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attnews 10-03-2004 11:52 AM

saw '05 G.C...
 
M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
among the intelliduncia.



DougW 10-03-2004 12:42 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
attnews did pass the time by typing:
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s.


That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)

> From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something?


Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.

> The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular.


I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.



--
DougW



DougW 10-03-2004 12:42 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
attnews did pass the time by typing:
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s.


That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)

> From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something?


Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.

> The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular.


I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.



--
DougW



DougW 10-03-2004 12:42 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
attnews did pass the time by typing:
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s.


That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)

> From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something?


Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.

> The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular.


I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.



--
DougW



attnews 10-03-2004 01:17 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

thanks, Doug.....
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ffW7d.3281$gk.725@okepread01...
> attnews did pass the time by typing:
> > M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s.

>
> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck.

:)
>
> > From the
> > back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> > driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging

on
> > the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2

tapered
> > sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the

rear
> > bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> > something?

>
> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear

bumper.
> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>
> > The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> > bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's

spiffy ZJ
> > design look even more spectacular.

>
> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




attnews 10-03-2004 01:17 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

thanks, Doug.....
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ffW7d.3281$gk.725@okepread01...
> attnews did pass the time by typing:
> > M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s.

>
> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck.

:)
>
> > From the
> > back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> > driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging

on
> > the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2

tapered
> > sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the

rear
> > bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> > something?

>
> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear

bumper.
> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>
> > The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> > bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's

spiffy ZJ
> > design look even more spectacular.

>
> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




attnews 10-03-2004 01:17 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 

thanks, Doug.....
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:ffW7d.3281$gk.725@okepread01...
> attnews did pass the time by typing:
> > M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s.

>
> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck.

:)
>
> > From the
> > back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> > driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging

on
> > the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2

tapered
> > sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the

rear
> > bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> > something?

>
> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear

bumper.
> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>
> > The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> > bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's

spiffy ZJ
> > design look even more spectacular.

>
> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>
>
>
> --
> DougW
>
>




Jerry McG 10-03-2004 01:34 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Bravo! I looked at my local dealer's first one on the lot this AM. It has
your basic go-to-the-market, bland SUV look, no ground clearance, the fuel
tank is ahead of the rear axle, and hangs BELOW the unibody side
rails.(..DUH!!!!) Plus it has the spare under the vehicle, and some stupid
looking runners on either side running to the rear x-member. Same stupid,
low hanging lower A-arms as the liberty, but also has a front air dam that
will get torn off on the first rocky trail. The x-fer case lever is gone,
replaed by electric switches (I suppose we should be grateful it still has a
transfer case.) Nope, not a Jeep.

Two Jeep Models are now gone, replaced by --------: Cherokee and Grand. One
more to go before this brand is toast: Good Work Daimler!!!!!






"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3fV7d.659963$Gx4.520581@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy
> ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle.
> Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler
> said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is
> for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.
>
>




Jerry McG 10-03-2004 01:34 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Bravo! I looked at my local dealer's first one on the lot this AM. It has
your basic go-to-the-market, bland SUV look, no ground clearance, the fuel
tank is ahead of the rear axle, and hangs BELOW the unibody side
rails.(..DUH!!!!) Plus it has the spare under the vehicle, and some stupid
looking runners on either side running to the rear x-member. Same stupid,
low hanging lower A-arms as the liberty, but also has a front air dam that
will get torn off on the first rocky trail. The x-fer case lever is gone,
replaed by electric switches (I suppose we should be grateful it still has a
transfer case.) Nope, not a Jeep.

Two Jeep Models are now gone, replaced by --------: Cherokee and Grand. One
more to go before this brand is toast: Good Work Daimler!!!!!






"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3fV7d.659963$Gx4.520581@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy
> ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle.
> Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler
> said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is
> for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.
>
>




Jerry McG 10-03-2004 01:34 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Bravo! I looked at my local dealer's first one on the lot this AM. It has
your basic go-to-the-market, bland SUV look, no ground clearance, the fuel
tank is ahead of the rear axle, and hangs BELOW the unibody side
rails.(..DUH!!!!) Plus it has the spare under the vehicle, and some stupid
looking runners on either side running to the rear x-member. Same stupid,
low hanging lower A-arms as the liberty, but also has a front air dam that
will get torn off on the first rocky trail. The x-fer case lever is gone,
replaed by electric switches (I suppose we should be grateful it still has a
transfer case.) Nope, not a Jeep.

Two Jeep Models are now gone, replaced by --------: Cherokee and Grand. One
more to go before this brand is toast: Good Work Daimler!!!!!






"attnews" <john .n. allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3fV7d.659963$Gx4.520581@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy
> ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle.
> Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler
> said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is
> for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.
>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 02:16 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
The pictures you took of it are still up at:
http://www.----------.com/cherokee/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

DougW wrote:
>
> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)
>
> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>
> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 02:16 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
The pictures you took of it are still up at:
http://www.----------.com/cherokee/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

DougW wrote:
>
> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)
>
> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>
> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 02:16 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
The pictures you took of it are still up at:
http://www.----------.com/cherokee/
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

DougW wrote:
>
> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)
>
> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>
> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 02:23 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
They're call rippers, I think that's what my Father-in-law said were
on the back of his skip loader/scraper.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 02:23 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
They're call rippers, I think that's what my Father-in-law said were
on the back of his skip loader/scraper.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 02:23 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
They're call rippers, I think that's what my Father-in-law said were
on the back of his skip loader/scraper.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 03:18 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 03:18 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 03:18 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

attnews wrote:
>
> M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E about sums up this gawkey looking p.o.s. From the
> back it looks much like an Aztec...the gas tank hangs down below the
> driver's seat..(duhh) ..it has the same 2 cast iron tuna cans hanging on
> the rear end as that other mistake, the liberty has...there area 2 tapered
> sled runners...or; something...running from the "axle" (huh?) to the rear
> bumper area....maybe they're to help the vehicle slide down rocks or
> something? The over-all styling is a mish-mash; of bl0bs and slabs and
> bumps that have absolutely no continuity. In short, it makes AMC's spiffy ZJ
> design look even more spectacular. Jeep, and its concept, is dead..except
> for AMC's Wrangler design which is still more or less intact, except for
> that goofy, ill-fitting dash that was heisted from another vehicle. Alas,
> Jeep is now a foreign vehicle, and foreign it certainly looks. Krysler said
> its goal is to make "Jeeps" more car-like. They're;succeeding. As I've
> said before, Chrysler does not know what a jeep is, and what a jeep is for.
> And it certainly shows. I'm guessing this vehicle will have wide appeal
> among the intelliduncia.


Dick 10-03-2004 04:13 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Nice pictures of the rusty undercarriage. Any pictures of the Jeep?

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:16:40 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The pictures you took of it are still up at:
>http://www.----------.com/cherokee/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
>> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)
>>
>> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
>> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>>
>> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>>
>> --
>> DougW



Dick 10-03-2004 04:13 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Nice pictures of the rusty undercarriage. Any pictures of the Jeep?

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:16:40 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The pictures you took of it are still up at:
>http://www.----------.com/cherokee/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
>> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)
>>
>> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
>> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>>
>> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>>
>> --
>> DougW



Dick 10-03-2004 04:13 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Nice pictures of the rusty undercarriage. Any pictures of the Jeep?

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 11:16:40 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> The pictures you took of it are still up at:
>http://www.----------.com/cherokee/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------
>
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> That was my opinion. However the local Jeep dealer is offering a
>> free stopwatch/compass thingy (and food) to go see one, so what the heck. :)
>>
>> Exactly what they are there for. To keep from ripping off the rear bumper.
>> Too bad they don't extend far enough to actually work.
>>
>> I looked at the dash and wondered what vehicle they stole it from.
>>
>> --
>> DougW



DougW 10-03-2004 04:26 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
---- did pass the time by typing:
> Nice pictures of the rusty undercarriage. Any pictures of the Jeep?


Nope. I only took some underside shots since the body work is widly
available out on the web. That and I spent too much time gawking at
the Ford GT. :)

http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/temp/1.jpg

Ooooo Ahhhh.. Daddy want, but daddy no havum that much cabbage.

--
DougW



DougW 10-03-2004 04:26 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
---- did pass the time by typing:
> Nice pictures of the rusty undercarriage. Any pictures of the Jeep?


Nope. I only took some underside shots since the body work is widly
available out on the web. That and I spent too much time gawking at
the Ford GT. :)

http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/temp/1.jpg

Ooooo Ahhhh.. Daddy want, but daddy no havum that much cabbage.

--
DougW



DougW 10-03-2004 04:26 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
---- did pass the time by typing:
> Nice pictures of the rusty undercarriage. Any pictures of the Jeep?


Nope. I only took some underside shots since the body work is widly
available out on the web. That and I spent too much time gawking at
the Ford GT. :)

http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/temp/1.jpg

Ooooo Ahhhh.. Daddy want, but daddy no havum that much cabbage.

--
DougW



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 04:54 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
It was nice of Ford to bring back that forty year old car again:
http://www.allsportauto.com/english/ford_gt_40.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Nope. I only took some underside shots since the body work is widly
> available out on the web. That and I spent too much time gawking at
> the Ford GT. :)
>
> http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/temp/1.jpg
>
> Ooooo Ahhhh.. Daddy want, but daddy no havum that much cabbage.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 04:54 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
It was nice of Ford to bring back that forty year old car again:
http://www.allsportauto.com/english/ford_gt_40.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Nope. I only took some underside shots since the body work is widly
> available out on the web. That and I spent too much time gawking at
> the Ford GT. :)
>
> http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/temp/1.jpg
>
> Ooooo Ahhhh.. Daddy want, but daddy no havum that much cabbage.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 04:54 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
It was nice of Ford to bring back that forty year old car again:
http://www.allsportauto.com/english/ford_gt_40.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Nope. I only took some underside shots since the body work is widly
> available out on the web. That and I spent too much time gawking at
> the Ford GT. :)
>
> http://members.cox.net/douglas.wilson/temp/1.jpg
>
> Ooooo Ahhhh.. Daddy want, but daddy no havum that much cabbage.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 05:02 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
The GT-40's headers made a weird sound, that can only be described
as a mad bubble bee:
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoaut..._gt40_29_m.jpg

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> It was nice of Ford to bring back that forty year old car again:
> http://www.allsportauto.com/english/ford_gt_40.php
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 05:02 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
The GT-40's headers made a weird sound, that can only be described
as a mad bubble bee:
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoaut..._gt40_29_m.jpg

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> It was nice of Ford to bring back that forty year old car again:
> http://www.allsportauto.com/english/ford_gt_40.php
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-03-2004 05:02 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
The GT-40's headers made a weird sound, that can only be described
as a mad bubble bee:
http://www.allsportauto.com/photoaut..._gt40_29_m.jpg

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> It was nice of Ford to bring back that forty year old car again:
> http://www.allsportauto.com/english/ford_gt_40.php
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Dave Milne 10-04-2004 02:12 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...

"Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"

"IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen a
WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
anyway?"

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41605072.ACDB0134@cox.net...
> Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>




Dave Milne 10-04-2004 02:12 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...

"Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"

"IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen a
WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
anyway?"

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41605072.ACDB0134@cox.net...
> Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>




Dave Milne 10-04-2004 02:12 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...

"Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"

"IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen a
WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
anyway?"

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41605072.ACDB0134@cox.net...
> Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
> http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-04-2004 02:47 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...
>
> "Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
> 100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"
>
> "IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
> life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen a
> WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
> anyway?"
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-04-2004 02:47 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...
>
> "Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
> 100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"
>
> "IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
> life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen a
> WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
> anyway?"
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-04-2004 02:47 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
http://www.mcguiganmotors.com/grand_cherokee_4wd.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...
>
> "Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
> 100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"
>
> "IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
> life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen a
> WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
> anyway?"
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


Jerry McG 10-04-2004 09:22 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Last Spring at the Moab Easter Jeep Safari the SevenMile RIm trail was lead
by a guy in an '01 WJ. We see them all the time off road around here. DC has
really screwed the dog on this POS.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:8og8d.2513$xb.1505@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...
>
> "Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
> 100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"
>
> "IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
> life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen
> a
> WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
> anyway?"
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:41605072.ACDB0134@cox.net...
>> Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
>> http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>

>
>




Jerry McG 10-04-2004 09:22 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Last Spring at the Moab Easter Jeep Safari the SevenMile RIm trail was lead
by a guy in an '01 WJ. We see them all the time off road around here. DC has
really screwed the dog on this POS.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:8og8d.2513$xb.1505@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...
>
> "Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
> 100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"
>
> "IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
> life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen
> a
> WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
> anyway?"
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:41605072.ACDB0134@cox.net...
>> Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
>> http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>

>
>




Jerry McG 10-04-2004 09:22 PM

Re: saw '05 G.C...
 
Last Spring at the Moab Easter Jeep Safari the SevenMile RIm trail was lead
by a guy in an '01 WJ. We see them all the time off road around here. DC has
really screwed the dog on this POS.


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:8og8d.2513$xb.1505@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> Stupid write up that contradicts itself ...
>
> "Quadra-Drive II is the pinnacle of the 4WD systems.... In other words,
> 100% power can be sent to one wheel if it is needed"
>
> "IFS handles better on the road - where the vehicle will spend most of its
> life.I bet you can count on one hand the number of times you've ever seen
> a
> WJ Grand Cherokee on a serious trail. I know I can. So what does it matter
> anyway?"
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:41605072.ACDB0134@cox.net...
>> Bought and paid for Rockcrawler preview:
>> http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/j...ntro/index.asp
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>

>
>





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