Roof Rack!
05-25-2006, 05:52 PM
#31
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Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack!
I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued on skid
plate and the rust holes through it.....
You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
Mike
Seahag wrote:
>
> I feel better now:
>
> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
>
> Seahag
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well, at
> > least it's a long weekend!
> >
> > Seahag
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know what I
> >> am going to
> >> say next....
> >>
> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in contact
> >> with
> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
> >> totally away. The
> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
> >> through from that
> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant for
> >> body metal or
> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Seahag wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so salt
> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of silicone
> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
> >>> penetration.
> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
> >>> bolt
> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >>>
> >>> Seahag
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
> >>> >loctite.
> >>> >Both products
> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
> >>> >
> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep was
> >>> > new
> >>> > enough not to
> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights down
> >>> > the
> >>> > road
> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> >>> >
> >>> > Mike
> >>> >
> >>> > Seahag wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is there
> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems like
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Seahag
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground through
> >>> >> > their
> >>> >> > bolts and
> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
> >>> >> > rusty
> >>> >> > part
> >>> >> > of the bolt on
> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
> >>> >> > happen
> >>> >> > when you hit the
> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Mike
> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
> >>> >> > tail
> >>> >> > in
> >>> >> > '00
> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
> >>> >> > still
> >>> >> > view!
> >>> >> > Jan/06
> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
> >>> >> > page)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple days,
> >>> >> >> off
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
> >>> >> >> window
> >>> >> >> hinge
> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> impact
> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
> >>> >> >> cinch to
> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get the
> >>> >> >> whole
> >>> >> >> thing
> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything up!
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off the
> >>> >> >> rear
> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out junk
> >>> >> >> yards,
> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Seahag
> >
> >
plate and the rust holes through it.....
You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
Mike
Seahag wrote:
>
> I feel better now:
>
> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
>
> Seahag
>
> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well, at
> > least it's a long weekend!
> >
> > Seahag
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know what I
> >> am going to
> >> say next....
> >>
> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in contact
> >> with
> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
> >> totally away. The
> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
> >> through from that
> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant for
> >> body metal or
> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> Seahag wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so salt
> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of silicone
> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
> >>> penetration.
> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
> >>> bolt
> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >>>
> >>> Seahag
> >>>
> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
> >>> >loctite.
> >>> >Both products
> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
> >>> >
> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep was
> >>> > new
> >>> > enough not to
> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights down
> >>> > the
> >>> > road
> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> >>> >
> >>> > Mike
> >>> >
> >>> > Seahag wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is there
> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems like
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Seahag
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground through
> >>> >> > their
> >>> >> > bolts and
> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
> >>> >> > rusty
> >>> >> > part
> >>> >> > of the bolt on
> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
> >>> >> > happen
> >>> >> > when you hit the
> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Mike
> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to
> >>> >> > tail
> >>> >> > in
> >>> >> > '00
> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
> >>> >> > still
> >>> >> > view!
> >>> >> > Jan/06
> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
> >>> >> > page)
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple days,
> >>> >> >> off
> >>> >> >> and
> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
> >>> >> >> window
> >>> >> >> hinge
> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> impact
> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
> >>> >> >> cinch to
> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get the
> >>> >> >> whole
> >>> >> >> thing
> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything up!
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off the
> >>> >> >> rear
> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out junk
> >>> >> >> yards,
> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> Seahag
> >
> >
05-25-2006, 10:07 PM
#32
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack!
Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
thang:^)
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
>on skid
> plate and the rust holes through it.....
>
> You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
>
> Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> I feel better now:
>>
>> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
>> > at
>> > least it's a long weekend!
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
>> >> what I
>> >> am going to
>> >> say next....
>> >>
>> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
>> >> contact
>> >> with
>> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
>> >> totally away. The
>> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
>> >> through from that
>> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
>> >> for
>> >> body metal or
>> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Seahag wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
>> >>> salt
>> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
>> >>> silicone
>> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
>> >>> penetration.
>> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
>> >>> bolt
>> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
>> >>>
>> >>> Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
>> >>> >loctite.
>> >>> >Both products
>> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > new
>> >>> > enough not to
>> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
>> >>> > down
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > road
>> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Mike
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
>> >>> >> there
>> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
>> >>> >> like
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Seahag
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
>> >>> >> > through
>> >>> >> > their
>> >>> >> > bolts and
>> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
>> >>> >> > rusty
>> >>> >> > part
>> >>> >> > of the bolt on
>> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
>> >>> >> > happen
>> >>> >> > when you hit the
>> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Mike
>> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > tail
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > '00
>> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>> >>> >> > still
>> >>> >> > view!
>> >>> >> > Jan/06
>> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>> >>> >> > page)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
>> >>> >> >> days,
>> >>> >> >> off
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
>> >>> >> >> window
>> >>> >> >> hinge
>> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> impact
>> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
>> >>> >> >> cinch to
>> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> whole
>> >>> >> >> thing
>> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
>> >>> >> >> up!
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> rear
>> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
>> >>> >> >> junk
>> >>> >> >> yards,
>> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Seahag
>> >
>> >
directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
thang:^)
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
>on skid
> plate and the rust holes through it.....
>
> You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
>
> Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> I feel better now:
>>
>> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
>> > at
>> > least it's a long weekend!
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
>> >> what I
>> >> am going to
>> >> say next....
>> >>
>> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
>> >> contact
>> >> with
>> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
>> >> totally away. The
>> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
>> >> through from that
>> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
>> >> for
>> >> body metal or
>> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Seahag wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
>> >>> salt
>> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
>> >>> silicone
>> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
>> >>> penetration.
>> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
>> >>> bolt
>> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
>> >>>
>> >>> Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
>> >>> >loctite.
>> >>> >Both products
>> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > new
>> >>> > enough not to
>> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
>> >>> > down
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > road
>> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Mike
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
>> >>> >> there
>> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
>> >>> >> like
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Seahag
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
>> >>> >> > through
>> >>> >> > their
>> >>> >> > bolts and
>> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
>> >>> >> > rusty
>> >>> >> > part
>> >>> >> > of the bolt on
>> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
>> >>> >> > happen
>> >>> >> > when you hit the
>> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Mike
>> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > tail
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > '00
>> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>> >>> >> > still
>> >>> >> > view!
>> >>> >> > Jan/06
>> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>> >>> >> > page)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
>> >>> >> >> days,
>> >>> >> >> off
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
>> >>> >> >> window
>> >>> >> >> hinge
>> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> impact
>> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
>> >>> >> >> cinch to
>> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> whole
>> >>> >> >> thing
>> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
>> >>> >> >> up!
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> rear
>> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
>> >>> >> >> junk
>> >>> >> >> yards,
>> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Seahag
>> >
>> >
05-25-2006, 10:07 PM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack!
Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
thang:^)
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
>on skid
> plate and the rust holes through it.....
>
> You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
>
> Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> I feel better now:
>>
>> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
>> > at
>> > least it's a long weekend!
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
>> >> what I
>> >> am going to
>> >> say next....
>> >>
>> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
>> >> contact
>> >> with
>> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
>> >> totally away. The
>> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
>> >> through from that
>> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
>> >> for
>> >> body metal or
>> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Seahag wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
>> >>> salt
>> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
>> >>> silicone
>> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
>> >>> penetration.
>> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
>> >>> bolt
>> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
>> >>>
>> >>> Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
>> >>> >loctite.
>> >>> >Both products
>> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > new
>> >>> > enough not to
>> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
>> >>> > down
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > road
>> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Mike
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
>> >>> >> there
>> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
>> >>> >> like
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Seahag
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
>> >>> >> > through
>> >>> >> > their
>> >>> >> > bolts and
>> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
>> >>> >> > rusty
>> >>> >> > part
>> >>> >> > of the bolt on
>> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
>> >>> >> > happen
>> >>> >> > when you hit the
>> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Mike
>> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > tail
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > '00
>> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>> >>> >> > still
>> >>> >> > view!
>> >>> >> > Jan/06
>> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>> >>> >> > page)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
>> >>> >> >> days,
>> >>> >> >> off
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
>> >>> >> >> window
>> >>> >> >> hinge
>> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> impact
>> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
>> >>> >> >> cinch to
>> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> whole
>> >>> >> >> thing
>> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
>> >>> >> >> up!
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> rear
>> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
>> >>> >> >> junk
>> >>> >> >> yards,
>> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Seahag
>> >
>> >
directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
thang:^)
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
>on skid
> plate and the rust holes through it.....
>
> You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
>
> Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> I feel better now:
>>
>> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
>> > at
>> > least it's a long weekend!
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
>> >> what I
>> >> am going to
>> >> say next....
>> >>
>> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
>> >> contact
>> >> with
>> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
>> >> totally away. The
>> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
>> >> through from that
>> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
>> >> for
>> >> body metal or
>> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Seahag wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
>> >>> salt
>> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
>> >>> silicone
>> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
>> >>> penetration.
>> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
>> >>> bolt
>> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
>> >>>
>> >>> Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
>> >>> >loctite.
>> >>> >Both products
>> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > new
>> >>> > enough not to
>> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
>> >>> > down
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > road
>> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Mike
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
>> >>> >> there
>> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
>> >>> >> like
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Seahag
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
>> >>> >> > through
>> >>> >> > their
>> >>> >> > bolts and
>> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
>> >>> >> > rusty
>> >>> >> > part
>> >>> >> > of the bolt on
>> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
>> >>> >> > happen
>> >>> >> > when you hit the
>> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Mike
>> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > tail
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > '00
>> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>> >>> >> > still
>> >>> >> > view!
>> >>> >> > Jan/06
>> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>> >>> >> > page)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
>> >>> >> >> days,
>> >>> >> >> off
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
>> >>> >> >> window
>> >>> >> >> hinge
>> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> impact
>> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
>> >>> >> >> cinch to
>> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> whole
>> >>> >> >> thing
>> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
>> >>> >> >> up!
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> rear
>> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
>> >>> >> >> junk
>> >>> >> >> yards,
>> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Seahag
>> >
>> >
05-25-2006, 10:07 PM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack!
Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
thang:^)
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
>on skid
> plate and the rust holes through it.....
>
> You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
>
> Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> I feel better now:
>>
>> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
>> > at
>> > least it's a long weekend!
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
>> >> what I
>> >> am going to
>> >> say next....
>> >>
>> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
>> >> contact
>> >> with
>> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
>> >> totally away. The
>> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
>> >> through from that
>> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
>> >> for
>> >> body metal or
>> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Seahag wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
>> >>> salt
>> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
>> >>> silicone
>> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
>> >>> penetration.
>> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
>> >>> bolt
>> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
>> >>>
>> >>> Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
>> >>> >loctite.
>> >>> >Both products
>> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > new
>> >>> > enough not to
>> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
>> >>> > down
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > road
>> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Mike
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
>> >>> >> there
>> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
>> >>> >> like
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Seahag
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
>> >>> >> > through
>> >>> >> > their
>> >>> >> > bolts and
>> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
>> >>> >> > rusty
>> >>> >> > part
>> >>> >> > of the bolt on
>> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
>> >>> >> > happen
>> >>> >> > when you hit the
>> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Mike
>> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > tail
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > '00
>> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>> >>> >> > still
>> >>> >> > view!
>> >>> >> > Jan/06
>> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>> >>> >> > page)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
>> >>> >> >> days,
>> >>> >> >> off
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
>> >>> >> >> window
>> >>> >> >> hinge
>> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> impact
>> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
>> >>> >> >> cinch to
>> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> whole
>> >>> >> >> thing
>> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
>> >>> >> >> up!
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> rear
>> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
>> >>> >> >> junk
>> >>> >> >> yards,
>> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Seahag
>> >
>> >
directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
thang:^)
Seahag
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
>on skid
> plate and the rust holes through it.....
>
> You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
>
> Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
>>
>> I feel better now:
>>
>> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
>>
>> Seahag
>>
>> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
>> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
>> > at
>> > least it's a long weekend!
>> >
>> > Seahag
>> >
>> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
>> >> what I
>> >> am going to
>> >> say next....
>> >>
>> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
>> >> contact
>> >> with
>> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
>> >> totally away. The
>> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
>> >> through from that
>> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
>> >> for
>> >> body metal or
>> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Seahag wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
>> >>> salt
>> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
>> >>> silicone
>> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
>> >>> penetration.
>> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
>> >>> bolt
>> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
>> >>>
>> >>> Seahag
>> >>>
>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
>> >>> >loctite.
>> >>> >Both products
>> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
>> >>> > was
>> >>> > new
>> >>> > enough not to
>> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
>> >>> > down
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > road
>> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Mike
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
>> >>> >> there
>> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
>> >>> >> like
>> >>> >> the
>> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Seahag
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
>> >>> >> > through
>> >>> >> > their
>> >>> >> > bolts and
>> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
>> >>> >> > rusty
>> >>> >> > part
>> >>> >> > of the bolt on
>> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
>> >>> >> > happen
>> >>> >> > when you hit the
>> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Mike
>> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
>> >>> >> > to
>> >>> >> > tail
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > '00
>> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
>> >>> >> > still
>> >>> >> > view!
>> >>> >> > Jan/06
>> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
>> >>> >> > page)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
>> >>> >> >> days,
>> >>> >> >> off
>> >>> >> >> and
>> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
>> >>> >> >> window
>> >>> >> >> hinge
>> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> impact
>> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
>> >>> >> >> cinch to
>> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> whole
>> >>> >> >> thing
>> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
>> >>> >> >> up!
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
>> >>> >> >> the
>> >>> >> >> rear
>> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
>> >>> >> >> junk
>> >>> >> >> yards,
>> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Seahag
>> >
>> >
05-25-2006, 10:52 PM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack!
Hmm, good thing for me I live in a dry place. That acid is acetic acid,
same as vinegar. It seems as if they tell you to put silicone on everything
nowadays.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4475F9F4.A7FFE0B4@sympatico.ca...
> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know what I am going to
> say next....
>
> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in contact with
> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal totally away. The
> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted through from that
> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant for body metal or
> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
> >
> > Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so salt
> > protection is second nature. I ran a bead of silicone
> > _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water penetration.
> > Made things really interesting to hold while I got a bolt
> > in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >
> > Seahag
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and loctite.
> > >Both products
> > > keep corrosion away really well.
> > >
> > > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep was new
> > > enough not to
> > > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights down the
> > > road
> > > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Seahag wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is there
> > >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems like the
> > >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> > >>
> > >> Seahag
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground through their
> > >> > bolts and
> > >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a rusty
> > >> > part
> > >> > of the bolt on
> > >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to happen
> > >> > when you hit the
> > >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > >> > in
> > >> > '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> > >> > view!
> > >> > Jan/06
> > >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> >
> > >> > Seahag wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple days, off
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My window
> > >> >> hinge
> > >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed the
> > >> >> impact
> > >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a cinch to
> > >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get the whole
> > >> >> thing
> > >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything up!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off the rear
> > >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out junk
> > >> >> yards,
> > >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Seahag
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
same as vinegar. It seems as if they tell you to put silicone on everything
nowadays.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4475F9F4.A7FFE0B4@sympatico.ca...
> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know what I am going to
> say next....
>
> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in contact with
> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal totally away. The
> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted through from that
> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant for body metal or
> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
> >
> > Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so salt
> > protection is second nature. I ran a bead of silicone
> > _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water penetration.
> > Made things really interesting to hold while I got a bolt
> > in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >
> > Seahag
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and loctite.
> > >Both products
> > > keep corrosion away really well.
> > >
> > > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep was new
> > > enough not to
> > > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights down the
> > > road
> > > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Seahag wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is there
> > >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems like the
> > >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> > >>
> > >> Seahag
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground through their
> > >> > bolts and
> > >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a rusty
> > >> > part
> > >> > of the bolt on
> > >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to happen
> > >> > when you hit the
> > >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > >> > in
> > >> > '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> > >> > view!
> > >> > Jan/06
> > >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> >
> > >> > Seahag wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple days, off
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My window
> > >> >> hinge
> > >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed the
> > >> >> impact
> > >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a cinch to
> > >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get the whole
> > >> >> thing
> > >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything up!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off the rear
> > >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out junk
> > >> >> yards,
> > >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Seahag
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
05-25-2006, 10:52 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack!
Hmm, good thing for me I live in a dry place. That acid is acetic acid,
same as vinegar. It seems as if they tell you to put silicone on everything
nowadays.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4475F9F4.A7FFE0B4@sympatico.ca...
> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know what I am going to
> say next....
>
> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in contact with
> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal totally away. The
> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted through from that
> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant for body metal or
> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
> >
> > Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so salt
> > protection is second nature. I ran a bead of silicone
> > _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water penetration.
> > Made things really interesting to hold while I got a bolt
> > in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >
> > Seahag
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and loctite.
> > >Both products
> > > keep corrosion away really well.
> > >
> > > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep was new
> > > enough not to
> > > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights down the
> > > road
> > > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Seahag wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is there
> > >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems like the
> > >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> > >>
> > >> Seahag
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground through their
> > >> > bolts and
> > >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a rusty
> > >> > part
> > >> > of the bolt on
> > >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to happen
> > >> > when you hit the
> > >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > >> > in
> > >> > '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> > >> > view!
> > >> > Jan/06
> > >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> >
> > >> > Seahag wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple days, off
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My window
> > >> >> hinge
> > >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed the
> > >> >> impact
> > >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a cinch to
> > >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get the whole
> > >> >> thing
> > >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything up!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off the rear
> > >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out junk
> > >> >> yards,
> > >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Seahag
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
same as vinegar. It seems as if they tell you to put silicone on everything
nowadays.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4475F9F4.A7FFE0B4@sympatico.ca...
> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know what I am going to
> say next....
>
> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in contact with
> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal totally away. The
> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted through from that
> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant for body metal or
> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
> >
> > Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so salt
> > protection is second nature. I ran a bead of silicone
> > _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water penetration.
> > Made things really interesting to hold while I got a bolt
> > in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >
> > Seahag
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and loctite.
> > >Both products
> > > keep corrosion away really well.
> > >
> > > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep was new
> > > enough not to
> > > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights down the
> > > road
> > > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Seahag wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is there
> > >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems like the
> > >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> > >>
> > >> Seahag
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground through their
> > >> > bolts and
> > >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a rusty
> > >> > part
> > >> > of the bolt on
> > >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to happen
> > >> > when you hit the
> > >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > >> > in
> > >> > '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> > >> > view!
> > >> > Jan/06
> > >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> >
> > >> > Seahag wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple days, off
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My window
> > >> >> hinge
> > >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed the
> > >> >> impact
> > >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a cinch to
> > >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get the whole
> > >> >> thing
> > >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything up!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off the rear
> > >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out junk
> > >> >> yards,
> > >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Seahag
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05-25-2006, 10:52 PM
#37
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Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack!
Hmm, good thing for me I live in a dry place. That acid is acetic acid,
same as vinegar. It seems as if they tell you to put silicone on everything
nowadays.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4475F9F4.A7FFE0B4@sympatico.ca...
> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know what I am going to
> say next....
>
> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in contact with
> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal totally away. The
> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted through from that
> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant for body metal or
> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
> >
> > Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so salt
> > protection is second nature. I ran a bead of silicone
> > _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water penetration.
> > Made things really interesting to hold while I got a bolt
> > in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >
> > Seahag
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and loctite.
> > >Both products
> > > keep corrosion away really well.
> > >
> > > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep was new
> > > enough not to
> > > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights down the
> > > road
> > > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Seahag wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is there
> > >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems like the
> > >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> > >>
> > >> Seahag
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground through their
> > >> > bolts and
> > >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a rusty
> > >> > part
> > >> > of the bolt on
> > >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to happen
> > >> > when you hit the
> > >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > >> > in
> > >> > '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> > >> > view!
> > >> > Jan/06
> > >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> >
> > >> > Seahag wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple days, off
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My window
> > >> >> hinge
> > >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed the
> > >> >> impact
> > >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a cinch to
> > >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get the whole
> > >> >> thing
> > >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything up!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off the rear
> > >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out junk
> > >> >> yards,
> > >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Seahag
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same as vinegar. It seems as if they tell you to put silicone on everything
nowadays.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4475F9F4.A7FFE0B4@sympatico.ca...
> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know what I am going to
> say next....
>
> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in contact with
> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal totally away. The
> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted through from that
> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant for body metal or
> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
>
> Mike
>
> Seahag wrote:
> >
> > Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so salt
> > protection is second nature. I ran a bead of silicone
> > _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water penetration.
> > Made things really interesting to hold while I got a bolt
> > in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >
> > Seahag
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and loctite.
> > >Both products
> > > keep corrosion away really well.
> > >
> > > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep was new
> > > enough not to
> > > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights down the
> > > road
> > > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > Seahag wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is there
> > >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems like the
> > >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> > >>
> > >> Seahag
> > >>
> > >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground through their
> > >> > bolts and
> > >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a rusty
> > >> > part
> > >> > of the bolt on
> > >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to happen
> > >> > when you hit the
> > >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> > >> >
> > >> > Mike
> > >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail
> > >> > in
> > >> > '00
> > >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still
> > >> > view!
> > >> > Jan/06
> > >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >> >
> > >> > Seahag wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple days, off
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My window
> > >> >> hinge
> > >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed the
> > >> >> impact
> > >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a cinch to
> > >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get the whole
> > >> >> thing
> > >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything up!
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off the rear
> > >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out junk
> > >> >> yards,
> > >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Seahag
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05-26-2006, 11:26 AM
#38
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Re: Roof Rack! Now Silicone and Steel Rot
We had quite the thread going about the effects of silicone on metal a
while back here. One gent on the group actually did testing on the
outgassing and it's effects on circuit boards I think it was.
Mike
Seahag wrote:
>
> Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
> directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
> avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
> your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
> and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
> thang:^)
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
> >on skid
> > plate and the rust holes through it.....
> >
> > You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
> >
> > Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >>
> >> I feel better now:
> >>
> >> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
> >>
> >> Seahag
> >>
> >> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
> >> > at
> >> > least it's a long weekend!
> >> >
> >> > Seahag
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
> >> >> what I
> >> >> am going to
> >> >> say next....
> >> >>
> >> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
> >> >> contact
> >> >> with
> >> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
> >> >> totally away. The
> >> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
> >> >> through from that
> >> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
> >> >> for
> >> >> body metal or
> >> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Seahag wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
> >> >>> salt
> >> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
> >> >>> silicone
> >> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
> >> >>> penetration.
> >> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
> >> >>> bolt
> >> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Seahag
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
> >> >>> >loctite.
> >> >>> >Both products
> >> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
> >> >>> > was
> >> >>> > new
> >> >>> > enough not to
> >> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
> >> >>> > down
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > road
> >> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Mike
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
> >> >>> >> there
> >> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
> >> >>> >> like
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Seahag
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
> >> >>> >> > through
> >> >>> >> > their
> >> >>> >> > bolts and
> >> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
> >> >>> >> > rusty
> >> >>> >> > part
> >> >>> >> > of the bolt on
> >> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
> >> >>> >> > happen
> >> >>> >> > when you hit the
> >> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Mike
> >> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
> >> >>> >> > to
> >> >>> >> > tail
> >> >>> >> > in
> >> >>> >> > '00
> >> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
> >> >>> >> > still
> >> >>> >> > view!
> >> >>> >> > Jan/06
> >> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
> >> >>> >> > page)
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
> >> >>> >> >> days,
> >> >>> >> >> off
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
> >> >>> >> >> window
> >> >>> >> >> hinge
> >> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> impact
> >> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
> >> >>> >> >> cinch to
> >> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> whole
> >> >>> >> >> thing
> >> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
> >> >>> >> >> up!
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> rear
> >> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
> >> >>> >> >> junk
> >> >>> >> >> yards,
> >> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Seahag
> >> >
> >> >
while back here. One gent on the group actually did testing on the
outgassing and it's effects on circuit boards I think it was.
Mike
Seahag wrote:
>
> Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
> directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
> avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
> your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
> and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
> thang:^)
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
> >on skid
> > plate and the rust holes through it.....
> >
> > You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
> >
> > Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >>
> >> I feel better now:
> >>
> >> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
> >>
> >> Seahag
> >>
> >> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
> >> > at
> >> > least it's a long weekend!
> >> >
> >> > Seahag
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
> >> >> what I
> >> >> am going to
> >> >> say next....
> >> >>
> >> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
> >> >> contact
> >> >> with
> >> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
> >> >> totally away. The
> >> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
> >> >> through from that
> >> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
> >> >> for
> >> >> body metal or
> >> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Seahag wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
> >> >>> salt
> >> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
> >> >>> silicone
> >> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
> >> >>> penetration.
> >> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
> >> >>> bolt
> >> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Seahag
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
> >> >>> >loctite.
> >> >>> >Both products
> >> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
> >> >>> > was
> >> >>> > new
> >> >>> > enough not to
> >> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
> >> >>> > down
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > road
> >> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Mike
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
> >> >>> >> there
> >> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
> >> >>> >> like
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Seahag
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
> >> >>> >> > through
> >> >>> >> > their
> >> >>> >> > bolts and
> >> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
> >> >>> >> > rusty
> >> >>> >> > part
> >> >>> >> > of the bolt on
> >> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
> >> >>> >> > happen
> >> >>> >> > when you hit the
> >> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Mike
> >> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
> >> >>> >> > to
> >> >>> >> > tail
> >> >>> >> > in
> >> >>> >> > '00
> >> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
> >> >>> >> > still
> >> >>> >> > view!
> >> >>> >> > Jan/06
> >> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
> >> >>> >> > page)
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
> >> >>> >> >> days,
> >> >>> >> >> off
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
> >> >>> >> >> window
> >> >>> >> >> hinge
> >> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> impact
> >> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
> >> >>> >> >> cinch to
> >> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> whole
> >> >>> >> >> thing
> >> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
> >> >>> >> >> up!
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> rear
> >> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
> >> >>> >> >> junk
> >> >>> >> >> yards,
> >> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Seahag
> >> >
> >> >
05-26-2006, 11:26 AM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack! Now Silicone and Steel Rot
We had quite the thread going about the effects of silicone on metal a
while back here. One gent on the group actually did testing on the
outgassing and it's effects on circuit boards I think it was.
Mike
Seahag wrote:
>
> Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
> directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
> avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
> your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
> and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
> thang:^)
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
> >on skid
> > plate and the rust holes through it.....
> >
> > You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
> >
> > Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >>
> >> I feel better now:
> >>
> >> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
> >>
> >> Seahag
> >>
> >> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
> >> > at
> >> > least it's a long weekend!
> >> >
> >> > Seahag
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
> >> >> what I
> >> >> am going to
> >> >> say next....
> >> >>
> >> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
> >> >> contact
> >> >> with
> >> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
> >> >> totally away. The
> >> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
> >> >> through from that
> >> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
> >> >> for
> >> >> body metal or
> >> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Seahag wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
> >> >>> salt
> >> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
> >> >>> silicone
> >> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
> >> >>> penetration.
> >> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
> >> >>> bolt
> >> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Seahag
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
> >> >>> >loctite.
> >> >>> >Both products
> >> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
> >> >>> > was
> >> >>> > new
> >> >>> > enough not to
> >> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
> >> >>> > down
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > road
> >> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Mike
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
> >> >>> >> there
> >> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
> >> >>> >> like
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Seahag
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
> >> >>> >> > through
> >> >>> >> > their
> >> >>> >> > bolts and
> >> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
> >> >>> >> > rusty
> >> >>> >> > part
> >> >>> >> > of the bolt on
> >> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
> >> >>> >> > happen
> >> >>> >> > when you hit the
> >> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Mike
> >> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
> >> >>> >> > to
> >> >>> >> > tail
> >> >>> >> > in
> >> >>> >> > '00
> >> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
> >> >>> >> > still
> >> >>> >> > view!
> >> >>> >> > Jan/06
> >> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
> >> >>> >> > page)
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
> >> >>> >> >> days,
> >> >>> >> >> off
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
> >> >>> >> >> window
> >> >>> >> >> hinge
> >> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> impact
> >> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
> >> >>> >> >> cinch to
> >> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> whole
> >> >>> >> >> thing
> >> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
> >> >>> >> >> up!
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> rear
> >> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
> >> >>> >> >> junk
> >> >>> >> >> yards,
> >> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Seahag
> >> >
> >> >
while back here. One gent on the group actually did testing on the
outgassing and it's effects on circuit boards I think it was.
Mike
Seahag wrote:
>
> Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
> directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
> avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
> your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
> and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
> thang:^)
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
> >on skid
> > plate and the rust holes through it.....
> >
> > You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
> >
> > Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >>
> >> I feel better now:
> >>
> >> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
> >>
> >> Seahag
> >>
> >> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
> >> > at
> >> > least it's a long weekend!
> >> >
> >> > Seahag
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
> >> >> what I
> >> >> am going to
> >> >> say next....
> >> >>
> >> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
> >> >> contact
> >> >> with
> >> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
> >> >> totally away. The
> >> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
> >> >> through from that
> >> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
> >> >> for
> >> >> body metal or
> >> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Seahag wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
> >> >>> salt
> >> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
> >> >>> silicone
> >> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
> >> >>> penetration.
> >> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
> >> >>> bolt
> >> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Seahag
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
> >> >>> >loctite.
> >> >>> >Both products
> >> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
> >> >>> > was
> >> >>> > new
> >> >>> > enough not to
> >> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
> >> >>> > down
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > road
> >> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Mike
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
> >> >>> >> there
> >> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
> >> >>> >> like
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Seahag
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
> >> >>> >> > through
> >> >>> >> > their
> >> >>> >> > bolts and
> >> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
> >> >>> >> > rusty
> >> >>> >> > part
> >> >>> >> > of the bolt on
> >> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
> >> >>> >> > happen
> >> >>> >> > when you hit the
> >> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Mike
> >> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
> >> >>> >> > to
> >> >>> >> > tail
> >> >>> >> > in
> >> >>> >> > '00
> >> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
> >> >>> >> > still
> >> >>> >> > view!
> >> >>> >> > Jan/06
> >> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
> >> >>> >> > page)
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
> >> >>> >> >> days,
> >> >>> >> >> off
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
> >> >>> >> >> window
> >> >>> >> >> hinge
> >> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> impact
> >> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
> >> >>> >> >> cinch to
> >> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> whole
> >> >>> >> >> thing
> >> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
> >> >>> >> >> up!
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> rear
> >> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
> >> >>> >> >> junk
> >> >>> >> >> yards,
> >> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Seahag
> >> >
> >> >
05-26-2006, 11:26 AM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Roof Rack! Now Silicone and Steel Rot
We had quite the thread going about the effects of silicone on metal a
while back here. One gent on the group actually did testing on the
outgassing and it's effects on circuit boards I think it was.
Mike
Seahag wrote:
>
> Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
> directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
> avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
> your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
> and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
> thang:^)
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
> >on skid
> > plate and the rust holes through it.....
> >
> > You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
> >
> > Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >>
> >> I feel better now:
> >>
> >> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
> >>
> >> Seahag
> >>
> >> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
> >> > at
> >> > least it's a long weekend!
> >> >
> >> > Seahag
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
> >> >> what I
> >> >> am going to
> >> >> say next....
> >> >>
> >> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
> >> >> contact
> >> >> with
> >> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
> >> >> totally away. The
> >> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
> >> >> through from that
> >> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
> >> >> for
> >> >> body metal or
> >> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Seahag wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
> >> >>> salt
> >> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
> >> >>> silicone
> >> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
> >> >>> penetration.
> >> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
> >> >>> bolt
> >> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Seahag
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
> >> >>> >loctite.
> >> >>> >Both products
> >> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
> >> >>> > was
> >> >>> > new
> >> >>> > enough not to
> >> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
> >> >>> > down
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > road
> >> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Mike
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
> >> >>> >> there
> >> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
> >> >>> >> like
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Seahag
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
> >> >>> >> > through
> >> >>> >> > their
> >> >>> >> > bolts and
> >> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
> >> >>> >> > rusty
> >> >>> >> > part
> >> >>> >> > of the bolt on
> >> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
> >> >>> >> > happen
> >> >>> >> > when you hit the
> >> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Mike
> >> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
> >> >>> >> > to
> >> >>> >> > tail
> >> >>> >> > in
> >> >>> >> > '00
> >> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
> >> >>> >> > still
> >> >>> >> > view!
> >> >>> >> > Jan/06
> >> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
> >> >>> >> > page)
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
> >> >>> >> >> days,
> >> >>> >> >> off
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
> >> >>> >> >> window
> >> >>> >> >> hinge
> >> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> impact
> >> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
> >> >>> >> >> cinch to
> >> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> whole
> >> >>> >> >> thing
> >> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
> >> >>> >> >> up!
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> rear
> >> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
> >> >>> >> >> junk
> >> >>> >> >> yards,
> >> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Seahag
> >> >
> >> >
while back here. One gent on the group actually did testing on the
outgassing and it's effects on circuit boards I think it was.
Mike
Seahag wrote:
>
> Wasn't me...the manufacturer included it with the kit and
> directions. I just put it extra on the tail lights. We've
> avoided silicone like the plague on boats. While I trust
> your opinion on things Jeep and camping (love the trailer
> and duck) I like second opinions too. It's a Geezette
> thang:^)
>
> Seahag
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >I could take a photo of a CJ7 oil pan with a silicone glued
> >on skid
> > plate and the rust holes through it.....
> >
> > You aren't the only one who thought it was a good idea....
> >
> > Stock, they use 2 sided tape for the skid plate.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Seahag wrote:
> >>
> >> I feel better now:
> >>
> >> http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...l-pan-skid.htm
> >>
> >> Seahag
> >>
> >> "Seahag" <Seahag@toadymail.net> wrote in message
> >> news:44760c70_3@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> >> > Crikey, I knew I'd have to take something apart. Well,
> >> > at
> >> > least it's a long weekend!
> >> >
> >> > Seahag
> >> >
> >> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >> Aww geese.... Then you really' don't want to know
> >> >> what I
> >> >> am going to
> >> >> say next....
> >> >>
> >> >> Silicone out gasses a gas that turns into acid in
> >> >> contact
> >> >> with
> >> >> water/humidity. This acid will eat the body metal
> >> >> totally away. The
> >> >> number of windshield frames I have seen totally rotted
> >> >> through from that
> >> >> is amazing. Normally one would use a butyl sealant
> >> >> for
> >> >> body metal or
> >> >> stuff they call 'seam sealer'.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >> Seahag wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Ah, Neverseize and Eversieze! I live on a boat so
> >> >>> salt
> >> >>> protection is second nature. I ran a bead of
> >> >>> silicone
> >> >>> _around_ the 3 bolt triangle to slow down water
> >> >>> penetration.
> >> >>> Made things really interesting to hold while I got a
> >> >>> bolt
> >> >>> in, next time I'm having an awl handy!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Seahag
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >I live in the salt belt so I like antiseize and
> >> >>> >loctite.
> >> >>> >Both products
> >> >>> > keep corrosion away really well.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > If they are now working ok, then likely your Jeep
> >> >>> > was
> >> >>> > new
> >> >>> > enough not to
> >> >>> > have immediate issues. If you get strange lights
> >> >>> > down
> >> >>> > the
> >> >>> > road
> >> >>> > sometime, just think of those bolts first... ;-)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Mike
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Akkk! And there I was all proud of myself! Is
> >> >>> >> there
> >> >>> >> something I should do to neutralize this? Seems
> >> >>> >> like
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> lights are now grounded on the tub and the rack!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Seahag
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> >>> >> > Just be aware that the tail lights ground
> >> >>> >> > through
> >> >>> >> > their
> >> >>> >> > bolts and
> >> >>> >> > sometimes putting a spacer under them leaves a
> >> >>> >> > rusty
> >> >>> >> > part
> >> >>> >> > of the bolt on
> >> >>> >> > the body metal which can cause strange things to
> >> >>> >> > happen
> >> >>> >> > when you hit the
> >> >>> >> > brakes or signals with the headlights on....
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Mike
> >> >>> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose
> >> >>> >> > to
> >> >>> >> > tail
> >> >>> >> > in
> >> >>> >> > '00
> >> >>> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>> >> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can
> >> >>> >> > still
> >> >>> >> > view!
> >> >>> >> > Jan/06
> >> >>> >> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>> >> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view
> >> >>> >> > page)
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Seahag wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> I'm just tickled pimk! It took me a couple
> >> >>> >> >> days,
> >> >>> >> >> off
> >> >>> >> >> and
> >> >>> >> >> on, to install the rack and it looks great! My
> >> >>> >> >> window
> >> >>> >> >> hinge
> >> >>> >> >> bolts came out with little trouble, only needed
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> impact
> >> >>> >> >> wrench on one bolt, and the tail lights are a
> >> >>> >> >> cinch to
> >> >>> >> >> remove. I'm really pleased I managed to get
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> whole
> >> >>> >> >> thing
> >> >>> >> >> up there, by myself, with out messing anything
> >> >>> >> >> up!
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Oh, and they don't sell just the doohicky off
> >> >>> >> >> the
> >> >>> >> >> rear
> >> >>> >> >> window retaining bar:^( Guess I'll check out
> >> >>> >> >> junk
> >> >>> >> >> yards,
> >> >>> >> >> yay! (I had a Pinto...I luv junk yards...
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> Seahag
> >> >
> >> >