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Re: Schumacher wire feed welder
"Nathan W. Collier" <abuse@A0L.com> wrote in message
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> if
> you never listen to another thing i say, listen to me here. buy miller
worth mentioning, dont be thrown by the "list" price listed on the miller
website. subtract about 25-30% from that to get a realistic price on what
you can expect to pay. the last millermatic 210 i bought i got for $1095 +
tax and the miller website lists it for about $1500.
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> if
> you never listen to another thing i say, listen to me here. buy miller
worth mentioning, dont be thrown by the "list" price listed on the miller
website. subtract about 25-30% from that to get a realistic price on what
you can expect to pay. the last millermatic 210 i bought i got for $1095 +
tax and the miller website lists it for about $1500.
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08-16-2003, 06:14 PM
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Re: Schumacher wire feed welder
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> ---- Nathan, we are talking $250.00 units here
and thats the problem right there. with welding equipment (like most other
things), you get what you pay for. whats another $150 if it will get you a
quality tool that will last "forever"? the schumacher line doesnt give you
any room for growth as a welder. switching over to gmaw isnt possible, nor
is adding a spool gun for aluminum. on top of all its other limitations, it
has "self adjusting wire speed". wire speed is absolutely critical in fine
tuning final amperage and without that ability (especially with an
inexperienced welder) there is a lot of room for error. im also curious
that i cant find any published duty cycle. i _know_ a lincoln or a miller
will live up to the listed duty cycle, and i know they will last "forever".
aside from its limitations, the quality of the circuitry is poor in walmart
type welders. consistency is not comparable to a machine of comparable size
by a real welding equipment manufacturer. ive seen xray shots of beads laid
by walmart welders beside machines made by miller or lincoln and that tells
the tale in terms of quality of the weld.
there are many tools where ill cut corners where i can, but welding
equipment is not one of them.
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> ---- Nathan, we are talking $250.00 units here
and thats the problem right there. with welding equipment (like most other
things), you get what you pay for. whats another $150 if it will get you a
quality tool that will last "forever"? the schumacher line doesnt give you
any room for growth as a welder. switching over to gmaw isnt possible, nor
is adding a spool gun for aluminum. on top of all its other limitations, it
has "self adjusting wire speed". wire speed is absolutely critical in fine
tuning final amperage and without that ability (especially with an
inexperienced welder) there is a lot of room for error. im also curious
that i cant find any published duty cycle. i _know_ a lincoln or a miller
will live up to the listed duty cycle, and i know they will last "forever".
aside from its limitations, the quality of the circuitry is poor in walmart
type welders. consistency is not comparable to a machine of comparable size
by a real welding equipment manufacturer. ive seen xray shots of beads laid
by walmart welders beside machines made by miller or lincoln and that tells
the tale in terms of quality of the weld.
there are many tools where ill cut corners where i can, but welding
equipment is not one of them.
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http://7SlotGrille.com
08-16-2003, 10:47 PM
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Re: Schumacher wire feed welder
On 16 Aug 2003 14:20:09 -0400, nospam@zero.com (Peter Parker) wrote:
>I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
>wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
>limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
>easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
>flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
>need it for little weld jobs.
>
>Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
I would suggest you look at a miller maxstar 140 or 150. This is a DC
TIG/STICK welder, and with the addition of a Ready Welder spool gun
you can also mig and flux core. Welding is no place for Taiwan tools.
-Joe
>I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
>wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
>limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
>easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
>flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
>need it for little weld jobs.
>
>Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
I would suggest you look at a miller maxstar 140 or 150. This is a DC
TIG/STICK welder, and with the addition of a Ready Welder spool gun
you can also mig and flux core. Welding is no place for Taiwan tools.
-Joe
08-16-2003, 11:58 PM
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"Joseph" <joe@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
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> I would suggest you look at a miller maxstar 140 or 150.
ouch....now youre talking $1000!
although i agree with the recommendation. its an unbelievable little
machine. the only thing i dont like about it is the lack of foot controls
and high frequency.
> Welding is no place for Taiwan tools.
agreed!
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> I would suggest you look at a miller maxstar 140 or 150.
ouch....now youre talking $1000!
although i agree with the recommendation. its an unbelievable little
machine. the only thing i dont like about it is the lack of foot controls
and high frequency.
> Welding is no place for Taiwan tools.
agreed!
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08-17-2003, 08:35 PM
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Re: Schumacher wire feed welder
In article <vrqtjv4g2lnr4l2sbdo6dsklentrgdd8ad@4ax.com>,
Joseph <joe@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
>On 16 Aug 2003 14:20:09 -0400, nospam@zero.com (Peter Parker) wrote:
>
>>I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
>>wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
>>limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
>>easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
>>flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
>>need it for little weld jobs.
>>
>>Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
>
>I would suggest you look at a miller maxstar 140 or 150. This is a DC
>TIG/STICK welder, and with the addition of a Ready Welder spool gun
>you can also mig and flux core. Welding is no place for Taiwan tools.
>-Joe
Right but first I would have to upgrade my electric service. :-( I also
want to get a oil compressor and a quite shop vac. :-) I already have
my grinding tool which helps out with cutting, grinding and sanding.
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Joseph <joe@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
>On 16 Aug 2003 14:20:09 -0400, nospam@zero.com (Peter Parker) wrote:
>
>>I want to get into welding and I'm looking at the Schumacher flux
>>wire feed welder. It looks like something that will work with my
>>limited 100Amp house service. It also looks like it would be fairly
>>easy to use under the chassis while jacked up in my garage. The
>>flux wire probably welds better pulling than pushing but I just
>>need it for little weld jobs.
>>
>>Anyone use this welder and who makes it for them? Century, Lincoln?
>
>I would suggest you look at a miller maxstar 140 or 150. This is a DC
>TIG/STICK welder, and with the addition of a Ready Welder spool gun
>you can also mig and flux core. Welding is no place for Taiwan tools.
>-Joe
Right but first I would have to upgrade my electric service. :-( I also
want to get a oil compressor and a quite shop vac. :-) I already have
my grinding tool which helps out with cutting, grinding and sanding.
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08-17-2003, 08:39 PM
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Re: Schumacher wire feed welder
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Nathan W. Collier <abuse@A0L.com> wrote:
>"Joseph" <joe@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
>news:vrqtjv4g2lnr4l2sbdo6dsklentrgdd8ad@4ax.com.. .
>> I would suggest you look at a miller maxstar 140 or 150.
>
>ouch....now youre talking $1000!
>
>although i agree with the recommendation. its an unbelievable little
>machine. the only thing i dont like about it is the lack of foot controls
>and high frequency.
>
>> Welding is no place for Taiwan tools.
>
>agreed!
I agree too. I've spent that kind of money on a washer and dryer but I
would first need to upgrade my electric serice and in-house to garage
wiring. I've only been a first time home owner for 3 years now and buying
the little things for the last three years and I am still not finished. :(
If it wasn't for that broken skid plate nut. :) At least I have 5 good ones
left and so they will have to do until I budget out the right garage upgrade
plan.
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Nathan W. Collier <abuse@A0L.com> wrote:
>"Joseph" <joe@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
>news:vrqtjv4g2lnr4l2sbdo6dsklentrgdd8ad@4ax.com.. .
>> I would suggest you look at a miller maxstar 140 or 150.
>
>ouch....now youre talking $1000!
>
>although i agree with the recommendation. its an unbelievable little
>machine. the only thing i dont like about it is the lack of foot controls
>and high frequency.
>
>> Welding is no place for Taiwan tools.
>
>agreed!
I agree too. I've spent that kind of money on a washer and dryer but I
would first need to upgrade my electric serice and in-house to garage
wiring. I've only been a first time home owner for 3 years now and buying
the little things for the last three years and I am still not finished. :(
If it wasn't for that broken skid plate nut. :) At least I have 5 good ones
left and so they will have to do until I budget out the right garage upgrade
plan.
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