Kevin in San Diego

My friend who works for bilstien says that the EVO is easier to set up than
the WRX. I guess he says it handles better?
KH

"Goat Crapp" <goatcrapp@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20031210220235.14429.00000541@mb-m14.aol.com...
> the EVO is up there with the wrx STI in price..
>
> i dont know about 2004 prices, but my 2002 - virtually identical except
some
> minor cladding redesigns - was had for 20,800 out the door with just about
> every "option" (not too many option packages lol)
>
> i haven't seen an EVO for less than 28, and usually theyre walking out the
door
> for close to 30, at least in my area.
>
> i've ridden in it, i personally prefer the sti's ride... evo feels a
little too
> jittery, the sti much more surefooted.. both a lot less comfy than the
> standard wrx, albeit slightly more capable.
>
> >The Mitsubishi Evo is a good choice if thats what yo uare looking for. Im
> >not sure I like the WRX
> >KH
>
>
> -Steve 98 TJ

Kevin in San Diego

My friend who works for bilstien says that the EVO is easier to set up than
the WRX. I guess he says it handles better?
KH

"Goat Crapp" <goatcrapp@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20031210220235.14429.00000541@mb-m14.aol.com...
> the EVO is up there with the wrx STI in price..
>
> i dont know about 2004 prices, but my 2002 - virtually identical except
some
> minor cladding redesigns - was had for 20,800 out the door with just about
> every "option" (not too many option packages lol)
>
> i haven't seen an EVO for less than 28, and usually theyre walking out the
door
> for close to 30, at least in my area.
>
> i've ridden in it, i personally prefer the sti's ride... evo feels a
little too
> jittery, the sti much more surefooted.. both a lot less comfy than the
> standard wrx, albeit slightly more capable.
>
> >The Mitsubishi Evo is a good choice if thats what yo uare looking for. Im
> >not sure I like the WRX
> >KH
>
>
> -Steve 98 TJ

Goat Crapp

>My friend who works for bilstien says that the EVO is easier to set up than
>the WRX. I guess he says it handles better?
>KH

well depends on whether easier = handling :)

obviously once you go aftermarket - ie bilstein ;) all bets are off. but i
have heard the same, that out of the box the evo's are easier to throw around a
track, but the sti is more forgiving. the plain wrx isnt even in the same
class as either. evo is definitely more boy-racer than the sti IMO. (although
they both are lol) however the sti has a really nice awd system, adjustable
front/rear drive bias, 3 lsd diffs, all independantly controlled... etc. the
wrx (regular version) really isnt up to stuff to either.. but compared to
eachother - it really comes down to small preferences, splitting hairs really
because either will get you around a course within hundredths of eachother ;)

re: the reliability issues - the evo is using possibly the best modern 4cyl
block available - the "DSM" 4g63t block - which is dead reliable and easiyl
accomodates a ton of power on stock internals. (the downside has always been
everything else connected TO this engine lol)

the factory "altezza" lights and skittish feel (felt very much like my rx7 with
500/550lb springs ie: no give) make it a non option for me... and the sti is
close enough where if i do want to "upgrade" i'll have a choice in the higher
powered, better handling awd market.. (audi also has some nice, if less sporty
entrants into this field) but for now the plain ol wrx is plenty for me for
all-around goodness. speed is what i have the rx7 for, rugged and go anywhere
is what my next jeep will be for. :)
-Steve 98 TJ

Goat Crapp

>My friend who works for bilstien says that the EVO is easier to set up than
>the WRX. I guess he says it handles better?
>KH

well depends on whether easier = handling :)

obviously once you go aftermarket - ie bilstein ;) all bets are off. but i
have heard the same, that out of the box the evo's are easier to throw around a
track, but the sti is more forgiving. the plain wrx isnt even in the same
class as either. evo is definitely more boy-racer than the sti IMO. (although
they both are lol) however the sti has a really nice awd system, adjustable
front/rear drive bias, 3 lsd diffs, all independantly controlled... etc. the
wrx (regular version) really isnt up to stuff to either.. but compared to
eachother - it really comes down to small preferences, splitting hairs really
because either will get you around a course within hundredths of eachother ;)

re: the reliability issues - the evo is using possibly the best modern 4cyl
block available - the "DSM" 4g63t block - which is dead reliable and easiyl
accomodates a ton of power on stock internals. (the downside has always been
everything else connected TO this engine lol)

the factory "altezza" lights and skittish feel (felt very much like my rx7 with
500/550lb springs ie: no give) make it a non option for me... and the sti is
close enough where if i do want to "upgrade" i'll have a choice in the higher
powered, better handling awd market.. (audi also has some nice, if less sporty
entrants into this field) but for now the plain ol wrx is plenty for me for
all-around goodness. speed is what i have the rx7 for, rugged and go anywhere
is what my next jeep will be for. :)
-Steve 98 TJ

Goat Crapp

>My friend who works for bilstien says that the EVO is easier to set up than
>the WRX. I guess he says it handles better?
>KH

well depends on whether easier = handling :)

obviously once you go aftermarket - ie bilstein ;) all bets are off. but i
have heard the same, that out of the box the evo's are easier to throw around a
track, but the sti is more forgiving. the plain wrx isnt even in the same
class as either. evo is definitely more boy-racer than the sti IMO. (although
they both are lol) however the sti has a really nice awd system, adjustable
front/rear drive bias, 3 lsd diffs, all independantly controlled... etc. the
wrx (regular version) really isnt up to stuff to either.. but compared to
eachother - it really comes down to small preferences, splitting hairs really
because either will get you around a course within hundredths of eachother ;)

re: the reliability issues - the evo is using possibly the best modern 4cyl
block available - the "DSM" 4g63t block - which is dead reliable and easiyl
accomodates a ton of power on stock internals. (the downside has always been
everything else connected TO this engine lol)

the factory "altezza" lights and skittish feel (felt very much like my rx7 with
500/550lb springs ie: no give) make it a non option for me... and the sti is
close enough where if i do want to "upgrade" i'll have a choice in the higher
powered, better handling awd market.. (audi also has some nice, if less sporty
entrants into this field) but for now the plain ol wrx is plenty for me for
all-around goodness. speed is what i have the rx7 for, rugged and go anywhere
is what my next jeep will be for. :)
-Steve 98 TJ

Dave Milne

I think the latest EVO now comes with Bilsteins all round - in fact that's
one of the biggest changes.

Dave Milne, Scotland


"Goat Crapp" <goatcrapp@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20031211005419.14429.00000552@mb-m14.aol.com...
> >My friend who works for bilstien says that the EVO is easier to set up
than
> >the WRX. I guess he says it handles better?
> >KH
>
> well depends on whether easier = handling :)
>
> obviously once you go aftermarket - ie bilstein ;) all bets are off. but
i
> have heard the same, that out of the box the evo's are easier to throw
around a
> track, but the sti is more forgiving. the plain wrx isnt even in the same
> class as either. evo is definitely more boy-racer than the sti IMO.
(although
> they both are lol) however the sti has a really nice awd system,
adjustable
> front/rear drive bias, 3 lsd diffs, all independantly controlled... etc.
the
> wrx (regular version) really isnt up to stuff to either.. but compared to
> eachother - it really comes down to small preferences, splitting hairs
really
> because either will get you around a course within hundredths of eachother
;)
>
> re: the reliability issues - the evo is using possibly the best modern
4cyl
> block available - the "DSM" 4g63t block - which is dead reliable and
easiyl
> accomodates a ton of power on stock internals. (the downside has always
been
> everything else connected TO this engine lol)
>
> the factory "altezza" lights and skittish feel (felt very much like my rx7
with
> 500/550lb springs ie: no give) make it a non option for me... and the sti
is
> close enough where if i do want to "upgrade" i'll have a choice in the
higher
> powered, better handling awd market.. (audi also has some nice, if less
sporty
> entrants into this field) but for now the plain ol wrx is plenty for me
for
> all-around goodness. speed is what i have the rx7 for, rugged and go
anywhere
> is what my next jeep will be for. :)
> -Steve 98 TJ

Dave Milne

I think the latest EVO now comes with Bilsteins all round - in fact that's
one of the biggest changes.

Dave Milne, Scotland


"Goat Crapp" <goatcrapp@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20031211005419.14429.00000552@mb-m14.aol.com...
> >My friend who works for bilstien says that the EVO is easier to set up
than
> >the WRX. I guess he says it handles better?
> >KH
>
> well depends on whether easier = handling :)
>
> obviously once you go aftermarket - ie bilstein ;) all bets are off. but
i
> have heard the same, that out of the box the evo's are easier to throw
around a
> track, but the sti is more forgiving. the plain wrx isnt even in the same
> class as either. evo is definitely more boy-racer than the sti IMO.
(although
> they both are lol) however the sti has a really nice awd system,
adjustable
> front/rear drive bias, 3 lsd diffs, all independantly controlled... etc.
the
> wrx (regular version) really isnt up to stuff to either.. but compared to
> eachother - it really comes down to small preferences, splitting hairs
really
> because either will get you around a course within hundredths of eachother
;)
>
> re: the reliability issues - the evo is using possibly the best modern
4cyl
> block available - the "DSM" 4g63t block - which is dead reliable and
easiyl
> accomodates a ton of power on stock internals. (the downside has always
been
> everything else connected TO this engine lol)
>
> the factory "altezza" lights and skittish feel (felt very much like my rx7
with
> 500/550lb springs ie: no give) make it a non option for me... and the sti
is
> close enough where if i do want to "upgrade" i'll have a choice in the
higher
> powered, better handling awd market.. (audi also has some nice, if less
sporty
> entrants into this field) but for now the plain ol wrx is plenty for me
for
> all-around goodness. speed is what i have the rx7 for, rugged and go
anywhere
> is what my next jeep will be for. :)
> -Steve 98 TJ

Dave Milne

I think the latest EVO now comes with Bilsteins all round - in fact that's
one of the biggest changes.

Dave Milne, Scotland


"Goat Crapp" <goatcrapp@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20031211005419.14429.00000552@mb-m14.aol.com...
> >My friend who works for bilstien says that the EVO is easier to set up
than
> >the WRX. I guess he says it handles better?
> >KH
>
> well depends on whether easier = handling :)
>
> obviously once you go aftermarket - ie bilstein ;) all bets are off. but
i
> have heard the same, that out of the box the evo's are easier to throw
around a
> track, but the sti is more forgiving. the plain wrx isnt even in the same
> class as either. evo is definitely more boy-racer than the sti IMO.
(although
> they both are lol) however the sti has a really nice awd system,
adjustable
> front/rear drive bias, 3 lsd diffs, all independantly controlled... etc.
the
> wrx (regular version) really isnt up to stuff to either.. but compared to
> eachother - it really comes down to small preferences, splitting hairs
really
> because either will get you around a course within hundredths of eachother
;)
>
> re: the reliability issues - the evo is using possibly the best modern
4cyl
> block available - the "DSM" 4g63t block - which is dead reliable and
easiyl
> accomodates a ton of power on stock internals. (the downside has always
been
> everything else connected TO this engine lol)
>
> the factory "altezza" lights and skittish feel (felt very much like my rx7
with
> 500/550lb springs ie: no give) make it a non option for me... and the sti
is
> close enough where if i do want to "upgrade" i'll have a choice in the
higher
> powered, better handling awd market.. (audi also has some nice, if less
sporty
> entrants into this field) but for now the plain ol wrx is plenty for me
for
> all-around goodness. speed is what i have the rx7 for, rugged and go
anywhere
> is what my next jeep will be for. :)
> -Steve 98 TJ