Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
like the GC's.

Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:

> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> KH
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>> >
>> >
>> > These things I have learned:
>> >
>> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
>> >
>> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>> >
>> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third
> foot.
>> >
>> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
>> >
>> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
>> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>> >
>> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
>> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
>> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
>> > next time?)
>> >
>> >
>> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that
> way.
>> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
>> that effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>> >
>> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>


--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

The canary is still chirping, we might be alright...
-Brian

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Dzehb.50274$gv5.43169@fed1read05...
: Here we go again.
: KH
:
: "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
: news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
: > Joshua Nelson wrote:
: >
: > >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.
: >
: >
: > You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
: > Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
: >
: >
:
:

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

The canary is still chirping, we might be alright...
-Brian

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Dzehb.50274$gv5.43169@fed1read05...
: Here we go again.
: KH
:
: "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
: news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
: > Joshua Nelson wrote:
: >
: > >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.
: >
: >
: > You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
: > Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
: >
: >
:
:

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

The canary is still chirping, we might be alright...
-Brian

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Dzehb.50274$gv5.43169@fed1read05...
: Here we go again.
: KH
:
: "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
: news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
: > Joshua Nelson wrote:
: >
: > >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.
: >
: >
: > You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
: > Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
: >
: >
:
:

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ryehb.50273$gv5.39407@fed1read05...
> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.

Oh, like, if you turn it upside down, then it's actually
compressing when it thinks it's extending? :)
__
Steve
..

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ryehb.50273$gv5.39407@fed1read05...
> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.

Oh, like, if you turn it upside down, then it's actually
compressing when it thinks it's extending? :)
__
Steve
..

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ryehb.50273$gv5.39407@fed1read05...
> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.

Oh, like, if you turn it upside down, then it's actually
compressing when it thinks it's extending? :)
__
Steve
..

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

Stolen from Monroes web site:

Q: Can shock absorbers be mounted upside down (rod end down) and still
function properly?
A. Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube construction; in
order to work properly the inner of the two tubes (working chamber) should
stay completely filled with oil. The outer (reserve) tube contains an oil
reserve along with air or a pressurized gas. If the unit is mounted inverted
(rod side down), the air or gas in the outer chamber can enter the inner
working chamber, resulting in poor damping performance. Therefore, twin tube
shock absorbers should not be mounted upside down (or on their side), with
the exception of specially designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or
cellular gas material, designed to keep the gas retained in the outer
reserve tube.

Thats what I read. Now I remember since I found it again. But then again,
what do they know, they only make shocks.
KH




"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:lJghb.528333$Oz4.404744@rwcrnsc54...
>
> The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
> much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
> that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
> in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
> like the GC's.
>
> Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:
>
> > I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be
installed
> > upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> > KH
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> >> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > These things I have learned:
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third
> > foot.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >> >
> >> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is
jarring
> >> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >> >
> >> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then
grind
> >> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> >> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans
up
> >> > next time?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that
> > way.
> >> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not
all
> >> that effective.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >> >
> >> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

Stolen from Monroes web site:

Q: Can shock absorbers be mounted upside down (rod end down) and still
function properly?
A. Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube construction; in
order to work properly the inner of the two tubes (working chamber) should
stay completely filled with oil. The outer (reserve) tube contains an oil
reserve along with air or a pressurized gas. If the unit is mounted inverted
(rod side down), the air or gas in the outer chamber can enter the inner
working chamber, resulting in poor damping performance. Therefore, twin tube
shock absorbers should not be mounted upside down (or on their side), with
the exception of specially designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or
cellular gas material, designed to keep the gas retained in the outer
reserve tube.

Thats what I read. Now I remember since I found it again. But then again,
what do they know, they only make shocks.
KH




"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:lJghb.528333$Oz4.404744@rwcrnsc54...
>
> The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
> much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
> that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
> in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
> like the GC's.
>
> Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:
>
> > I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be
installed
> > upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> > KH
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> >> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > These things I have learned:
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third
> > foot.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >> >
> >> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is
jarring
> >> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >> >
> >> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then
grind
> >> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> >> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans
up
> >> > next time?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that
> > way.
> >> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not
all
> >> that effective.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >> >
> >> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

Stolen from Monroes web site:

Q: Can shock absorbers be mounted upside down (rod end down) and still
function properly?
A. Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube construction; in
order to work properly the inner of the two tubes (working chamber) should
stay completely filled with oil. The outer (reserve) tube contains an oil
reserve along with air or a pressurized gas. If the unit is mounted inverted
(rod side down), the air or gas in the outer chamber can enter the inner
working chamber, resulting in poor damping performance. Therefore, twin tube
shock absorbers should not be mounted upside down (or on their side), with
the exception of specially designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or
cellular gas material, designed to keep the gas retained in the outer
reserve tube.

Thats what I read. Now I remember since I found it again. But then again,
what do they know, they only make shocks.
KH




"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:lJghb.528333$Oz4.404744@rwcrnsc54...
>
> The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
> much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
> that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
> in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
> like the GC's.
>
> Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:
>
> > I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be
installed
> > upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> > KH
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> >> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > These things I have learned:
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third
> > foot.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >> >
> >> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is
jarring
> >> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >> >
> >> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then
grind
> >> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> >> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans
up
> >> > next time?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that
> > way.
> >> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not
all
> >> that effective.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >> >
> >> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>