rubi gone
#31
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Re: rubi gone
heh...wifey drove an unlimited this weekend, she really likes it...too late
to order an '04 anyway. we'll be looking at the '05 rubicon unlimited when
they start taking orders in a couple months.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
to order an '04 anyway. we'll be looking at the '05 rubicon unlimited when
they start taking orders in a couple months.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
#32
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Re: rubi gone
heh...wifey drove an unlimited this weekend, she really likes it...too late
to order an '04 anyway. we'll be looking at the '05 rubicon unlimited when
they start taking orders in a couple months.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
to order an '04 anyway. we'll be looking at the '05 rubicon unlimited when
they start taking orders in a couple months.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
#33
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Re: rubi gone
heh...wifey drove an unlimited this weekend, she really likes it...too late
to order an '04 anyway. we'll be looking at the '05 rubicon unlimited when
they start taking orders in a couple months.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
to order an '04 anyway. we'll be looking at the '05 rubicon unlimited when
they start taking orders in a couple months.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
#34
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Re: rubi gone
>Subject: Re: rubi gone
>From: "William Oliveri"
>What do you plan for winter months without the hard top? Soft top?
ill just run the soft top. tj heaters are capable of keeping you warm in a
soft top jeep.
> What didn't you like about the hard top?
a hardtop has its practical applications i know.....but if i were wanting to be
practical i would get a minivan. :-) i guess everybody has their own ideas of
what makes a jeep a jeep, and the soft top just does it for me. there are
times when ive been glad i had the hard top, but the hassle of storing it when
i want to run the soft top made the decision for me.
>From: "William Oliveri"
>What do you plan for winter months without the hard top? Soft top?
ill just run the soft top. tj heaters are capable of keeping you warm in a
soft top jeep.
> What didn't you like about the hard top?
a hardtop has its practical applications i know.....but if i were wanting to be
practical i would get a minivan. :-) i guess everybody has their own ideas of
what makes a jeep a jeep, and the soft top just does it for me. there are
times when ive been glad i had the hard top, but the hassle of storing it when
i want to run the soft top made the decision for me.
#35
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Re: rubi gone
>Subject: Re: rubi gone
>From: "William Oliveri"
>What do you plan for winter months without the hard top? Soft top?
ill just run the soft top. tj heaters are capable of keeping you warm in a
soft top jeep.
> What didn't you like about the hard top?
a hardtop has its practical applications i know.....but if i were wanting to be
practical i would get a minivan. :-) i guess everybody has their own ideas of
what makes a jeep a jeep, and the soft top just does it for me. there are
times when ive been glad i had the hard top, but the hassle of storing it when
i want to run the soft top made the decision for me.
>From: "William Oliveri"
>What do you plan for winter months without the hard top? Soft top?
ill just run the soft top. tj heaters are capable of keeping you warm in a
soft top jeep.
> What didn't you like about the hard top?
a hardtop has its practical applications i know.....but if i were wanting to be
practical i would get a minivan. :-) i guess everybody has their own ideas of
what makes a jeep a jeep, and the soft top just does it for me. there are
times when ive been glad i had the hard top, but the hassle of storing it when
i want to run the soft top made the decision for me.
#36
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Re: rubi gone
>Subject: Re: rubi gone
>From: "William Oliveri"
>What do you plan for winter months without the hard top? Soft top?
ill just run the soft top. tj heaters are capable of keeping you warm in a
soft top jeep.
> What didn't you like about the hard top?
a hardtop has its practical applications i know.....but if i were wanting to be
practical i would get a minivan. :-) i guess everybody has their own ideas of
what makes a jeep a jeep, and the soft top just does it for me. there are
times when ive been glad i had the hard top, but the hassle of storing it when
i want to run the soft top made the decision for me.
>From: "William Oliveri"
>What do you plan for winter months without the hard top? Soft top?
ill just run the soft top. tj heaters are capable of keeping you warm in a
soft top jeep.
> What didn't you like about the hard top?
a hardtop has its practical applications i know.....but if i were wanting to be
practical i would get a minivan. :-) i guess everybody has their own ideas of
what makes a jeep a jeep, and the soft top just does it for me. there are
times when ive been glad i had the hard top, but the hassle of storing it when
i want to run the soft top made the decision for me.
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: rubi gone
>Subject: Re: rubi gone
>From: "William Oliveri"
>What do you plan for winter months without the hard top? Soft top?
ill just run the soft top. tj heaters are capable of keeping you warm in a
soft top jeep.
> What didn't you like about the hard top?
a hardtop has its practical applications i know.....but if i were wanting to be
practical i would get a minivan. :-) i guess everybody has their own ideas of
what makes a jeep a jeep, and the soft top just does it for me. there are
times when ive been glad i had the hard top, but the hassle of storing it when
i want to run the soft top made the decision for me.
>From: "William Oliveri"
>What do you plan for winter months without the hard top? Soft top?
ill just run the soft top. tj heaters are capable of keeping you warm in a
soft top jeep.
> What didn't you like about the hard top?
a hardtop has its practical applications i know.....but if i were wanting to be
practical i would get a minivan. :-) i guess everybody has their own ideas of
what makes a jeep a jeep, and the soft top just does it for me. there are
times when ive been glad i had the hard top, but the hassle of storing it when
i want to run the soft top made the decision for me.
#38
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Re: rubi gone
Just curious. Why did you "hate" the hardtop?
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
#39
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Re: rubi gone
Just curious. Why did you "hate" the hardtop?
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
#40
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Re: rubi gone
Just curious. Why did you "hate" the hardtop?
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.
"MontanaJeeper" <montanajeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040707135448.03890.00001057@mb-m19.aol.com...
> i went ahead and sold the rubicon with the (original) intent of ordering
an '05
> rubicon similarly equipped (except without the hard top that ive grown to
hate)
> in solar yellow. i found out last night from ranger dave that the
unlimited
> rubicon will be available in september. when i mentioned this to the
wifey she
> asked that i wait and order an unlimited rubicon instead so it appears im
> jeepless until sometime around september. i dont like the unlimited at
stock
> height but shes agreed to a 4" lift and 33s so that changes everything!
in the
> meantime (dont look bill!) i picked up a polluting '96 f350 crew cab
diesel 4x4
> http://www.imageark.net/0001/Hw0IUh.jpg that i really enjoy so far. if
anyone
> is familiar with the 7.3PSD please contact me privately.
>
> for you rubicon owners out there who might be wondering what the market
value
> is, mine was a fully equipped (dual tops, auto, tint, cruise, subwoofer,
etc)
> '03 with roughly 19,000 miles. i got $21,960 + he sent me $500 to deliver
it
> to dallas texas (driving it down next week).
>
> those of you who have ordered jeeps recently, what is a realistic expected
wait
> time or is it possible to speculate on a new release such as the unlimited
> rubi? (i know the differences are minor, but i also know how the smallest
of
> things can hold up an ordered vehicle)? my local dealership didnt even
know of
> the unlimited rubicon release so he is not accepting orders yet. anyone
know
> of any dealerships within say 500 miles of 59105 (but still in montana, no
> sales tax!) that is accepting advance orders?
> thanks.