Rock Climbing
10-01-2006, 02:24 PM
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Re: Rock Climbing
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:05:43 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).
>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.
Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:
"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."
If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.
And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).
>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.
Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:
"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."
If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.
And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
10-01-2006, 02:24 PM
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Re: Rock Climbing
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:05:43 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).
>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.
Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:
"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."
If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.
And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).
>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.
Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:
"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."
If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.
And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
10-01-2006, 02:24 PM
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Re: Rock Climbing
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 12:05:43 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).
>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.
Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:
"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."
If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.
And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, posted by Mike Romain
<romainm@sympatico.ca>:
>DougW wrote:
>>
>> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> > Coasty wrote:
>> >> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
>> > live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that,
>> > Michelin makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and
>> > traction by removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent
>> > Michelins on several vehicles (one Jeep).
>>
>> And can you imagine how it would throw that debris on the highway. :O
>>
>> I'd be interested to see how that design handles lateral stress. Might
>> make a good airless spare but I doubt it's any good for offroading.
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>
>Didn't the Apollo Moon Buggy use tires something like that back in the
>60's and 70's? They had a horrendous time with them throwing debris.
>
>They could make a nice light spare though.
Except that, as I read the press release, it's actually
*heavier* than a regular tire:
"The Tweel prototype, demonstrated on the Audi A4, is within
five percent of the rolling resistance and mass levels of
current pneumatic tires. That translates to within one
percent of the fuel economy of the OE fitment."
If the mass were 5% *lower* it wouldn't have been phrased
that way.
And I wonder how (actually, "if") it can be adjusted for
varying loads...or if that's necessary.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
10-01-2006, 10:12 PM
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Re: Rock Climbing
Good point on keeping balance. While they may work well, those things remind
me of a wicker chair.
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
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> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>
> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH
me of a wicker chair.
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:UJQTg.2001$Ka1.266@news01.roc.ny...
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>
> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH
10-01-2006, 10:12 PM
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Re: Rock Climbing
Good point on keeping balance. While they may work well, those things remind
me of a wicker chair.
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:UJQTg.2001$Ka1.266@news01.roc.ny...
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>
> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH
me of a wicker chair.
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:UJQTg.2001$Ka1.266@news01.roc.ny...
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>
> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH
10-01-2006, 10:12 PM
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Re: Rock Climbing
Good point on keeping balance. While they may work well, those things remind
me of a wicker chair.
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:UJQTg.2001$Ka1.266@news01.roc.ny...
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>
> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH
me of a wicker chair.
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:UJQTg.2001$Ka1.266@news01.roc.ny...
> Coasty wrote:
>> http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...01102005a.html
>>
>>
>>
> LMAO! It'll pick up snow and ice or mud and rocks, depending where you
> live, and throw off the balance of the wheel. Having said that, Michelin
> makes good "normal" tires. I've improved ride, handling and traction by
> removing Goodyear tires and replacing them with equivalent Michelins on
> several vehicles (one Jeep).
>
> --
> FRH
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