RoyJ

IIRC Supper Swampers are a bias ply tire, get rather lousy tire mileage.

janette wrote:

> We have an '89 Jeep Wrangler that will be undergoing some
> modifications. First on the list is a lift, wheels, and tires-can't do
> one without the other:) My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express
> lift with 33" tires (x11.50 or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned
> about the lift height-I was thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to
> increase the chances of rolling, but I know we need enough lift to
> prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any experiences? Also tires. I
> like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find it doesn't
> come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions?? One
> last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
> with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked at
> Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and
> we need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.
>

RoyJ

IIRC Supper Swampers are a bias ply tire, get rather lousy tire mileage.

janette wrote:

> We have an '89 Jeep Wrangler that will be undergoing some
> modifications. First on the list is a lift, wheels, and tires-can't do
> one without the other:) My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express
> lift with 33" tires (x11.50 or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned
> about the lift height-I was thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to
> increase the chances of rolling, but I know we need enough lift to
> prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any experiences? Also tires. I
> like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find it doesn't
> come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions?? One
> last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
> with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked at
> Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and
> we need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.
>

RoyJ

IIRC Supper Swampers are a bias ply tire, get rather lousy tire mileage.

janette wrote:

> We have an '89 Jeep Wrangler that will be undergoing some
> modifications. First on the list is a lift, wheels, and tires-can't do
> one without the other:) My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express
> lift with 33" tires (x11.50 or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned
> about the lift height-I was thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to
> increase the chances of rolling, but I know we need enough lift to
> prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any experiences? Also tires. I
> like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find it doesn't
> come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions?? One
> last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
> with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked at
> Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and
> we need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.
>

SoK66

< My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express lift with 33" tires (x11.50
or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned about the lift height-I was
thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to increase the chances of rolling,
but I know we need enough lift to prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any
experiences? >

I've had the RE 4.5" kit on my '94 YJ since '02 and am very pleased with the
performance. Great ride, excellent flex on trails and minimal sag (around
1/4" total). I've flogged it over numerous trails including Moab and the
Rubicon. Nary and issue. Probably among the best YJ spring lifts out there.
You can run 35's with it if you install a 1" body lift, or install TJ
flares.

< Also tires. Like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find
it doesn't come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions??

Don't have any experience with Toyos, though one of our club members just
got a set of their 37s. The SSR radials are excellent, the only knock I've
ever heard on Swampers from anyone is short tread life on the older bias ply
tires. I've run BFG MTs for years and have had great luck with them, only
one sidewall cut that would have likely taken out anything. Excellent wear
characteristics, too. The Goodyear MT/Rs are another superb choice.

<One last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked at
Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and we
need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.>

Either of them are excellent. I also like Durango4x4.com products, but
they're also pricy. Currie Enterprises makes an excellent bumper as well.
Stay away from stuff like "Rock Crusher" and some of the cheaper stuff,
total junk offshore knock offs. Warn's bumpers are somewhere in between in
terms of quality, but a good value. As for the winch, you have a lot of
choices. Rule of thumb, buy one rated for 2x your vehicles loaded weight.
For a YJ that's 8,000 - 9,000 lb rating. I've had a Warn XD9000i on mine
since '96 and it's always worked well. You need to be careful that the front
bumper you buy either has a built in winch mount compatible with the winch
you chose, or that the winch manufacturers YJ kit will work with the bumper.
Their respective product info will usually state what goes with what.

Good luck, sounds like it'll be a really nice Jeep.

SoK66

< My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express lift with 33" tires (x11.50
or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned about the lift height-I was
thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to increase the chances of rolling,
but I know we need enough lift to prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any
experiences? >

I've had the RE 4.5" kit on my '94 YJ since '02 and am very pleased with the
performance. Great ride, excellent flex on trails and minimal sag (around
1/4" total). I've flogged it over numerous trails including Moab and the
Rubicon. Nary and issue. Probably among the best YJ spring lifts out there.
You can run 35's with it if you install a 1" body lift, or install TJ
flares.

< Also tires. Like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find
it doesn't come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions??

Don't have any experience with Toyos, though one of our club members just
got a set of their 37s. The SSR radials are excellent, the only knock I've
ever heard on Swampers from anyone is short tread life on the older bias ply
tires. I've run BFG MTs for years and have had great luck with them, only
one sidewall cut that would have likely taken out anything. Excellent wear
characteristics, too. The Goodyear MT/Rs are another superb choice.

<One last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked at
Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and we
need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.>

Either of them are excellent. I also like Durango4x4.com products, but
they're also pricy. Currie Enterprises makes an excellent bumper as well.
Stay away from stuff like "Rock Crusher" and some of the cheaper stuff,
total junk offshore knock offs. Warn's bumpers are somewhere in between in
terms of quality, but a good value. As for the winch, you have a lot of
choices. Rule of thumb, buy one rated for 2x your vehicles loaded weight.
For a YJ that's 8,000 - 9,000 lb rating. I've had a Warn XD9000i on mine
since '96 and it's always worked well. You need to be careful that the front
bumper you buy either has a built in winch mount compatible with the winch
you chose, or that the winch manufacturers YJ kit will work with the bumper.
Their respective product info will usually state what goes with what.

Good luck, sounds like it'll be a really nice Jeep.

SoK66

< My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express lift with 33" tires (x11.50
or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned about the lift height-I was
thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to increase the chances of rolling,
but I know we need enough lift to prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any
experiences? >

I've had the RE 4.5" kit on my '94 YJ since '02 and am very pleased with the
performance. Great ride, excellent flex on trails and minimal sag (around
1/4" total). I've flogged it over numerous trails including Moab and the
Rubicon. Nary and issue. Probably among the best YJ spring lifts out there.
You can run 35's with it if you install a 1" body lift, or install TJ
flares.

< Also tires. Like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find
it doesn't come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions??

Don't have any experience with Toyos, though one of our club members just
got a set of their 37s. The SSR radials are excellent, the only knock I've
ever heard on Swampers from anyone is short tread life on the older bias ply
tires. I've run BFG MTs for years and have had great luck with them, only
one sidewall cut that would have likely taken out anything. Excellent wear
characteristics, too. The Goodyear MT/Rs are another superb choice.

<One last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked at
Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and we
need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.>

Either of them are excellent. I also like Durango4x4.com products, but
they're also pricy. Currie Enterprises makes an excellent bumper as well.
Stay away from stuff like "Rock Crusher" and some of the cheaper stuff,
total junk offshore knock offs. Warn's bumpers are somewhere in between in
terms of quality, but a good value. As for the winch, you have a lot of
choices. Rule of thumb, buy one rated for 2x your vehicles loaded weight.
For a YJ that's 8,000 - 9,000 lb rating. I've had a Warn XD9000i on mine
since '96 and it's always worked well. You need to be careful that the front
bumper you buy either has a built in winch mount compatible with the winch
you chose, or that the winch manufacturers YJ kit will work with the bumper.
Their respective product info will usually state what goes with what.

Good luck, sounds like it'll be a really nice Jeep.

Eric

I bought them used ($200+old A/Ts I had for 5 -- one brand new and the other
at least 90% tread). They're wearing just fine. I've only had them on
since October, though.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41ec8290$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> So, far, so Good for me, Eric. How many miles on the BFG'S? How have they
> worn? I've got about 3k on my MT/R's, still look new and still ride
> better
> than the old Goodyear RT/S's I had before. I haven't aired down much past
> 15psi, but I'm sure I don't go nearly as hard as you do. :-D
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:65%Gd.26203$Z%.11738@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>> I have the BFG MTs and love them. I swear they're smoother and quieter
> than
>> the A/Ts I had before. That and I air down to 9 psi when I hit the
> trails.
>> I've had the sidewalls pinched a number of times and never had any
>> issues.
>>
>> I haven't used the MT/Rs before, but looked at them too. Heard they're a
>> great tire.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:41ec7060_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > For the tires, I would have to reccomend Goodyear MT/R's. I have a set
> and
>> > love them.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "janette" <jo'neal@naumes.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1106013628.686014.24830@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> We have an '89 Jeep Wrangler that will be undergoing some
>> >> modifications. First on the list is a lift, wheels, and tires-can't
>> >> do
>> >> one without the other:) My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express
>> >> lift with 33" tires (x11.50 or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned
>> >> about the lift height-I was thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to
>> >> increase the chances of rolling, but I know we need enough lift to
>> >> prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any experiences? Also tires.
>> >> I
>> >> like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find it doesn't
>> >> come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions?? One
>> >> last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
>> >> with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked
>> >> at
>> >> Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and
>> >> we need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Eric

I bought them used ($200+old A/Ts I had for 5 -- one brand new and the other
at least 90% tread). They're wearing just fine. I've only had them on
since October, though.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41ec8290$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> So, far, so Good for me, Eric. How many miles on the BFG'S? How have they
> worn? I've got about 3k on my MT/R's, still look new and still ride
> better
> than the old Goodyear RT/S's I had before. I haven't aired down much past
> 15psi, but I'm sure I don't go nearly as hard as you do. :-D
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:65%Gd.26203$Z%.11738@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>> I have the BFG MTs and love them. I swear they're smoother and quieter
> than
>> the A/Ts I had before. That and I air down to 9 psi when I hit the
> trails.
>> I've had the sidewalls pinched a number of times and never had any
>> issues.
>>
>> I haven't used the MT/Rs before, but looked at them too. Heard they're a
>> great tire.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:41ec7060_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > For the tires, I would have to reccomend Goodyear MT/R's. I have a set
> and
>> > love them.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "janette" <jo'neal@naumes.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1106013628.686014.24830@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> We have an '89 Jeep Wrangler that will be undergoing some
>> >> modifications. First on the list is a lift, wheels, and tires-can't
>> >> do
>> >> one without the other:) My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express
>> >> lift with 33" tires (x11.50 or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned
>> >> about the lift height-I was thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to
>> >> increase the chances of rolling, but I know we need enough lift to
>> >> prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any experiences? Also tires.
>> >> I
>> >> like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find it doesn't
>> >> come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions?? One
>> >> last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
>> >> with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked
>> >> at
>> >> Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and
>> >> we need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Eric

I bought them used ($200+old A/Ts I had for 5 -- one brand new and the other
at least 90% tread). They're wearing just fine. I've only had them on
since October, though.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41ec8290$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> So, far, so Good for me, Eric. How many miles on the BFG'S? How have they
> worn? I've got about 3k on my MT/R's, still look new and still ride
> better
> than the old Goodyear RT/S's I had before. I haven't aired down much past
> 15psi, but I'm sure I don't go nearly as hard as you do. :-D
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:65%Gd.26203$Z%.11738@fe1.texas.rr.com...
>> I have the BFG MTs and love them. I swear they're smoother and quieter
> than
>> the A/Ts I had before. That and I air down to 9 psi when I hit the
> trails.
>> I've had the sidewalls pinched a number of times and never had any
>> issues.
>>
>> I haven't used the MT/Rs before, but looked at them too. Heard they're a
>> great tire.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:41ec7060_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > For the tires, I would have to reccomend Goodyear MT/R's. I have a set
> and
>> > love them.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "janette" <jo'neal@naumes.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1106013628.686014.24830@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> We have an '89 Jeep Wrangler that will be undergoing some
>> >> modifications. First on the list is a lift, wheels, and tires-can't
>> >> do
>> >> one without the other:) My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon Express
>> >> lift with 33" tires (x11.50 or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm concerned
>> >> about the lift height-I was thinking 4" would be good, I don't want to
>> >> increase the chances of rolling, but I know we need enough lift to
>> >> prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any experiences? Also tires.
>> >> I
>> >> like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find it doesn't
>> >> come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions?? One
>> >> last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
>> >> with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked
>> >> at
>> >> Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier and
>> >> we need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Carl Saiyed

Got mine the day before Thanksgivng. So far, I am very pleased. Will
definately be buying them again.

Carl


"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:V7EHd.33059$_56.24770@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> I bought them used ($200+old A/Ts I had for 5 -- one brand new and the
other
> at least 90% tread). They're wearing just fine. I've only had them on
> since October, though.
>
> Eric
> 99 TJ SE
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:41ec8290$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > So, far, so Good for me, Eric. How many miles on the BFG'S? How have
they
> > worn? I've got about 3k on my MT/R's, still look new and still ride
> > better
> > than the old Goodyear RT/S's I had before. I haven't aired down much
past
> > 15psi, but I'm sure I don't go nearly as hard as you do. :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> > news:65%Gd.26203$Z%.11738@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> >> I have the BFG MTs and love them. I swear they're smoother and quieter
> > than
> >> the A/Ts I had before. That and I air down to 9 psi when I hit the
> > trails.
> >> I've had the sidewalls pinched a number of times and never had any
> >> issues.
> >>
> >> I haven't used the MT/Rs before, but looked at them too. Heard they're
a
> >> great tire.
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:41ec7060_5@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> > For the tires, I would have to reccomend Goodyear MT/R's. I have a
set
> > and
> >> > love them.
> >> >
> >> > HTH,
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "janette" <jo'neal@naumes.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:1106013628.686014.24830@c13g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> >> >> We have an '89 Jeep Wrangler that will be undergoing some
> >> >> modifications. First on the list is a lift, wheels, and tires-can't
> >> >> do
> >> >> one without the other:) My husband wants to do a 4.5" Rubicon
Express
> >> >> lift with 33" tires (x11.50 or 12.50?-I can't remember) I'm
concerned
> >> >> about the lift height-I was thinking 4" would be good, I don't want
to
> >> >> increase the chances of rolling, but I know we need enough lift to
> >> >> prevent tire rub on the leaf springs. Any experiences? Also tires.
> >> >> I
> >> >> like the new Toyo Open Country M/T but from what I can find it
doesn't
> >> >> come in a 33". He wants Super Swamper SSR's. Any suggestions??
One
> >> >> last question, we need a front bumper with a winch and a rear bumper
> >> >> with swing away tire carrier and gas can attachments. I have looked
> >> >> at
> >> >> Wilderness and Bulletproof. Bulletproof looks better but pricier
and
> >> >> we need the whole set. Any ideas? Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>