I did the same math you did and decided buying a welder and making my own stuff
was better, cheaper, and more fun than buying it.

My first project was

http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/j...pin-bumper.htm

I used a rattle can to paint it. The paint lasted a couple of years and
innumerable rock bashes, but in time it failed and the bumper was beginning to
rust under the paint. So to do the job right I took it to a powder coating
place and had it sand blasted and powder coated. OMG! The powder coating made
a HUGE difference in how it looked.

I haven't worried too much about fixing the scratches in the powder coating.
They are all underneath and the only thing that sees them are the rocks. And as
it stands right now rocks tremble in fear of this bumper. <lol>

Dean


On 28 Jan 2005 07:56:42 -0800, "Dirty Ditch Dawg" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Well i was going to buy a set of Olympic rocker bars for my jeep,
>then,
>i went and priced a stick welder,,havnt welded since i was 19 :)
>i got it, brought it home,
>ive built a brush-bar on my winch-plate and have re-mounted my
>K-C lihgts, over the winch,
>ive spot-welded my nut-heads on the winch, just two,
>im in the middle of building a sort-of- look-alike
>rocker-bars
>im having a ball, teaching my son how to weld,
>and what flash-burn feels like,,axidentaly,
>how to cut half a finger off, and get 16 stiches,
>with a grinder-wheel,
>all and all,
>,
>so far hes learning NOT to do what im doing,,,,
>,
>im getting more stuff built myself for the same amount of money
>ida spent on one item,
>and having fun doing it.
>,
>but i do have one question,
>whats a tough paint??
>heres where building verses buying gets me, as i cant powder-coat.
>ive anodized tons of aluminum, but cant powder-coat large stuff,
>,
>so i need opinions on a tough paint,
>thanks,
>johnp

 

I did the same math you did and decided buying a welder and making my own stuff
was better, cheaper, and more fun than buying it.

My first project was

http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/j...pin-bumper.htm

I used a rattle can to paint it. The paint lasted a couple of years and
innumerable rock bashes, but in time it failed and the bumper was beginning to
rust under the paint. So to do the job right I took it to a powder coating
place and had it sand blasted and powder coated. OMG! The powder coating made
a HUGE difference in how it looked.

I haven't worried too much about fixing the scratches in the powder coating.
They are all underneath and the only thing that sees them are the rocks. And as
it stands right now rocks tremble in fear of this bumper. <lol>

Dean


On 28 Jan 2005 07:56:42 -0800, "Dirty Ditch Dawg" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Well i was going to buy a set of Olympic rocker bars for my jeep,
>then,
>i went and priced a stick welder,,havnt welded since i was 19 :)
>i got it, brought it home,
>ive built a brush-bar on my winch-plate and have re-mounted my
>K-C lihgts, over the winch,
>ive spot-welded my nut-heads on the winch, just two,
>im in the middle of building a sort-of- look-alike
>rocker-bars
>im having a ball, teaching my son how to weld,
>and what flash-burn feels like,,axidentaly,
>how to cut half a finger off, and get 16 stiches,
>with a grinder-wheel,
>all and all,
>,
>so far hes learning NOT to do what im doing,,,,
>,
>im getting more stuff built myself for the same amount of money
>ida spent on one item,
>and having fun doing it.
>,
>but i do have one question,
>whats a tough paint??
>heres where building verses buying gets me, as i cant powder-coat.
>ive anodized tons of aluminum, but cant powder-coat large stuff,
>,
>so i need opinions on a tough paint,
>thanks,
>johnp

 

I did the same math you did and decided buying a welder and making my own stuff
was better, cheaper, and more fun than buying it.

My first project was

http://home.comcast.net/~1redcreek/j...pin-bumper.htm

I used a rattle can to paint it. The paint lasted a couple of years and
innumerable rock bashes, but in time it failed and the bumper was beginning to
rust under the paint. So to do the job right I took it to a powder coating
place and had it sand blasted and powder coated. OMG! The powder coating made
a HUGE difference in how it looked.

I haven't worried too much about fixing the scratches in the powder coating.
They are all underneath and the only thing that sees them are the rocks. And as
it stands right now rocks tremble in fear of this bumper. <lol>

Dean


On 28 Jan 2005 07:56:42 -0800, "Dirty Ditch Dawg" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Well i was going to buy a set of Olympic rocker bars for my jeep,
>then,
>i went and priced a stick welder,,havnt welded since i was 19 :)
>i got it, brought it home,
>ive built a brush-bar on my winch-plate and have re-mounted my
>K-C lihgts, over the winch,
>ive spot-welded my nut-heads on the winch, just two,
>im in the middle of building a sort-of- look-alike
>rocker-bars
>im having a ball, teaching my son how to weld,
>and what flash-burn feels like,,axidentaly,
>how to cut half a finger off, and get 16 stiches,
>with a grinder-wheel,
>all and all,
>,
>so far hes learning NOT to do what im doing,,,,
>,
>im getting more stuff built myself for the same amount of money
>ida spent on one item,
>and having fun doing it.
>,
>but i do have one question,
>whats a tough paint??
>heres where building verses buying gets me, as i cant powder-coat.
>ive anodized tons of aluminum, but cant powder-coat large stuff,
>,
>so i need opinions on a tough paint,
>thanks,
>johnp

 

I like the look of the Krylon "Hammered"-look paint. I seriously
considered painting my CJ-5's entire frame with it before settling on
POR-15 as a better choice for my application.

As for powder-coating, wasn't there someone here a few years back who
opined that he'd never seen a powder-coated part that didn't rust after a
couple of years of exposure? Has powder-coating technology gotten better?


On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I use either Krylon or Rustoleum - I forget, and I don't think I make any
> attempt to be sure I alwasy use the same. My rocker protection is diamond
> plating and angle iron. I wash it all off every year or so and apply a fresh
> coat of paint. It gets scratched in the mean time, but it's no big deal. If
> I cared, I could paint it after every time I go for a ride. It isn't that
> the paint doesn't stick, it's that I find ways to scrape it off practically
> everytime I go for a ride.
>
> I wouldn't bother with the expense of powder coating the rocker protection.
> If you use your rocker guards right, powder coating will get wiped out
> anyway. Buy a 12 pack of Krylon or Rustoleum, and you can get years of
> touching up.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Dirty Ditch Dawg" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1106927802.104458.192010@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> Well i was going to buy a set of Olympic rocker bars for my jeep,
>> then,
>> i went and priced a stick welder,,havnt welded since i was 19 :)
>> i got it, brought it home,
>> ive built a brush-bar on my winch-plate and have re-mounted my
>> K-C lihgts, over the winch,
>> ive spot-welded my nut-heads on the winch, just two,
>> im in the middle of building a sort-of- look-alike
>> rocker-bars
>> im having a ball, teaching my son how to weld,
>> and what flash-burn feels like,,axidentaly,
>> how to cut half a finger off, and get 16 stiches,
>> with a grinder-wheel,
>> all and all,
>> ,
>> so far hes learning NOT to do what im doing,,,,
>> ,
>> im getting more stuff built myself for the same amount of money
>> ida spent on one item,
>> and having fun doing it.
>> ,
>> but i do have one question,
>> whats a tough paint??
>> heres where building verses buying gets me, as i cant powder-coat.
>> ive anodized tons of aluminum, but cant powder-coat large stuff,
>> ,
>> so i need opinions on a tough paint,
>> thanks,
>> johnp
>>
>
>
>

--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

 

I like the look of the Krylon "Hammered"-look paint. I seriously
considered painting my CJ-5's entire frame with it before settling on
POR-15 as a better choice for my application.

As for powder-coating, wasn't there someone here a few years back who
opined that he'd never seen a powder-coated part that didn't rust after a
couple of years of exposure? Has powder-coating technology gotten better?


On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I use either Krylon or Rustoleum - I forget, and I don't think I make any
> attempt to be sure I alwasy use the same. My rocker protection is diamond
> plating and angle iron. I wash it all off every year or so and apply a fresh
> coat of paint. It gets scratched in the mean time, but it's no big deal. If
> I cared, I could paint it after every time I go for a ride. It isn't that
> the paint doesn't stick, it's that I find ways to scrape it off practically
> everytime I go for a ride.
>
> I wouldn't bother with the expense of powder coating the rocker protection.
> If you use your rocker guards right, powder coating will get wiped out
> anyway. Buy a 12 pack of Krylon or Rustoleum, and you can get years of
> touching up.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Dirty Ditch Dawg" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1106927802.104458.192010@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> Well i was going to buy a set of Olympic rocker bars for my jeep,
>> then,
>> i went and priced a stick welder,,havnt welded since i was 19 :)
>> i got it, brought it home,
>> ive built a brush-bar on my winch-plate and have re-mounted my
>> K-C lihgts, over the winch,
>> ive spot-welded my nut-heads on the winch, just two,
>> im in the middle of building a sort-of- look-alike
>> rocker-bars
>> im having a ball, teaching my son how to weld,
>> and what flash-burn feels like,,axidentaly,
>> how to cut half a finger off, and get 16 stiches,
>> with a grinder-wheel,
>> all and all,
>> ,
>> so far hes learning NOT to do what im doing,,,,
>> ,
>> im getting more stuff built myself for the same amount of money
>> ida spent on one item,
>> and having fun doing it.
>> ,
>> but i do have one question,
>> whats a tough paint??
>> heres where building verses buying gets me, as i cant powder-coat.
>> ive anodized tons of aluminum, but cant powder-coat large stuff,
>> ,
>> so i need opinions on a tough paint,
>> thanks,
>> johnp
>>
>
>
>

--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

 

I like the look of the Krylon "Hammered"-look paint. I seriously
considered painting my CJ-5's entire frame with it before settling on
POR-15 as a better choice for my application.

As for powder-coating, wasn't there someone here a few years back who
opined that he'd never seen a powder-coated part that didn't rust after a
couple of years of exposure? Has powder-coating technology gotten better?


On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I use either Krylon or Rustoleum - I forget, and I don't think I make any
> attempt to be sure I alwasy use the same. My rocker protection is diamond
> plating and angle iron. I wash it all off every year or so and apply a fresh
> coat of paint. It gets scratched in the mean time, but it's no big deal. If
> I cared, I could paint it after every time I go for a ride. It isn't that
> the paint doesn't stick, it's that I find ways to scrape it off practically
> everytime I go for a ride.
>
> I wouldn't bother with the expense of powder coating the rocker protection.
> If you use your rocker guards right, powder coating will get wiped out
> anyway. Buy a 12 pack of Krylon or Rustoleum, and you can get years of
> touching up.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Dirty Ditch Dawg" <scopenutt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1106927802.104458.192010@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> Well i was going to buy a set of Olympic rocker bars for my jeep,
>> then,
>> i went and priced a stick welder,,havnt welded since i was 19 :)
>> i got it, brought it home,
>> ive built a brush-bar on my winch-plate and have re-mounted my
>> K-C lihgts, over the winch,
>> ive spot-welded my nut-heads on the winch, just two,
>> im in the middle of building a sort-of- look-alike
>> rocker-bars
>> im having a ball, teaching my son how to weld,
>> and what flash-burn feels like,,axidentaly,
>> how to cut half a finger off, and get 16 stiches,
>> with a grinder-wheel,
>> all and all,
>> ,
>> so far hes learning NOT to do what im doing,,,,
>> ,
>> im getting more stuff built myself for the same amount of money
>> ida spent on one item,
>> and having fun doing it.
>> ,
>> but i do have one question,
>> whats a tough paint??
>> heres where building verses buying gets me, as i cant powder-coat.
>> ive anodized tons of aluminum, but cant powder-coat large stuff,
>> ,
>> so i need opinions on a tough paint,
>> thanks,
>> johnp
>>
>
>
>

--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.