Tyler Dirden

"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vm6plq47ofc9e4@corp.supernews.com...
> Just to soap box a moment on this issue.
>
> Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
> the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.

As a matter of fact, I think StealHorse went out of business... but I've
also heard they're back with another name selling the same crappy stuff.
Even their plastic parts rust!
td

Don Wallish

> I think StealHorse went out of business... but I've
>also heard they're back with another name selling the same crappy stuff.

I don't know about all their products, but according to this press release:

http://trailmastersuspension.com/smittygroup.html

the former CEO has joined the ranks of Smittybilt. Hopefully he left Steel
Horse's crap behind, but i doubt it.

Don W



'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's

And it finally runs!!!!!

Don Wallish

> I think StealHorse went out of business... but I've
>also heard they're back with another name selling the same crappy stuff.

I don't know about all their products, but according to this press release:

http://trailmastersuspension.com/smittygroup.html

the former CEO has joined the ranks of Smittybilt. Hopefully he left Steel
Horse's crap behind, but i doubt it.

Don W



'82 CJ8 Scrambler
AMC 360
T/F 727
Dana 300
One-piece model 20 rear
Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
2" shackle lift/reversal
2" lift springs of unknown origin
33" Mickey's

And it finally runs!!!!!

Mike Romain

I agree 100%!!!!!!

Got a steelhorse bikini top and all the buckles broke on the first day
in the first gust of wind!

I have personally seen two sets of steelhorse tow hooks come out of the
box already rusted!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Just to soap box a moment on this issue.
>
> Steel Horse, Rock Crusher, etc., are managed by parasites who intentionally
> import crap, often not even tested, which they reverse engineer from quality
> products made by reputable Companies like Currie, Durango, Warn, Bestop,
> etc. These outfits' general scam is to make the items look in catalog print
> just like competitors' functional, high-quality, items and then sell them at
> half-price. The unsuspecting consumer bites on the scam, buys the junk, is
> disappointed and ends up having to spend even more to get the quality item
> they thought they were getting in the first place. Both the consumer and the
> quality mfr lose in the process, the only entities making out in this deal
> are the scumbags at 4 Wheel Parts and the offshore sweatshops.
>
> The only way to fight this is to expose them and their products for what
> they are. If you order an item from any of the usual Jeep suppliers, like 4
> Wheel Hardware, Quadratec, the aforementioned slime at 4 Wheel Parts, etc.
> and it turns out to be some Asian knock-off piece of junk, then send it
> back with a letter of complaint and post it here.
>
> I met the folks at Quadratec's Moab booth back in April and let them know
> without a doubt what I thought about the quality of some of the Steel Horse
> crap they sent me when I was restoring my '76 CJ5. They claim they're not
> using them any longer, but caveat emptor: Before you conclude an order with
> any of the mail order houses mentioned here, demand to know it the stuff is
> from these bogus vendors, and if it is, refuse the order, the delivery, etc.
> Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
> the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.
> .
> "Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vm6nf9k2oait46@corp.supernews.com...
> > OK, guys, thanks for the info, guess I will pass up on this one. Don't
> want
> > my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
> > but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Marty
> >
> > "Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> > news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > > I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not
> pleased.
> > > There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and
> water
> > > rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a
> few
> > bows
> > > to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
> > still
> > > take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> > > I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> > > Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
> > bought
> > > it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
> > >
> > > If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
> > >
> > > Don W
> > >
> > > '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> > > AMC 360
> > > T/F 727
> > > Dana 300
> > > One-piece model 20 rear
> > > Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> > > 2" shackle lift/reversal
> > > 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> > > 33" Mickey's
> > >
> > > And it finally runs!!!!!
> >
> >

Mike Romain

I agree 100%!!!!!!

Got a steelhorse bikini top and all the buckles broke on the first day
in the first gust of wind!

I have personally seen two sets of steelhorse tow hooks come out of the
box already rusted!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>
> Just to soap box a moment on this issue.
>
> Steel Horse, Rock Crusher, etc., are managed by parasites who intentionally
> import crap, often not even tested, which they reverse engineer from quality
> products made by reputable Companies like Currie, Durango, Warn, Bestop,
> etc. These outfits' general scam is to make the items look in catalog print
> just like competitors' functional, high-quality, items and then sell them at
> half-price. The unsuspecting consumer bites on the scam, buys the junk, is
> disappointed and ends up having to spend even more to get the quality item
> they thought they were getting in the first place. Both the consumer and the
> quality mfr lose in the process, the only entities making out in this deal
> are the scumbags at 4 Wheel Parts and the offshore sweatshops.
>
> The only way to fight this is to expose them and their products for what
> they are. If you order an item from any of the usual Jeep suppliers, like 4
> Wheel Hardware, Quadratec, the aforementioned slime at 4 Wheel Parts, etc.
> and it turns out to be some Asian knock-off piece of junk, then send it
> back with a letter of complaint and post it here.
>
> I met the folks at Quadratec's Moab booth back in April and let them know
> without a doubt what I thought about the quality of some of the Steel Horse
> crap they sent me when I was restoring my '76 CJ5. They claim they're not
> using them any longer, but caveat emptor: Before you conclude an order with
> any of the mail order houses mentioned here, demand to know it the stuff is
> from these bogus vendors, and if it is, refuse the order, the delivery, etc.
> Eventually between bad word of mouth and lost sales these outfits will tow
> the line and Steel Horse / Rock Crusher will be out of business.
> .
> "Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vm6nf9k2oait46@corp.supernews.com...
> > OK, guys, thanks for the info, guess I will pass up on this one. Don't
> want
> > my TJ becoming a swimming pool. Bestop has one and is suppose to be tight
> > but it is $500 so guess I'll have to save my pennies.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Marty
> >
> > "Don Wallish" <quicktruck@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> > news:20030913133705.18024.00000643@mb-m24.aol.com...
> > > I wouldn't recommend it. A friend has one on her TJ, and i'm not
> pleased.
> > > There's only three snaps that attach the tonneau to the cab top, and
> water
> > > rolls right in. It may not be as much of an issue if they included a
> few
> > bows
> > > to support the tonneau. You could easily fabricate some, but you would
> > still
> > > take the chance of the water running under the cab top.
> > > I am very much against SteelHorse / RockCrusher /
> > > Whatever-name-they-use-this-year. I warned her seeral times before she
> > bought
> > > it, and i've mentioned a few i-told-you-so's since.
> > >
> > > If you like staying dry, i wouldn't get it.
> > >
> > > Don W
> > >
> > > '82 CJ8 Scrambler
> > > AMC 360
> > > T/F 727
> > > Dana 300
> > > One-piece model 20 rear
> > > Dana 30 front, upgraded to 6-bolt caliper and Warn hubs, awaiting locker
> > > 2" shackle lift/reversal
> > > 2" lift springs of unknown origin
> > > 33" Mickey's
> > >
> > > And it finally runs!!!!!
> >
> >

Matt Macchiarolo

In article <20030913204827.18382.00000848@mb-m13.aol.com>,
quicktruck@aol.comnospam (Don Wallish) writes:

>the former CEO has joined the ranks of Smittybilt. Hopefully he left Steel
>Horse's crap behind, but i doubt it.

OK, that's prolly it, I've seen a number of Steelhorse products now sold by
Smittybilt...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Matt Macchiarolo

In article <20030913204827.18382.00000848@mb-m13.aol.com>,
quicktruck@aol.comnospam (Don Wallish) writes:

>the former CEO has joined the ranks of Smittybilt. Hopefully he left Steel
>Horse's crap behind, but i doubt it.

OK, that's prolly it, I've seen a number of Steelhorse products now sold by
Smittybilt...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Hay

Well, I went ahead and bought it. As a concept it is great, Big back
window, supposedly complete coverage, but it's just not made right.
- The plastic lip is too wide for the groove holding the tonnue cover,
no kidding took me two hours to 'force" it in
- both the tonnue cover, and especially the bikini top are NOT
tailored right, so whenever it rains, puddles form on them. This is
especially bad on the bikini top, creating a 3-10 inch dip inside the
cabin.

apart from that:
- its cheap
- I seriously cannot fault the fabric, it is thick and tough enough.
The tailoring is the only/major problem I've had with it.


ps. I also had the bestop bikini/tonnue cover combo and while the
quality was superior the design itself was worthless, the back window
left so much open that it was not even a good windbreaker. even less a
rain guard.


Hay9000


"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<vm6io1i0nm7m57@corp.supernews.com>...
> Has anyone bought this product. It is a cab top and tonneau boot that is
> suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
> because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does it
> leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full time
> top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I really
> like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
>
> Marty

Hay

Well, I went ahead and bought it. As a concept it is great, Big back
window, supposedly complete coverage, but it's just not made right.
- The plastic lip is too wide for the groove holding the tonnue cover,
no kidding took me two hours to 'force" it in
- both the tonnue cover, and especially the bikini top are NOT
tailored right, so whenever it rains, puddles form on them. This is
especially bad on the bikini top, creating a 3-10 inch dip inside the
cabin.

apart from that:
- its cheap
- I seriously cannot fault the fabric, it is thick and tough enough.
The tailoring is the only/major problem I've had with it.


ps. I also had the bestop bikini/tonnue cover combo and while the
quality was superior the design itself was worthless, the back window
left so much open that it was not even a good windbreaker. even less a
rain guard.


Hay9000


"Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<vm6io1i0nm7m57@corp.supernews.com>...
> Has anyone bought this product. It is a cab top and tonneau boot that is
> suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
> because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does it
> leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full time
> top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I really
> like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
>
> Marty

Gerald G. McGeorge

The continuing saga of Rock Crusher quality!

"Hay" <hay9000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d10bb74e.0309250947.1f79a497@posting.google.c om...
> Well, I went ahead and bought it. As a concept it is great, Big back
> window, supposedly complete coverage, but it's just not made right.
> - The plastic lip is too wide for the groove holding the tonnue cover,
> no kidding took me two hours to 'force" it in
> - both the tonnue cover, and especially the bikini top are NOT
> tailored right, so whenever it rains, puddles form on them. This is
> especially bad on the bikini top, creating a 3-10 inch dip inside the
> cabin.
>
> apart from that:
> - its cheap
> - I seriously cannot fault the fabric, it is thick and tough enough.
> The tailoring is the only/major problem I've had with it.
>
>
> ps. I also had the bestop bikini/tonnue cover combo and while the
> quality was superior the design itself was worthless, the back window
> left so much open that it was not even a good windbreaker. even less a
> rain guard.
>
>
> Hay9000
>
>
> "Marty" <mmapson57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<vm6io1i0nm7m57@corp.supernews.com>...
> > Has anyone bought this product. It is a cab top and tonneau boot that is
> > suppose to connect into one pretty weather proof unit. I was wondering
> > because it says it is not waterproof. Has anyone bought this and does
it
> > leak really bad when it rains. I would like to purchase one as a full
time
> > top for my TJ but if it leaks bad I will just keep my full top. I
really
> > like the look it gives the Jeep. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Marty