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Cal Wheeler 10-07-2003 01:49 AM

Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 


These things I have learned:

It is good to have big damn wheels.

It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.

It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.

It is good to have mongo articulation.

It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.

It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
next time?)



http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html



Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.

Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)



Cherokee-LTD 10-07-2003 07:40 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
I think you could have stuffed the right front about 1/64" before taking out
the flare hehehe. Nice pic's!
-Brian

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
:
:
: These things I have learned:
:
: It is good to have big damn wheels.
:
: It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
:
: It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
:
: It is good to have mongo articulation.
:
: It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
: and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
:
: It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
: away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
: the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
: next time?)
:
:
:
: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
:
:
:
: Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
:
: Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
:
:



Cherokee-LTD 10-07-2003 07:40 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
I think you could have stuffed the right front about 1/64" before taking out
the flare hehehe. Nice pic's!
-Brian

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
:
:
: These things I have learned:
:
: It is good to have big damn wheels.
:
: It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
:
: It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
:
: It is good to have mongo articulation.
:
: It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
: and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
:
: It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
: away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
: the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
: next time?)
:
:
:
: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
:
:
:
: Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
:
: Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
:
:



Cherokee-LTD 10-07-2003 07:40 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
I think you could have stuffed the right front about 1/64" before taking out
the flare hehehe. Nice pic's!
-Brian

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
:
:
: These things I have learned:
:
: It is good to have big damn wheels.
:
: It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
:
: It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
:
: It is good to have mongo articulation.
:
: It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
: and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
:
: It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
: away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
: the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
: next time?)
:
:
:
: http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
:
:
:
: Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
:
: Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
:
:



Kevin in San Diego 10-07-2003 11:03 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
LOL I trashed three shocks in a similar way.
KH

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>
> These things I have learned:
>
> It is good to have big damn wheels.
>
> It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>
> It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>
> It is good to have mongo articulation.
>
> It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>
> It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> next time?)
>
>
>
> http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>
>
>
> Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>
> Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>
>




Kevin in San Diego 10-07-2003 11:03 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
LOL I trashed three shocks in a similar way.
KH

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>
> These things I have learned:
>
> It is good to have big damn wheels.
>
> It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>
> It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>
> It is good to have mongo articulation.
>
> It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>
> It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> next time?)
>
>
>
> http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>
>
>
> Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>
> Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>
>




Kevin in San Diego 10-07-2003 11:03 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
LOL I trashed three shocks in a similar way.
KH

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>
> These things I have learned:
>
> It is good to have big damn wheels.
>
> It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>
> It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>
> It is good to have mongo articulation.
>
> It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>
> It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> next time?)
>
>
>
> http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>
>
>
> Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>
> Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>
>




Jeff Strickland 10-07-2003 02:14 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>
> These things I have learned:
>
> It is good to have big damn wheels.
>
> It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>
> It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>
> It is good to have mongo articulation.
>
> It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>
> It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> next time?)
>
>

Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that way.
For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
that effective.



>
> http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>
>
>
> Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>
> Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>
>



Jeff Strickland 10-07-2003 02:14 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>
> These things I have learned:
>
> It is good to have big damn wheels.
>
> It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>
> It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>
> It is good to have mongo articulation.
>
> It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>
> It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> next time?)
>
>

Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that way.
For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
that effective.



>
> http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>
>
>
> Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>
> Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>
>



Jeff Strickland 10-07-2003 02:14 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>
> These things I have learned:
>
> It is good to have big damn wheels.
>
> It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>
> It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>
> It is good to have mongo articulation.
>
> It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>
> It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> next time?)
>
>

Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that way.
For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
that effective.



>
> http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>
>
>
> Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>
> Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>
>



Joshua Nelson 10-07-2003 04:47 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
> I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL


Cal has an inclinometer?!?! Oh man, it is killing me to bite my
tounge on this one... ;-)

Joshua Nelson 10-07-2003 04:47 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
> I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL


Cal has an inclinometer?!?! Oh man, it is killing me to bite my
tounge on this one... ;-)

Joshua Nelson 10-07-2003 04:47 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
> I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL


Cal has an inclinometer?!?! Oh man, it is killing me to bite my
tounge on this one... ;-)

Cal Wheeler 10-08-2003 03:59 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL

>
>
>
> Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.



You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!



Cal Wheeler 10-08-2003 03:59 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL

>
>
>
> Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.



You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!



Cal Wheeler 10-08-2003 03:59 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL

>
>
>
> Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.



You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!



Cal Wheeler 10-08-2003 04:03 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:

> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>>
>>These things I have learned:
>>
>>It is good to have big damn wheels.
>>
>>It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>>
>>It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>>
>>It is good to have mongo articulation.
>>
>>It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
>>and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>>
>>It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
>>away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
>>the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
>>next time?)
>>
>>

>
> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that way.


I'd seen various discussions about which way to orient 'em to access or
protect the adjustment dial.

> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> that effective.


Screwed either way, I guess.

I'll bet somebody somewhere sells $150 shock armor to protect people's
$90 shocks...
>
>
>
>
>>http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>>
>>
>>
>>Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>>
>>Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>>
>>

>
>



Cal Wheeler 10-08-2003 04:03 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:

> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>>
>>These things I have learned:
>>
>>It is good to have big damn wheels.
>>
>>It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>>
>>It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>>
>>It is good to have mongo articulation.
>>
>>It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
>>and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>>
>>It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
>>away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
>>the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
>>next time?)
>>
>>

>
> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that way.


I'd seen various discussions about which way to orient 'em to access or
protect the adjustment dial.

> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> that effective.


Screwed either way, I guess.

I'll bet somebody somewhere sells $150 shock armor to protect people's
$90 shocks...
>
>
>
>
>>http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>>
>>
>>
>>Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>>
>>Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>>
>>

>
>



Cal Wheeler 10-08-2003 04:03 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:

> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>>
>>These things I have learned:
>>
>>It is good to have big damn wheels.
>>
>>It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>>
>>It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third foot.
>>
>>It is good to have mongo articulation.
>>
>>It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
>>and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>>
>>It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
>>away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
>>the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
>>next time?)
>>
>>

>
> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that way.


I'd seen various discussions about which way to orient 'em to access or
protect the adjustment dial.

> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> that effective.


Screwed either way, I guess.

I'll bet somebody somewhere sells $150 shock armor to protect people's
$90 shocks...
>
>
>
>
>>http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>>
>>
>>
>>Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>>
>>Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>>
>>

>
>



Jeff Strickland 10-08-2003 03:12 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 


> > For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> > that effective.

>
> Screwed either way, I guess.
>
> I'll bet somebody somewhere sells $150 shock armor to protect people's
> $90 shocks...



Skid plates for the shocks. Hmmm ...



Jeff Strickland 10-08-2003 03:12 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 


> > For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> > that effective.

>
> Screwed either way, I guess.
>
> I'll bet somebody somewhere sells $150 shock armor to protect people's
> $90 shocks...



Skid plates for the shocks. Hmmm ...



Jeff Strickland 10-08-2003 03:12 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 


> > For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> > that effective.

>
> Screwed either way, I guess.
>
> I'll bet somebody somewhere sells $150 shock armor to protect people's
> $90 shocks...



Skid plates for the shocks. Hmmm ...



Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 10:48 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
KH

"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >
> >
> > These things I have learned:
> >
> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >
> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >
> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

foot.
> >
> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >
> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >
> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> > next time?)
> >
> >

> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

way.
> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> that effective.
>
>
>
> >
> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >
> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >
> >

>




Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 10:48 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
KH

"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >
> >
> > These things I have learned:
> >
> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >
> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >
> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

foot.
> >
> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >
> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >
> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> > next time?)
> >
> >

> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

way.
> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> that effective.
>
>
>
> >
> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >
> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >
> >

>




Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 10:48 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
KH

"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >
> >
> > These things I have learned:
> >
> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >
> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >
> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

foot.
> >
> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >
> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >
> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
> > next time?)
> >
> >

> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

way.
> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
> that effective.
>
>
>
> >
> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >
> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >
> >

>




Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 10:49 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Here we go again.
KH

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL

> >
> >
> >
> > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.

>
>
> You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
> Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
>
>




Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 10:49 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Here we go again.
KH

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL

> >
> >
> >
> > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.

>
>
> You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
> Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
>
>




Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 10:49 AM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Here we go again.
KH

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL

> >
> >
> >
> > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.

>
>
> You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
> Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
>
>




Lon Stowell 10-09-2003 01:16 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
like the GC's.

Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:

> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> KH
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>> >
>> >
>> > These things I have learned:
>> >
>> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
>> >
>> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>> >
>> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

> foot.
>> >
>> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
>> >
>> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
>> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>> >
>> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
>> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
>> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
>> > next time?)
>> >
>> >

>> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

> way.
>> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
>> that effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>> >
>> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>



--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 10-09-2003 01:16 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
like the GC's.

Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:

> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> KH
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>> >
>> >
>> > These things I have learned:
>> >
>> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
>> >
>> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>> >
>> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

> foot.
>> >
>> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
>> >
>> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
>> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>> >
>> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
>> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
>> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
>> > next time?)
>> >
>> >

>> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

> way.
>> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
>> that effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>> >
>> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>



--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 10-09-2003 01:16 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
like the GC's.

Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:

> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> KH
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
>> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
>> >
>> >
>> > These things I have learned:
>> >
>> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
>> >
>> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
>> >
>> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

> foot.
>> >
>> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
>> >
>> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is jarring
>> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
>> >
>> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then grind
>> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
>> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans up
>> > next time?)
>> >
>> >

>> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

> way.
>> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not all
>> that effective.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
>> >
>> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>



--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Cherokee-LTD 10-09-2003 02:07 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
The canary is still chirping, we might be alright...
-Brian

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Dzehb.50274$gv5.43169@fed1read05...
: Here we go again.
: KH
:
: "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
: news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
: > Joshua Nelson wrote:
: >
: > >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.
: >
: >
: > You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
: > Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
: >
: >
:
:



Cherokee-LTD 10-09-2003 02:07 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
The canary is still chirping, we might be alright...
-Brian

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Dzehb.50274$gv5.43169@fed1read05...
: Here we go again.
: KH
:
: "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
: news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
: > Joshua Nelson wrote:
: >
: > >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.
: >
: >
: > You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
: > Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
: >
: >
:
:



Cherokee-LTD 10-09-2003 02:07 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
The canary is still chirping, we might be alright...
-Brian

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Dzehb.50274$gv5.43169@fed1read05...
: Here we go again.
: KH
:
: "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
: news:bm0g4l$gcq$0@pita.alt.net...
: > Joshua Nelson wrote:
: >
: > >>I love the "cline-o-meter" on the dash! LOL
: > >
: > >
: > >
: > > Cal has an incli/*trollbait snipped*.
: >
: >
: > You did say you were going to put up some pix of *your* rig, didn't you?
: > Ask your mom if you can put some pix of it up on a website!
: >
: >
:
:



Stephen Cowell 10-09-2003 08:54 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ryehb.50273$gv5.39407@fed1read05...
> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.


Oh, like, if you turn it upside down, then it's actually
compressing when it thinks it's extending? :)
__
Steve
..



Stephen Cowell 10-09-2003 08:54 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ryehb.50273$gv5.39407@fed1read05...
> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.


Oh, like, if you turn it upside down, then it's actually
compressing when it thinks it's extending? :)
__
Steve
..



Stephen Cowell 10-09-2003 08:54 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Ryehb.50273$gv5.39407@fed1read05...
> I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be installed
> upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.


Oh, like, if you turn it upside down, then it's actually
compressing when it thinks it's extending? :)
__
Steve
..



Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 09:31 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Stolen from Monroes web site:

Q: Can shock absorbers be mounted upside down (rod end down) and still
function properly?
A. Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube construction; in
order to work properly the inner of the two tubes (working chamber) should
stay completely filled with oil. The outer (reserve) tube contains an oil
reserve along with air or a pressurized gas. If the unit is mounted inverted
(rod side down), the air or gas in the outer chamber can enter the inner
working chamber, resulting in poor damping performance. Therefore, twin tube
shock absorbers should not be mounted upside down (or on their side), with
the exception of specially designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or
cellular gas material, designed to keep the gas retained in the outer
reserve tube.

Thats what I read. Now I remember since I found it again. But then again,
what do they know, they only make shocks.
KH




"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:lJghb.528333$Oz4.404744@rwcrnsc54...
>
> The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
> much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
> that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
> in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
> like the GC's.
>
> Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:
>
> > I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be

installed
> > upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> > KH
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> >> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > These things I have learned:
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

> > foot.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >> >
> >> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is

jarring
> >> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >> >
> >> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then

grind
> >> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> >> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans

up
> >> > next time?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

> > way.
> >> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not

all
> >> that effective.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >> >
> >> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>




Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 09:31 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Stolen from Monroes web site:

Q: Can shock absorbers be mounted upside down (rod end down) and still
function properly?
A. Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube construction; in
order to work properly the inner of the two tubes (working chamber) should
stay completely filled with oil. The outer (reserve) tube contains an oil
reserve along with air or a pressurized gas. If the unit is mounted inverted
(rod side down), the air or gas in the outer chamber can enter the inner
working chamber, resulting in poor damping performance. Therefore, twin tube
shock absorbers should not be mounted upside down (or on their side), with
the exception of specially designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or
cellular gas material, designed to keep the gas retained in the outer
reserve tube.

Thats what I read. Now I remember since I found it again. But then again,
what do they know, they only make shocks.
KH




"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:lJghb.528333$Oz4.404744@rwcrnsc54...
>
> The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
> much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
> that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
> in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
> like the GC's.
>
> Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:
>
> > I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be

installed
> > upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> > KH
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> >> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > These things I have learned:
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

> > foot.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >> >
> >> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is

jarring
> >> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >> >
> >> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then

grind
> >> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> >> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans

up
> >> > next time?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

> > way.
> >> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not

all
> >> that effective.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >> >
> >> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>




Kevin in San Diego 10-09-2003 09:31 PM

Re: Rock Crawler or Web Poser?
 
Stolen from Monroes web site:

Q: Can shock absorbers be mounted upside down (rod end down) and still
function properly?
A. Most modern shock absorbers utilize a twin (dual) tube construction; in
order to work properly the inner of the two tubes (working chamber) should
stay completely filled with oil. The outer (reserve) tube contains an oil
reserve along with air or a pressurized gas. If the unit is mounted inverted
(rod side down), the air or gas in the outer chamber can enter the inner
working chamber, resulting in poor damping performance. Therefore, twin tube
shock absorbers should not be mounted upside down (or on their side), with
the exception of specially designed units that incorporate a gas cell, or
cellular gas material, designed to keep the gas retained in the outer
reserve tube.

Thats what I read. Now I remember since I found it again. But then again,
what do they know, they only make shocks.
KH




"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:lJghb.528333$Oz4.404744@rwcrnsc54...
>
> The Edelbrock and other inertial sensitive types pretty
> much just fail to work as designed when upside down. Not
> that the Edelbrock IAS is a particularly good rock crawler
> in the first place...more appropriate for a trailcruiser
> like the GC's.
>
> Approximately 10/9/03 07:48, Kevin in San Diego uttered for posterity:
>
> > I read once that some shocks, especially mono tube ones cant be

installed
> > upside down. They are valved differently for compression vs extension.
> > KH
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:vo60ne9lhcfu89@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >> "Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
> >> news:bltk4s$1f3$0@pita.alt.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > These things I have learned:
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big damn wheels.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have big stinking axles and diffs to swing them.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to install a thumb throttle; either that or grow a third

> > foot.
> >> >
> >> > It is good to have mongo articulation.
> >> >
> >> > It is stupid to go four wheeling with no bump stops. The ride is

jarring
> >> > and the shock absorbers aren't happy about it either.
> >> >
> >> > It would be smart to check the full range of articulation and then

grind
> >> > away corners of U-bolt plates BEFORE 4 wheeling so one does not trash
> >> > the cans of a pair of brand new Rancho shocks. (Or install 'em cans

up
> >> > next time?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Doesn't everybody install the shocks with the cans up? Mine are on that

> > way.
> >> For the record, at least one can is smashed, so this strategy is not

all
> >> that effective.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > http://pages.sbcglobal.net/calwheeler/cw100503.html
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Photos of my first tentative offroad test drive(s), post mods.
> >> >
> >> > Hey Nathan! Rocks can be for posers, too! ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>





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