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nrs 08-20-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello Jeepers,

>
> > I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> > YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> > drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> > geometry.

>
> > I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> > place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> > in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> > what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> > colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?

>
> > Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

>
> > TIA,
> > David

>
> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
is going on.



Mike Romain 08-21-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
nrs wrote:
> On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello Jeepers,
>>> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
>>> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
>>> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
>>> geometry.
>>> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
>>> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
>>> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
>>> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
>>> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
>>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>> TIA,
>>> David

>> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
>> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
>> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
>> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
>> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
> condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
> these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
> is going on.
>
>


I am going to add a third to that!

I would be inspecting the driveshaft, it's u-joints or even the axle
u-joints behind the wheels.

Front vibes 'caused' by a 4" lift, isn't something anyone has complained
about on this group.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 08-21-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
nrs wrote:
> On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello Jeepers,
>>> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
>>> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
>>> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
>>> geometry.
>>> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
>>> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
>>> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
>>> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
>>> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
>>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>> TIA,
>>> David

>> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
>> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
>> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
>> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
>> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
> condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
> these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
> is going on.
>
>


I am going to add a third to that!

I would be inspecting the driveshaft, it's u-joints or even the axle
u-joints behind the wheels.

Front vibes 'caused' by a 4" lift, isn't something anyone has complained
about on this group.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 08-21-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
nrs wrote:
> On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello Jeepers,
>>> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
>>> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
>>> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
>>> geometry.
>>> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
>>> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
>>> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
>>> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
>>> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
>>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>> TIA,
>>> David

>> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
>> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
>> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
>> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
>> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
> condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
> these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
> is going on.
>
>


I am going to add a third to that!

I would be inspecting the driveshaft, it's u-joints or even the axle
u-joints behind the wheels.

Front vibes 'caused' by a 4" lift, isn't something anyone has complained
about on this group.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 08-21-2007 10:25 AM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
nrs wrote:
> On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello Jeepers,
>>> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
>>> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
>>> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
>>> geometry.
>>> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
>>> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
>>> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
>>> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
>>> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
>>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>> TIA,
>>> David

>> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
>> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
>> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
>> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
>> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
> condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
> these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
> is going on.
>
>


I am going to add a third to that!

I would be inspecting the driveshaft, it's u-joints or even the axle
u-joints behind the wheels.

Front vibes 'caused' by a 4" lift, isn't something anyone has complained
about on this group.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

zstasch@yahoo.com 08-21-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
Thank you for all your responses! I assumed the problem was the pinon
angle because the vibes started at the same time I put the taller
springs on but perhaps that just exaggerated some vibes I couldn't
feel before. I'll check the u-joints and driveline balance to see if
I can find the problem. Thanks again, your advice has been most
helpful!

Take care,
David


On Aug 21, 8:25 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> nrs wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.google groups.com...

>
> >>> Hello Jeepers,
> >>> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> >>> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> >>> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> >>> geometry.
> >>> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> >>> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> >>> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> >>> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> >>> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
> >>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >>> TIA,
> >>> David
> >> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
> >> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
> >> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
> >> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
> >> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
> > condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
> > these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
> > is going on.

>
> I am going to add a third to that!
>
> I would be inspecting the driveshaft, it's u-joints or even the axle
> u-joints behind the wheels.
>
> Front vibes 'caused' by a 4" lift, isn't something anyone has complained
> about on this group.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -







zstasch@yahoo.com 08-21-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
Thank you for all your responses! I assumed the problem was the pinon
angle because the vibes started at the same time I put the taller
springs on but perhaps that just exaggerated some vibes I couldn't
feel before. I'll check the u-joints and driveline balance to see if
I can find the problem. Thanks again, your advice has been most
helpful!

Take care,
David


On Aug 21, 8:25 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> nrs wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.google groups.com...

>
> >>> Hello Jeepers,
> >>> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> >>> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> >>> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> >>> geometry.
> >>> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> >>> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> >>> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> >>> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> >>> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
> >>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >>> TIA,
> >>> David
> >> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
> >> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
> >> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
> >> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
> >> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
> > condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
> > these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
> > is going on.

>
> I am going to add a third to that!
>
> I would be inspecting the driveshaft, it's u-joints or even the axle
> u-joints behind the wheels.
>
> Front vibes 'caused' by a 4" lift, isn't something anyone has complained
> about on this group.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -







zstasch@yahoo.com 08-21-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
Thank you for all your responses! I assumed the problem was the pinon
angle because the vibes started at the same time I put the taller
springs on but perhaps that just exaggerated some vibes I couldn't
feel before. I'll check the u-joints and driveline balance to see if
I can find the problem. Thanks again, your advice has been most
helpful!

Take care,
David


On Aug 21, 8:25 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> nrs wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.google groups.com...

>
> >>> Hello Jeepers,
> >>> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> >>> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> >>> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> >>> geometry.
> >>> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> >>> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> >>> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> >>> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> >>> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
> >>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >>> TIA,
> >>> David
> >> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
> >> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
> >> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
> >> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
> >> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
> > condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
> > these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
> > is going on.

>
> I am going to add a third to that!
>
> I would be inspecting the driveshaft, it's u-joints or even the axle
> u-joints behind the wheels.
>
> Front vibes 'caused' by a 4" lift, isn't something anyone has complained
> about on this group.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -







zstasch@yahoo.com 08-21-2007 06:41 PM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
Thank you for all your responses! I assumed the problem was the pinon
angle because the vibes started at the same time I put the taller
springs on but perhaps that just exaggerated some vibes I couldn't
feel before. I'll check the u-joints and driveline balance to see if
I can find the problem. Thanks again, your advice has been most
helpful!

Take care,
David


On Aug 21, 8:25 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> nrs wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.google groups.com...

>
> >>> Hello Jeepers,
> >>> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> >>> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> >>> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> >>> geometry.
> >>> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> >>> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> >>> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> >>> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> >>> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
> >>> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
> >>> TIA,
> >>> David
> >> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
> >> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
> >> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
> >> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
> >> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
> > condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
> > these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
> > is going on.

>
> I am going to add a third to that!
>
> I would be inspecting the driveshaft, it's u-joints or even the axle
> u-joints behind the wheels.
>
> Front vibes 'caused' by a 4" lift, isn't something anyone has complained
> about on this group.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -








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