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Jeffrey Wright 05-09-2004 05:08 PM

Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.

I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
exhausting haggle session or two.

What is the best you think I can do?



jbjeep 05-09-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

I would be prepared to walk away from the deal, at least temporarily, since they
deffinitly have you by the short ones and they know it.


On Sun, 09 May 2004 21:08:45 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright" <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>>I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>>
>>I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
>>relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
>>exhausting haggle session or two.
>>
>>What is the best you think I can do?
>>



jbjeep 05-09-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

I would be prepared to walk away from the deal, at least temporarily, since they
deffinitly have you by the short ones and they know it.


On Sun, 09 May 2004 21:08:45 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright" <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>>I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>>
>>I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
>>relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
>>exhausting haggle session or two.
>>
>>What is the best you think I can do?
>>



jbjeep 05-09-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

I would be prepared to walk away from the deal, at least temporarily, since they
deffinitly have you by the short ones and they know it.


On Sun, 09 May 2004 21:08:45 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright" <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>>I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>>
>>I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
>>relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
>>exhausting haggle session or two.
>>
>>What is the best you think I can do?
>>



jbjeep 05-09-2004 05:31 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

I would be prepared to walk away from the deal, at least temporarily, since they
deffinitly have you by the short ones and they know it.


On Sun, 09 May 2004 21:08:45 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright" <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>>I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>>
>>I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
>>relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
>>exhausting haggle session or two.
>>
>>What is the best you think I can do?
>>



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2004 05:52 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
>
> I would be prepared to walk away from the deal, at least temporarily, since they
> deffinitly have you by the short ones and they know it.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2004 05:52 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
>
> I would be prepared to walk away from the deal, at least temporarily, since they
> deffinitly have you by the short ones and they know it.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2004 05:52 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
>
> I would be prepared to walk away from the deal, at least temporarily, since they
> deffinitly have you by the short ones and they know it.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2004 05:52 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
>
> I would be prepared to walk away from the deal, at least temporarily, since they
> deffinitly have you by the short ones and they know it.


Muuurgh 05-09-2004 05:53 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
I got mine for 2% under invoice. But that's because I'm a graduating
student this year. You can get them around invoice for sure though.
Course, you already paid $500 for the order... didn't you? That may take
away some of your bargaining ability.

-Muuurgh

"Jeffrey Wright" <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:x5xnc.7042$zR6.4673@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
> I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
> relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
> exhausting haggle session or two.
>
> What is the best you think I can do?
>
>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 05:53 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
I got mine for 2% under invoice. But that's because I'm a graduating
student this year. You can get them around invoice for sure though.
Course, you already paid $500 for the order... didn't you? That may take
away some of your bargaining ability.

-Muuurgh

"Jeffrey Wright" <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:x5xnc.7042$zR6.4673@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
> I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
> relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
> exhausting haggle session or two.
>
> What is the best you think I can do?
>
>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 05:53 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
I got mine for 2% under invoice. But that's because I'm a graduating
student this year. You can get them around invoice for sure though.
Course, you already paid $500 for the order... didn't you? That may take
away some of your bargaining ability.

-Muuurgh

"Jeffrey Wright" <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:x5xnc.7042$zR6.4673@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
> I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
> relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
> exhausting haggle session or two.
>
> What is the best you think I can do?
>
>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 05:53 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
I got mine for 2% under invoice. But that's because I'm a graduating
student this year. You can get them around invoice for sure though.
Course, you already paid $500 for the order... didn't you? That may take
away some of your bargaining ability.

-Muuurgh

"Jeffrey Wright" <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:x5xnc.7042$zR6.4673@newssvr24.news.prodigy.co m...
> I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
> I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
> relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
> exhausting haggle session or two.
>
> What is the best you think I can do?
>
>




David C. Moller 05-09-2004 06:01 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Like others have said, I can't imagine ordering prior to settling on a
price. But that being said, I pretty much consider invoice up to
invoice+$500 to be fair.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 09 May 2004 21:08:45 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
<jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
>I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
>relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
>exhausting haggle session or two.
>
>What is the best you think I can do?
>



David C. Moller 05-09-2004 06:01 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Like others have said, I can't imagine ordering prior to settling on a
price. But that being said, I pretty much consider invoice up to
invoice+$500 to be fair.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 09 May 2004 21:08:45 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
<jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
>I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
>relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
>exhausting haggle session or two.
>
>What is the best you think I can do?
>



David C. Moller 05-09-2004 06:01 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Like others have said, I can't imagine ordering prior to settling on a
price. But that being said, I pretty much consider invoice up to
invoice+$500 to be fair.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 09 May 2004 21:08:45 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
<jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
>I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
>relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
>exhausting haggle session or two.
>
>What is the best you think I can do?
>



David C. Moller 05-09-2004 06:01 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Like others have said, I can't imagine ordering prior to settling on a
price. But that being said, I pretty much consider invoice up to
invoice+$500 to be fair.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Sun, 09 May 2004 21:08:45 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
<jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
>I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
>relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
>exhausting haggle session or two.
>
>What is the best you think I can do?
>



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Might run it through one of these:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ce&btnG=Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey Wright wrote:
>
> I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
> I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
> relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
> exhausting haggle session or two.
>
> What is the best you think I can do?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Might run it through one of these:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ce&btnG=Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey Wright wrote:
>
> I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
> I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
> relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
> exhausting haggle session or two.
>
> What is the best you think I can do?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Might run it through one of these:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ce&btnG=Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey Wright wrote:
>
> I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
> I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
> relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
> exhausting haggle session or two.
>
> What is the best you think I can do?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-09-2004 06:06 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Might run it through one of these:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ce&btnG=Search
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey Wright wrote:
>
> I ordered my Rubicon back in February; it has arrived. I'm very anxious.
>
> I go in tomorrow to settle on price. The msrp on mine is 28,600. I am in a
> relatively low volume area (deep south Texas), and I anticipate an
> exhausting haggle session or two.
>
> What is the best you think I can do?


Jeffrey Wright 05-09-2004 06:24 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of a
deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing was
basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it got
here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
less, don't they.

They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to put
a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?



"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com>. ..

> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??




Jeffrey Wright 05-09-2004 06:24 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of a
deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing was
basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it got
here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
less, don't they.

They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to put
a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?



"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com>. ..

> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??




Jeffrey Wright 05-09-2004 06:24 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of a
deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing was
basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it got
here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
less, don't they.

They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to put
a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?



"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com>. ..

> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??




Jeffrey Wright 05-09-2004 06:24 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of a
deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing was
basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it got
here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
less, don't they.

They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to put
a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?



"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com>. ..

> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??




David C. Moller 05-09-2004 06:38 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
*should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
guys IMO.

Dave

On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
<jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of a
>deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing was
>basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it got
>here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
>less, don't they.
>
>They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to put
>a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
>
>
>
>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
>
>> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

>



David C. Moller 05-09-2004 06:38 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
*should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
guys IMO.

Dave

On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
<jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of a
>deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing was
>basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it got
>here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
>less, don't they.
>
>They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to put
>a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
>
>
>
>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
>
>> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

>



David C. Moller 05-09-2004 06:38 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
*should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
guys IMO.

Dave

On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
<jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of a
>deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing was
>basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it got
>here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
>less, don't they.
>
>They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to put
>a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
>
>
>
>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
>
>> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

>



David C. Moller 05-09-2004 06:38 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
*should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
guys IMO.

Dave

On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
<jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:

>According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of a
>deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing was
>basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it got
>here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
>less, don't they.
>
>They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to put
>a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
>
>
>
>"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
>news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
>
>> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

>



Muuurgh 05-09-2004 06:55 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able to
get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000 cash
back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes (I
may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to sell
you YOUR Jeep.

Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place to
start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them that
you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or go
to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is), make
sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to finalize
your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until you
get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They should do
everything they can in order to make you happy.

-Muuurgh

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> guys IMO.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of

a
> >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing

was
> >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it

got
> >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
> >less, don't they.
> >
> >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to

put
> >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> >
> >
> >
> >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> >
> >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

> >

>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 06:55 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able to
get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000 cash
back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes (I
may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to sell
you YOUR Jeep.

Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place to
start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them that
you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or go
to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is), make
sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to finalize
your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until you
get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They should do
everything they can in order to make you happy.

-Muuurgh

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> guys IMO.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of

a
> >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing

was
> >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it

got
> >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
> >less, don't they.
> >
> >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to

put
> >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> >
> >
> >
> >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> >
> >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

> >

>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 06:55 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able to
get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000 cash
back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes (I
may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to sell
you YOUR Jeep.

Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place to
start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them that
you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or go
to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is), make
sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to finalize
your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until you
get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They should do
everything they can in order to make you happy.

-Muuurgh

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> guys IMO.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of

a
> >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing

was
> >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it

got
> >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
> >less, don't they.
> >
> >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to

put
> >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> >
> >
> >
> >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> >
> >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

> >

>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 06:55 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able to
get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000 cash
back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes (I
may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to sell
you YOUR Jeep.

Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place to
start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them that
you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or go
to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is), make
sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to finalize
your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until you
get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They should do
everything they can in order to make you happy.

-Muuurgh

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> guys IMO.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side of

a
> >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing

was
> >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until it

got
> >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more or
> >less, don't they.
> >
> >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to

put
> >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> >
> >
> >
> >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> >
> >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??

> >

>




HarryS 05-09-2004 06:59 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Smells like a big bull stinky to me.

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
"Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
news:2g7r6hF56ua8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
> ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able

to
> get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000

cash
> back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes (I
> may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
> haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to sell
> you YOUR Jeep.
>
> Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place

to
> start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
> threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them

that
> you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or go
> to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is), make
> sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to finalize
> your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until you
> get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They should

do
> everything they can in order to make you happy.
>
> -Muuurgh
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> > Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> > *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> > they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> > before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> > before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> > be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> > with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> > guys IMO.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> > <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side

of
> a
> > >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing

> was
> > >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until

it
> got
> > >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more

or
> > >less, don't they.
> > >
> > >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to

> put
> > >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> > >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> > >
> > >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
> > >

> >

>
>




HarryS 05-09-2004 06:59 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Smells like a big bull stinky to me.

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
"Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
news:2g7r6hF56ua8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
> ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able

to
> get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000

cash
> back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes (I
> may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
> haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to sell
> you YOUR Jeep.
>
> Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place

to
> start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
> threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them

that
> you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or go
> to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is), make
> sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to finalize
> your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until you
> get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They should

do
> everything they can in order to make you happy.
>
> -Muuurgh
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> > Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> > *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> > they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> > before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> > before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> > be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> > with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> > guys IMO.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> > <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side

of
> a
> > >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing

> was
> > >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until

it
> got
> > >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more

or
> > >less, don't they.
> > >
> > >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to

> put
> > >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> > >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> > >
> > >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
> > >

> >

>
>




HarryS 05-09-2004 06:59 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Smells like a big bull stinky to me.

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
"Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
news:2g7r6hF56ua8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
> ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able

to
> get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000

cash
> back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes (I
> may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
> haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to sell
> you YOUR Jeep.
>
> Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place

to
> start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
> threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them

that
> you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or go
> to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is), make
> sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to finalize
> your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until you
> get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They should

do
> everything they can in order to make you happy.
>
> -Muuurgh
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> > Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> > *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> > they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> > before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> > before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> > be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> > with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> > guys IMO.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> > <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side

of
> a
> > >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing

> was
> > >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until

it
> got
> > >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more

or
> > >less, don't they.
> > >
> > >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to

> put
> > >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> > >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> > >
> > >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
> > >

> >

>
>




HarryS 05-09-2004 06:59 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
Smells like a big bull stinky to me.

--
HarryS
JAFGBR
JAFTJO
"Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
news:2g7r6hF56ua8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
> ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able

to
> get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000

cash
> back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes (I
> may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
> haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to sell
> you YOUR Jeep.
>
> Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place

to
> start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
> threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them

that
> you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or go
> to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is), make
> sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to finalize
> your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until you
> get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They should

do
> everything they can in order to make you happy.
>
> -Muuurgh
>
> "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> > Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> > *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> > they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> > before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> > before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> > be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> > with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> > guys IMO.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> > <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance side

of
> a
> > >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the thing

> was
> > >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until

it
> got
> > >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more

or
> > >less, don't they.
> > >
> > >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me to

> put
> > >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> > >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> > >
> > >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
> > >

> >

>
>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
It's not. I got the EP because I graduated this semester.

-Muuurgh

"HarryS" <harry-s@NoSpam.Net> wrote in message
news:g8udndjiHIxbKgPdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> Smells like a big bull stinky to me.
>
> --
> HarryS
> JAFGBR
> JAFTJO
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:2g7r6hF56ua8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
> > ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able

> to
> > get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000

> cash
> > back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes

(I
> > may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
> > haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to

sell
> > you YOUR Jeep.
> >
> > Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place

> to
> > start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
> > threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them

> that
> > you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or

go
> > to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is),

make
> > sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to

finalize
> > your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until

you
> > get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They

should
> do
> > everything they can in order to make you happy.
> >
> > -Muuurgh
> >
> > "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> > > Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> > > *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> > > they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> > > before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> > > before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> > > be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> > > with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> > > guys IMO.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> > > <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance

side
> of
> > a
> > > >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the

thing
> > was
> > > >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until

> it
> > got
> > > >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more

> or
> > > >less, don't they.
> > > >
> > > >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me

to
> > put
> > > >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> > > >
> > > >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
It's not. I got the EP because I graduated this semester.

-Muuurgh

"HarryS" <harry-s@NoSpam.Net> wrote in message
news:g8udndjiHIxbKgPdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> Smells like a big bull stinky to me.
>
> --
> HarryS
> JAFGBR
> JAFTJO
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:2g7r6hF56ua8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
> > ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able

> to
> > get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000

> cash
> > back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes

(I
> > may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
> > haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to

sell
> > you YOUR Jeep.
> >
> > Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place

> to
> > start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
> > threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them

> that
> > you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or

go
> > to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is),

make
> > sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to

finalize
> > your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until

you
> > get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They

should
> do
> > everything they can in order to make you happy.
> >
> > -Muuurgh
> >
> > "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> > > Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> > > *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> > > they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> > > before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> > > before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> > > be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> > > with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> > > guys IMO.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> > > <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance

side
> of
> > a
> > > >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the

thing
> > was
> > > >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until

> it
> > got
> > > >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more

> or
> > > >less, don't they.
> > > >
> > > >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me

to
> > put
> > > >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> > > >
> > > >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Muuurgh 05-09-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Rubicon Price Negotiation
 
It's not. I got the EP because I graduated this semester.

-Muuurgh

"HarryS" <harry-s@NoSpam.Net> wrote in message
news:g8udndjiHIxbKgPdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> Smells like a big bull stinky to me.
>
> --
> HarryS
> JAFGBR
> JAFTJO
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:2g7r6hF56ua8U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > The loan rate is a big issue as well. Because of the internet and the
> > ability to order from any dealership nationwide you should still be able

> to
> > get rock bottom prices--if you can haggle. This is what I got: $2000

> cash
> > back + 2.99 % financing, 2% under invoice and lifetime $10 oil changes

(I
> > may not use the oil change deal, but it was a nice throw in). Haggle,
> > haggle, haggle. The dealer will dislike you for it, but they want to

sell
> > you YOUR Jeep.
> >
> > Price and print a quote from www.jeepwarehouse.com That's a great place

> to
> > start--they have really good prices and a good history (you can always
> > threaten to order your Jeep from Bill. Go to your dealer and tell them

> that
> > you are a member of a credit union and you can get 2.99 % financing (or

go
> > to your bank first and see what the best deal they can give you is),

make
> > sure you haggle with a couple other dealerships before you go to

finalize
> > your deal at the dealership you wish to buy a Jeep from, in fact until

you
> > get these prices, or a ball park figure near them, walk out. They

should
> do
> > everything they can in order to make you happy.
> >
> > -Muuurgh
> >
> > "David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:lict90l37jkcb0tib5f2k9tg9nilsec1fb@4ax.com...
> > > Sure, perhaps financing couldn't progress, but financing and price
> > > *should* be two different things. That's a typical dealer ploy IMO...
> > > they tie financing into the price. I *always* have my financing set
> > > before walking into a dealership these days... been bit by that
> > > before. If the dealership can get me a better rate on my loan, then so
> > > be it, and I go their route. But that shouldn't have anything to do
> > > with the actual purchase price of the vehicle. Be careful of these
> > > guys IMO.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Sun, 09 May 2004 22:24:41 GMT, "Jeffrey Wright"
> > > <jkwright@swbell.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > >According to the dealer, we could make no progress on the finance

side
> of
> > a
> > > >deal until we had a VIN number and we wouldn't get that until the

thing
> > was
> > > >basically on the truck to south Texas, so we might as well wait until

> it
> > got
> > > >here . . . Sounded like a canard to me, but they call the shots, more

> or
> > > >less, don't they.
> > > >
> > > >They have been treating me well, I'll give them that, never asked me

to
> > put
> > > >a cent down. So am I a VIP or am I off to slaughter tomorrow?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:<3n8t905op8fllaftjihjbl3r6hut7f7tif@4ax.com> ...
> > > >
> > > >> You mean you didnt settle on a price before ordering??
> > > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>





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