Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
08-05-2004, 11:15 PM
#21
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
*anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
demo Libby.
Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
turbine engines, etc.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> "Dealer says it will go away" Tom, do you believe that? I don't!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mabar wrote:
>
>>Bill, that really is quite an over reaction at this stage.
>>
>>The previous poster's suggestion about going for a ride in one of the
>>dealer's demos to see if it has the same rough idle would be my suggestion
>>also. Keep the service department documentation for each time you bring it
>>to the dealer, and wait a few thousand miles and see what happens.
>>
>>Tom
*anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
demo Libby.
Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
turbine engines, etc.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> "Dealer says it will go away" Tom, do you believe that? I don't!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mabar wrote:
>
>>Bill, that really is quite an over reaction at this stage.
>>
>>The previous poster's suggestion about going for a ride in one of the
>>dealer's demos to see if it has the same rough idle would be my suggestion
>>also. Keep the service department documentation for each time you bring it
>>to the dealer, and wait a few thousand miles and see what happens.
>>
>>Tom
08-06-2004, 12:03 AM
#22
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
So if the Stealership showed you another Libby that ran like sh*t,
you'd be happy?
Twelve cylinder Ferrari, Bimmer, and my Father's Lincoln Zephyr,
are so balanced, that I couldn't feel the vibration from them running
while my hand was resting on their hood.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
> *anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
> OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
> demo Libby.
>
> Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
> OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
> turbine engines, etc
you'd be happy?
Twelve cylinder Ferrari, Bimmer, and my Father's Lincoln Zephyr,
are so balanced, that I couldn't feel the vibration from them running
while my hand was resting on their hood.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
> *anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
> OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
> demo Libby.
>
> Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
> OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
> turbine engines, etc
08-06-2004, 12:03 AM
#23
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
So if the Stealership showed you another Libby that ran like sh*t,
you'd be happy?
Twelve cylinder Ferrari, Bimmer, and my Father's Lincoln Zephyr,
are so balanced, that I couldn't feel the vibration from them running
while my hand was resting on their hood.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
> *anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
> OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
> demo Libby.
>
> Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
> OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
> turbine engines, etc
you'd be happy?
Twelve cylinder Ferrari, Bimmer, and my Father's Lincoln Zephyr,
are so balanced, that I couldn't feel the vibration from them running
while my hand was resting on their hood.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
> *anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
> OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
> demo Libby.
>
> Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
> OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
> turbine engines, etc
08-06-2004, 12:03 AM
#24
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
So if the Stealership showed you another Libby that ran like sh*t,
you'd be happy?
Twelve cylinder Ferrari, Bimmer, and my Father's Lincoln Zephyr,
are so balanced, that I couldn't feel the vibration from them running
while my hand was resting on their hood.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
> *anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
> OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
> demo Libby.
>
> Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
> OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
> turbine engines, etc
you'd be happy?
Twelve cylinder Ferrari, Bimmer, and my Father's Lincoln Zephyr,
are so balanced, that I couldn't feel the vibration from them running
while my hand was resting on their hood.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
> *anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
> OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
> demo Libby.
>
> Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
> OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
> turbine engines, etc
08-06-2004, 12:03 AM
#25
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
So if the Stealership showed you another Libby that ran like sh*t,
you'd be happy?
Twelve cylinder Ferrari, Bimmer, and my Father's Lincoln Zephyr,
are so balanced, that I couldn't feel the vibration from them running
while my hand was resting on their hood.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
> *anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
> OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
> demo Libby.
>
> Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
> OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
> turbine engines, etc
you'd be happy?
Twelve cylinder Ferrari, Bimmer, and my Father's Lincoln Zephyr,
are so balanced, that I couldn't feel the vibration from them running
while my hand was resting on their hood.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> I dunno. I'm still struggling with spending that much money on
> *anything* without driving a demonstrator. Which would allow the
> OP to at least sanity check their particular engine against the
> demo Libby.
>
> Rough means different things to different people... perhaps the
> OP has only driven rotary engines, 12 cylinder Italian engines,
> turbine engines, etc
08-06-2004, 12:25 AM
#26
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
In message <654a503b.0408050514.510895d8@posting.google.com >, "Eduardo B."
wrote:
>Since the very first moment I sat on the vehicle I noticed the idle
>was rough. But I was way too tired with the whole dealership buying
>process (4 hours) that I left without paying too much attention. After
>two days of driving it around I can definitely say that the idle is
>rough. It is not too bad, but still, it is a brand new jeep and what
>characterize new vehicles is that you won't even notice the engine
>running.
If you're expecting not to notice the engine running, your expectations are too
high. You will feel the engine running.
You didn't drive the car before going through the tiring 4 hour process? Sounds
a little backwards to me.
>When you wait on a red signal you can feel the engine
>vibrating. Dealer says it will go away, but it has not, and I don't
>think it will. As a matter of fact, it has worsened. Are these V6, 3.7
>engines rough?
>
>Thanks!
wrote:
>Since the very first moment I sat on the vehicle I noticed the idle
>was rough. But I was way too tired with the whole dealership buying
>process (4 hours) that I left without paying too much attention. After
>two days of driving it around I can definitely say that the idle is
>rough. It is not too bad, but still, it is a brand new jeep and what
>characterize new vehicles is that you won't even notice the engine
>running.
If you're expecting not to notice the engine running, your expectations are too
high. You will feel the engine running.
You didn't drive the car before going through the tiring 4 hour process? Sounds
a little backwards to me.
>When you wait on a red signal you can feel the engine
>vibrating. Dealer says it will go away, but it has not, and I don't
>think it will. As a matter of fact, it has worsened. Are these V6, 3.7
>engines rough?
>
>Thanks!
08-06-2004, 12:25 AM
#27
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
In message <654a503b.0408050514.510895d8@posting.google.com >, "Eduardo B."
wrote:
>Since the very first moment I sat on the vehicle I noticed the idle
>was rough. But I was way too tired with the whole dealership buying
>process (4 hours) that I left without paying too much attention. After
>two days of driving it around I can definitely say that the idle is
>rough. It is not too bad, but still, it is a brand new jeep and what
>characterize new vehicles is that you won't even notice the engine
>running.
If you're expecting not to notice the engine running, your expectations are too
high. You will feel the engine running.
You didn't drive the car before going through the tiring 4 hour process? Sounds
a little backwards to me.
>When you wait on a red signal you can feel the engine
>vibrating. Dealer says it will go away, but it has not, and I don't
>think it will. As a matter of fact, it has worsened. Are these V6, 3.7
>engines rough?
>
>Thanks!
wrote:
>Since the very first moment I sat on the vehicle I noticed the idle
>was rough. But I was way too tired with the whole dealership buying
>process (4 hours) that I left without paying too much attention. After
>two days of driving it around I can definitely say that the idle is
>rough. It is not too bad, but still, it is a brand new jeep and what
>characterize new vehicles is that you won't even notice the engine
>running.
If you're expecting not to notice the engine running, your expectations are too
high. You will feel the engine running.
You didn't drive the car before going through the tiring 4 hour process? Sounds
a little backwards to me.
>When you wait on a red signal you can feel the engine
>vibrating. Dealer says it will go away, but it has not, and I don't
>think it will. As a matter of fact, it has worsened. Are these V6, 3.7
>engines rough?
>
>Thanks!
08-06-2004, 12:25 AM
#28
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
In message <654a503b.0408050514.510895d8@posting.google.com >, "Eduardo B."
wrote:
>Since the very first moment I sat on the vehicle I noticed the idle
>was rough. But I was way too tired with the whole dealership buying
>process (4 hours) that I left without paying too much attention. After
>two days of driving it around I can definitely say that the idle is
>rough. It is not too bad, but still, it is a brand new jeep and what
>characterize new vehicles is that you won't even notice the engine
>running.
If you're expecting not to notice the engine running, your expectations are too
high. You will feel the engine running.
You didn't drive the car before going through the tiring 4 hour process? Sounds
a little backwards to me.
>When you wait on a red signal you can feel the engine
>vibrating. Dealer says it will go away, but it has not, and I don't
>think it will. As a matter of fact, it has worsened. Are these V6, 3.7
>engines rough?
>
>Thanks!
wrote:
>Since the very first moment I sat on the vehicle I noticed the idle
>was rough. But I was way too tired with the whole dealership buying
>process (4 hours) that I left without paying too much attention. After
>two days of driving it around I can definitely say that the idle is
>rough. It is not too bad, but still, it is a brand new jeep and what
>characterize new vehicles is that you won't even notice the engine
>running.
If you're expecting not to notice the engine running, your expectations are too
high. You will feel the engine running.
You didn't drive the car before going through the tiring 4 hour process? Sounds
a little backwards to me.
>When you wait on a red signal you can feel the engine
>vibrating. Dealer says it will go away, but it has not, and I don't
>think it will. As a matter of fact, it has worsened. Are these V6, 3.7
>engines rough?
>
>Thanks!
08-06-2004, 12:25 AM
#29
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
In message <654a503b.0408050514.510895d8@posting.google.com >, "Eduardo B."
wrote:
>Since the very first moment I sat on the vehicle I noticed the idle
>was rough. But I was way too tired with the whole dealership buying
>process (4 hours) that I left without paying too much attention. After
>two days of driving it around I can definitely say that the idle is
>rough. It is not too bad, but still, it is a brand new jeep and what
>characterize new vehicles is that you won't even notice the engine
>running.
If you're expecting not to notice the engine running, your expectations are too
high. You will feel the engine running.
You didn't drive the car before going through the tiring 4 hour process? Sounds
a little backwards to me.
>When you wait on a red signal you can feel the engine
>vibrating. Dealer says it will go away, but it has not, and I don't
>think it will. As a matter of fact, it has worsened. Are these V6, 3.7
>engines rough?
>
>Thanks!
wrote:
>Since the very first moment I sat on the vehicle I noticed the idle
>was rough. But I was way too tired with the whole dealership buying
>process (4 hours) that I left without paying too much attention. After
>two days of driving it around I can definitely say that the idle is
>rough. It is not too bad, but still, it is a brand new jeep and what
>characterize new vehicles is that you won't even notice the engine
>running.
If you're expecting not to notice the engine running, your expectations are too
high. You will feel the engine running.
You didn't drive the car before going through the tiring 4 hour process? Sounds
a little backwards to me.
>When you wait on a red signal you can feel the engine
>vibrating. Dealer says it will go away, but it has not, and I don't
>think it will. As a matter of fact, it has worsened. Are these V6, 3.7
>engines rough?
>
>Thanks!
08-06-2004, 09:08 AM
#30
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Re: Rough idle on BRAND NEW Jeep Liberty, dealer wont do anything.
I think he may have misunderstood. The dealer said to the OP..."Go away!"
At any rate, I doubt he would have a lemon law case because "feeling the
engine running" isn't necessarily a serious mechanical defect. That said,
the lemon law rep I dealt with with my wife's Honda told me of a case where
a vehicle's luggage rack whistled at highway speeds and the owner filed suit
under the lemon law and the dealership took it back.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4112DDCA.4943C452@***.net...
> "Dealer says it will go away" Tom, do you believe that? I don't!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > Bill, that really is quite an over reaction at this stage.
> >
> > The previous poster's suggestion about going for a ride in one of the
> > dealer's demos to see if it has the same rough idle would be my
suggestion
> > also. Keep the service department documentation for each time you bring
it
> > to the dealer, and wait a few thousand miles and see what happens.
> >
> > Tom
At any rate, I doubt he would have a lemon law case because "feeling the
engine running" isn't necessarily a serious mechanical defect. That said,
the lemon law rep I dealt with with my wife's Honda told me of a case where
a vehicle's luggage rack whistled at highway speeds and the owner filed suit
under the lemon law and the dealership took it back.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4112DDCA.4943C452@***.net...
> "Dealer says it will go away" Tom, do you believe that? I don't!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > Bill, that really is quite an over reaction at this stage.
> >
> > The previous poster's suggestion about going for a ride in one of the
> > dealer's demos to see if it has the same rough idle would be my
suggestion
> > also. Keep the service department documentation for each time you bring
it
> > to the dealer, and wait a few thousand miles and see what happens.
> >
> > Tom