Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

I totally agree. The last redesign in 99 had perfect tweaks in the right
direction. Now it looks like a cross between a Mazda and Explorer. Almost in
the direction of the Cadilac SUV which has to be the ugliest SUV on the
road.

Jeep really had a unique machine.

I have a 2002. My neighbor on a lake can't tow his 2000lb boat out of the
water with his Expedition (it will just dig itself into the sand). I can tow
my 4500lb boat out of the water with my 4.0L G.C. No problem (all stock).

It gets decent mileage too and I don't feel that guilty for it being over
kill. It was perfect, good looking and very capable. I still get complements
on it from folks when it's all cleaned up.

I'm so bummed, I'm tempted to try to find a 2004 left over.

What they should have done is fine tune crash zone stuff for better crash
tests, maybe introduce the anti rollover tricks other companies have and
minor style tweaks. They did have to do a few things to stay competive. But
they really blew it.

I hate the under the carriage spare tire.

I hope Chrysler loses there shirt on it due to climbing gas prices.

"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3fV7d.659963$Gx4.520581@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy
> ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle.
> Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler
> said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is
> for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.
>
>

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

I totally agree. The last redesign in 99 had perfect tweaks in the right
direction. Now it looks like a cross between a Mazda and Explorer. Almost in
the direction of the Cadilac SUV which has to be the ugliest SUV on the
road.

Jeep really had a unique machine.

I have a 2002. My neighbor on a lake can't tow his 2000lb boat out of the
water with his Expedition (it will just dig itself into the sand). I can tow
my 4500lb boat out of the water with my 4.0L G.C. No problem (all stock).

It gets decent mileage too and I don't feel that guilty for it being over
kill. It was perfect, good looking and very capable. I still get complements
on it from folks when it's all cleaned up.

I'm so bummed, I'm tempted to try to find a 2004 left over.

What they should have done is fine tune crash zone stuff for better crash
tests, maybe introduce the anti rollover tricks other companies have and
minor style tweaks. They did have to do a few things to stay competive. But
they really blew it.

I hate the under the carriage spare tire.

I hope Chrysler loses there shirt on it due to climbing gas prices.

"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3fV7d.659963$Gx4.520581@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy
> ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle.
> Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler
> said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is
> for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.
>
>

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

I totally agree. The last redesign in 99 had perfect tweaks in the right
direction. Now it looks like a cross between a Mazda and Explorer. Almost in
the direction of the Cadilac SUV which has to be the ugliest SUV on the
road.

Jeep really had a unique machine.

I have a 2002. My neighbor on a lake can't tow his 2000lb boat out of the
water with his Expedition (it will just dig itself into the sand). I can tow
my 4500lb boat out of the water with my 4.0L G.C. No problem (all stock).

It gets decent mileage too and I don't feel that guilty for it being over
kill. It was perfect, good looking and very capable. I still get complements
on it from folks when it's all cleaned up.

I'm so bummed, I'm tempted to try to find a 2004 left over.

What they should have done is fine tune crash zone stuff for better crash
tests, maybe introduce the anti rollover tricks other companies have and
minor style tweaks. They did have to do a few things to stay competive. But
they really blew it.

I hate the under the carriage spare tire.

I hope Chrysler loses there shirt on it due to climbing gas prices.

"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3fV7d.659963$Gx4.520581@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy
> ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle.
> Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler
> said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is
> for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.
>
>

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

the sled runners are there for rear impacts from other vehicles
to make sure the vehicle crumples correctly
we have 3 in stock al 4.7 engines

attnews wrote:

> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

the sled runners are there for rear impacts from other vehicles
to make sure the vehicle crumples correctly
we have 3 in stock al 4.7 engines

attnews wrote:

> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

the sled runners are there for rear impacts from other vehicles
to make sure the vehicle crumples correctly
we have 3 in stock al 4.7 engines

attnews wrote:

> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.