Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
#31
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
The chalk method works great for oversized tires.
I used it on my 31x10.5's and 26 psi front and rear worked. They wore
out totally even for tread wear.
Same for my new 33x9.5's, at 35 psi like they came from the tire shop, I
only have 4" of tread touching. Drop them to 26 psi and I am only
missing 1/4" on the edges. This turns out to be too low for the tall
sidewall on the 33's and the edges scuff, so I use 28 psi.
A Jeep CJ or Wrangler has almost a 50/50 weight split on the tires when
not loaded. I believe the Cherokee is close to the same.
They both call for even front to back air pressure.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> On 05 Dec 2003 10:10 AM, Tim Hayes posted the following:
> > I agree with this. I have a Sahara with the standard 30x9.5 Goodyear
> > GS-A tires still on it.
> >
> > I used my 6yo daughter's sidewalk chalk. Came up with 30psi as being
> > "right" with perhaps a bit more necessary in the front. The sticker
> > says 29psi, the tires say 44psi max. Use the chalk to draw a thick
> > line across your tires and drive STRAIGHT ahead for 50-100 feet. See
> > if the chalk has worn off evenly. Adjust air as necesary and repeat
> > until you get it right.
>
> It sounds as though you managed to verify that the Jeep factory got
> their recommendations for stock tire pressure right. The difference is
> certainly within the margin of error of your gauge.
>
> > You can estimate the minimum pressure 'allowable' on the road by
> > looking up the tire manufacturer's max load (at max PSI). You need to
> > assume a 50/50 weight split front/rear, which for a wrangler is
> > accurate if there isn't a winch on the front, otherwise you need to
> > modify this procedure to take the higher of the front/rear loads.
> > Both should always be the same pressure on a 4x4 even if it isn't
> > necesary for load reasons.
>
> Actually there is nothing special about a 4x4 that requires the front
> tires to be the same as the rear. Matter of fact, I used to drive a
> pickup truck for work that needed 55psi in the front tires, and 80 in
> the rear. Any more than 55 in the front would have led to uneven
> treadwear, while any less than 80 in the rear and it wouldn't have
> handled the weight.
>
> > Take the max PSI, multiply that by 1/4 of your vehicle weight, and
> > divide by the max load for the tire. That is close to the minimum
> > pressure that is OK for the road. For *my* TJ Sahara that is about 26
> > PSI with my wife, daughter, and a tank of gas (truck stop scale!)
>
> 10+ years in the tire business and I have never seen or heard of that
> method being recommended, though it seems to make some sense. If you
> have any documentation supporting it I would be curious to read it.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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I used it on my 31x10.5's and 26 psi front and rear worked. They wore
out totally even for tread wear.
Same for my new 33x9.5's, at 35 psi like they came from the tire shop, I
only have 4" of tread touching. Drop them to 26 psi and I am only
missing 1/4" on the edges. This turns out to be too low for the tall
sidewall on the 33's and the edges scuff, so I use 28 psi.
A Jeep CJ or Wrangler has almost a 50/50 weight split on the tires when
not loaded. I believe the Cherokee is close to the same.
They both call for even front to back air pressure.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> On 05 Dec 2003 10:10 AM, Tim Hayes posted the following:
> > I agree with this. I have a Sahara with the standard 30x9.5 Goodyear
> > GS-A tires still on it.
> >
> > I used my 6yo daughter's sidewalk chalk. Came up with 30psi as being
> > "right" with perhaps a bit more necessary in the front. The sticker
> > says 29psi, the tires say 44psi max. Use the chalk to draw a thick
> > line across your tires and drive STRAIGHT ahead for 50-100 feet. See
> > if the chalk has worn off evenly. Adjust air as necesary and repeat
> > until you get it right.
>
> It sounds as though you managed to verify that the Jeep factory got
> their recommendations for stock tire pressure right. The difference is
> certainly within the margin of error of your gauge.
>
> > You can estimate the minimum pressure 'allowable' on the road by
> > looking up the tire manufacturer's max load (at max PSI). You need to
> > assume a 50/50 weight split front/rear, which for a wrangler is
> > accurate if there isn't a winch on the front, otherwise you need to
> > modify this procedure to take the higher of the front/rear loads.
> > Both should always be the same pressure on a 4x4 even if it isn't
> > necesary for load reasons.
>
> Actually there is nothing special about a 4x4 that requires the front
> tires to be the same as the rear. Matter of fact, I used to drive a
> pickup truck for work that needed 55psi in the front tires, and 80 in
> the rear. Any more than 55 in the front would have led to uneven
> treadwear, while any less than 80 in the rear and it wouldn't have
> handled the weight.
>
> > Take the max PSI, multiply that by 1/4 of your vehicle weight, and
> > divide by the max load for the tire. That is close to the minimum
> > pressure that is OK for the road. For *my* TJ Sahara that is about 26
> > PSI with my wife, daughter, and a tank of gas (truck stop scale!)
>
> 10+ years in the tire business and I have never seen or heard of that
> method being recommended, though it seems to make some sense. If you
> have any documentation supporting it I would be curious to read it.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
#32
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
I run mine at 27psi.
n.
"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
> 80psi!?!?!
> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
> time?
>
> 8~)>
>
> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
> highway and city).
>
> --
> bob z.
> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
target.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>
n.
"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
> 80psi!?!?!
> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
> time?
>
> 8~)>
>
> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
> highway and city).
>
> --
> bob z.
> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
target.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>
#33
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
I run mine at 27psi.
n.
"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
> 80psi!?!?!
> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
> time?
>
> 8~)>
>
> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
> highway and city).
>
> --
> bob z.
> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
target.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>
n.
"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
> 80psi!?!?!
> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
> time?
>
> 8~)>
>
> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
> highway and city).
>
> --
> bob z.
> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
target.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>
#34
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
I run mine at 27psi.
n.
"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
> 80psi!?!?!
> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
> time?
>
> 8~)>
>
> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
> highway and city).
>
> --
> bob z.
> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
target.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>
n.
"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
> 80psi!?!?!
> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
> time?
>
> 8~)>
>
> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
> highway and city).
>
> --
> bob z.
> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
target.
>
> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
> everyday"©
>
>
#35
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it rides
pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the ride
isn't so bad.
Nathan Otis wrote:
>I run mine at 27psi.
>n.
>
>"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
>news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
>>these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
>>80psi!?!?!
>>great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
>>time?
>>
>>8~)>
>>
>>what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
>>400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
>>highway and city).
>>
>>--
>>bob z.
>>p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
>>
>>
>target.
>
>
>>"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
>>everyday"©
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it rides
pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the ride
isn't so bad.
Nathan Otis wrote:
>I run mine at 27psi.
>n.
>
>"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
>news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
>>these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
>>80psi!?!?!
>>great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
>>time?
>>
>>8~)>
>>
>>what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
>>400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
>>highway and city).
>>
>>--
>>bob z.
>>p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
>>
>>
>target.
>
>
>>"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
>>everyday"©
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
#36
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it rides
pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the ride
isn't so bad.
Nathan Otis wrote:
>I run mine at 27psi.
>n.
>
>"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
>news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
>>these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
>>80psi!?!?!
>>great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
>>time?
>>
>>8~)>
>>
>>what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
>>400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
>>highway and city).
>>
>>--
>>bob z.
>>p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
>>
>>
>target.
>
>
>>"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
>>everyday"©
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it rides
pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the ride
isn't so bad.
Nathan Otis wrote:
>I run mine at 27psi.
>n.
>
>"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
>news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
>>these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
>>80psi!?!?!
>>great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
>>time?
>>
>>8~)>
>>
>>what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
>>400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
>>highway and city).
>>
>>--
>>bob z.
>>p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
>>
>>
>target.
>
>
>>"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
>>everyday"©
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
#37
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it rides
pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the ride
isn't so bad.
Nathan Otis wrote:
>I run mine at 27psi.
>n.
>
>"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
>news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
>>these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
>>80psi!?!?!
>>great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
>>time?
>>
>>8~)>
>>
>>what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
>>400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
>>highway and city).
>>
>>--
>>bob z.
>>p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
>>
>>
>target.
>
>
>>"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
>>everyday"©
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it rides
pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the ride
isn't so bad.
Nathan Otis wrote:
>I run mine at 27psi.
>n.
>
>"bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
>news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>
>>these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at 80psi.
>>80psi!?!?!
>>great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of the other
>>time?
>>
>>8~)>
>>
>>what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used for about
>>400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is rural
>>highway and city).
>>
>>--
>>bob z.
>>p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself a
>>
>>
>target.
>
>
>>"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
>>everyday"©
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
#38
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
When I had 31x10.5 BFG muds on mine, I ran at 26 in town and 28 highway
when loaded.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> me wrote:
>
> Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
> road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it
> rides pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the
> ride isn't so bad.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> > I run mine at 27psi.
> > n.
> >
> > "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> > news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> >> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at
> >> 80psi.
> >> 80psi!?!?!
> >> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of
> >> the other
> >> time?
> >>
> >> 8~)>
> >>
> >> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used
> >> for about
> >> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is
> >> rural
> >> highway and city).
> >>
> >> --
> >> bob z.
> >> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself
> >> a
> >>
> >>
> > target.
> >
> >
> >> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult
> >> things
> >> everyday"©
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
when loaded.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> me wrote:
>
> Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
> road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it
> rides pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the
> ride isn't so bad.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> > I run mine at 27psi.
> > n.
> >
> > "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> > news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> >> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at
> >> 80psi.
> >> 80psi!?!?!
> >> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of
> >> the other
> >> time?
> >>
> >> 8~)>
> >>
> >> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used
> >> for about
> >> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is
> >> rural
> >> highway and city).
> >>
> >> --
> >> bob z.
> >> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself
> >> a
> >>
> >>
> > target.
> >
> >
> >> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult
> >> things
> >> everyday"©
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
#39
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
When I had 31x10.5 BFG muds on mine, I ran at 26 in town and 28 highway
when loaded.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> me wrote:
>
> Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
> road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it
> rides pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the
> ride isn't so bad.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> > I run mine at 27psi.
> > n.
> >
> > "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> > news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> >> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at
> >> 80psi.
> >> 80psi!?!?!
> >> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of
> >> the other
> >> time?
> >>
> >> 8~)>
> >>
> >> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used
> >> for about
> >> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is
> >> rural
> >> highway and city).
> >>
> >> --
> >> bob z.
> >> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself
> >> a
> >>
> >>
> > target.
> >
> >
> >> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult
> >> things
> >> everyday"©
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
when loaded.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> me wrote:
>
> Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
> road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it
> rides pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the
> ride isn't so bad.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> > I run mine at 27psi.
> > n.
> >
> > "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> > news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> >> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at
> >> 80psi.
> >> 80psi!?!?!
> >> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of
> >> the other
> >> time?
> >>
> >> 8~)>
> >>
> >> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used
> >> for about
> >> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is
> >> rural
> >> highway and city).
> >>
> >> --
> >> bob z.
> >> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself
> >> a
> >>
> >>
> > target.
> >
> >
> >> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult
> >> things
> >> everyday"©
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
#40
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Re: Rubicon - Wrangler Tires
When I had 31x10.5 BFG muds on mine, I ran at 26 in town and 28 highway
when loaded.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> me wrote:
>
> Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
> road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it
> rides pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the
> ride isn't so bad.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> > I run mine at 27psi.
> > n.
> >
> > "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> > news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> >> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at
> >> 80psi.
> >> 80psi!?!?!
> >> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of
> >> the other
> >> time?
> >>
> >> 8~)>
> >>
> >> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used
> >> for about
> >> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is
> >> rural
> >> highway and city).
> >>
> >> --
> >> bob z.
> >> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself
> >> a
> >>
> >>
> > target.
> >
> >
> >> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult
> >> things
> >> everyday"©
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
when loaded.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> me wrote:
>
> Hold on. You guys are running 31x10.5x16 MT/Rs at 27 and 30 lbs on
> road?? I've got 31x10.5x15 MT/Rs on my stock '98 TJ Sport and it
> rides pretty nice. They are noisy even with the hard top on, but the
> ride isn't so bad.
>
> Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> > I run mine at 27psi.
> > n.
> >
> > "bob zee" <cam509@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> > news:bqq0e7$24j2kk$1@ID-177997.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> >
> >> these tires have a some info on the sidewall about max load at
> >> 80psi.
> >> 80psi!?!?!
> >> great info if you want to run a max load, but what about all of
> >> the other
> >> time?
> >>
> >> 8~)>
> >>
> >> what would you guys run in these tires? this vehicle gets used
> >> for about
> >> 400 miles per week (200 miles of interstate and the remainder is
> >> rural
> >> highway and city).
> >>
> >> --
> >> bob z.
> >> p.s. the police aren't targetting you. *you* are making yourself
> >> a
> >>
> >>
> > target.
> >
> >
> >> "people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult
> >> things
> >> everyday"©
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >