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SnoMan 08-20-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:31:43 -0700, "zstasch@yahoo.com"
<zstasch@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I'm moving too slow on the trail to notice any vibrations, but when I
>hit 4 hi on the snow covered streets, the vibrations make me cringe so
>bad that I don't even use the 4wd.



Why not simply install a aftermarket CV in fron drive shaft where it
connects to pinion? Given short drive shaft it is a viable long term
solution. Though some do it is is not advisable to rotate axle forward
and remove positive caster to improve drive angle a bit.
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TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 08-20-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:31:43 -0700, "zstasch@yahoo.com"
<zstasch@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I'm moving too slow on the trail to notice any vibrations, but when I
>hit 4 hi on the snow covered streets, the vibrations make me cringe so
>bad that I don't even use the 4wd.



Why not simply install a aftermarket CV in fron drive shaft where it
connects to pinion? Given short drive shaft it is a viable long term
solution. Though some do it is is not advisable to rotate axle forward
and remove positive caster to improve drive angle a bit.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 08-20-2007 08:15 AM

Re: Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 20:31:43 -0700, "zstasch@yahoo.com"
<zstasch@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I'm moving too slow on the trail to notice any vibrations, but when I
>hit 4 hi on the snow covered streets, the vibrations make me cringe so
>bad that I don't even use the 4wd.



Why not simply install a aftermarket CV in fron drive shaft where it
connects to pinion? Given short drive shaft it is a viable long term
solution. Though some do it is is not advisable to rotate axle forward
and remove positive caster to improve drive angle a bit.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Raptor 08-20-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 

<zstasch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello Jeepers,
>
> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> geometry.
>
> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
>
> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA,
> David
>


This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.



Raptor 08-20-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 

<zstasch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello Jeepers,
>
> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> geometry.
>
> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
>
> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA,
> David
>


This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.



Raptor 08-20-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 

<zstasch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello Jeepers,
>
> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> geometry.
>
> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
>
> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA,
> David
>


This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.



Raptor 08-20-2007 10:49 AM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 

<zstasch@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello Jeepers,
>
> I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> geometry.
>
> I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?
>
> Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> TIA,
> David
>


This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.



nrs 08-20-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello Jeepers,

>
> > I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> > YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> > drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> > geometry.

>
> > I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> > place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> > in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> > what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> > colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?

>
> > Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

>
> > TIA,
> > David

>
> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
is going on.



nrs 08-20-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello Jeepers,

>
> > I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> > YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> > drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> > geometry.

>
> > I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> > place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> > in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> > what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> > colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?

>
> > Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

>
> > TIA,
> > David

>
> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
is going on.



nrs 08-20-2007 02:48 PM

Re: Rotating front pinon on YJ
 
On Aug 20, 9:49 am, "Raptor" <I_AM_Rap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <zsta...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187577009.368403.201250@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello Jeepers,

>
> > I'd like to correct the pinon angle on the Dana 30 in front of my '93
> > YJ. It has a 4" SUA lift and has some vibration while in 4 wheel
> > drive. I don't want to use any degree shims and mess up the stering
> > geometry.

>
> > I'm thinking about drilling out the welds that hold the axle tubes in
> > place, rotating the pumpkin to desired angle and weld the holes back
> > in place. Would this be the easiest way to go about this? If so,
> > what do I use to drill out the welds. Is there something better than
> > colbalt drill bits and lots of cutting oil?

>
> > Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

>
> > TIA,
> > David

>
> This is asking the obvious, but just in case:
> Have you checked the front driveshaft if it is balanced?
> The front driveshaft on the YJ isn't real short and I can't think that a 4"
> lift is going to be enough to create vibes. I would check out the
> driveshaft being balanced as well as the condition of the ujoints.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I agree the balance should be checked first along with the general
condition of the u-joints. A lot of jeeps have 4 inch lifts without
these vibrations coming up so there is a strong chance something else
is going on.




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