rim and tire size/ size lift
02-24-2006, 10:06 AM
#11
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
For the trail and on road snow traction I need, I believe tall skinny
rules. The folks like loggers that work in the bush use tall skinny.
GI's with the old light Jeeps used tall skinny to get their asses out of
a shooting zone.
When I went from a mud tread that measured 10.5" to the same mud tread
that measures 7.5" on my 'light' 'glass CJ7 I got a Radical increase in
traction with no need to compromise clearance or sidewall safety by
airing down.
When we went 1" wider on our AT's in the XJ we were 'really'
disappointed in the loss of traction. It was a noticeable loss.
If you want to go wide for flotation, then go 'wide' but be aware that
they will spin way easier and up here if you spin, you dig holes and
stop....
Here is an article link Billy Ray sent me the other day that goes over
it:
http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/31802/
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> what is the performance differance with wide and narrow tires. which is
> better. i have 10 in wide rims. do u suggest i get narrower ones or can
> i still get good tires on them. also im doing a SoA and was wonder if
> anyone had problesm with haveing 7 inches of lift, not sure if i want
> to add 2 in leaf springs to brong the 5 from the soa to around 7 inches
rules. The folks like loggers that work in the bush use tall skinny.
GI's with the old light Jeeps used tall skinny to get their asses out of
a shooting zone.
When I went from a mud tread that measured 10.5" to the same mud tread
that measures 7.5" on my 'light' 'glass CJ7 I got a Radical increase in
traction with no need to compromise clearance or sidewall safety by
airing down.
When we went 1" wider on our AT's in the XJ we were 'really'
disappointed in the loss of traction. It was a noticeable loss.
If you want to go wide for flotation, then go 'wide' but be aware that
they will spin way easier and up here if you spin, you dig holes and
stop....
Here is an article link Billy Ray sent me the other day that goes over
it:
http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/31802/
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> what is the performance differance with wide and narrow tires. which is
> better. i have 10 in wide rims. do u suggest i get narrower ones or can
> i still get good tires on them. also im doing a SoA and was wonder if
> anyone had problesm with haveing 7 inches of lift, not sure if i want
> to add 2 in leaf springs to brong the 5 from the soa to around 7 inches
02-24-2006, 10:06 AM
#12
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
For the trail and on road snow traction I need, I believe tall skinny
rules. The folks like loggers that work in the bush use tall skinny.
GI's with the old light Jeeps used tall skinny to get their asses out of
a shooting zone.
When I went from a mud tread that measured 10.5" to the same mud tread
that measures 7.5" on my 'light' 'glass CJ7 I got a Radical increase in
traction with no need to compromise clearance or sidewall safety by
airing down.
When we went 1" wider on our AT's in the XJ we were 'really'
disappointed in the loss of traction. It was a noticeable loss.
If you want to go wide for flotation, then go 'wide' but be aware that
they will spin way easier and up here if you spin, you dig holes and
stop....
Here is an article link Billy Ray sent me the other day that goes over
it:
http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/31802/
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> what is the performance differance with wide and narrow tires. which is
> better. i have 10 in wide rims. do u suggest i get narrower ones or can
> i still get good tires on them. also im doing a SoA and was wonder if
> anyone had problesm with haveing 7 inches of lift, not sure if i want
> to add 2 in leaf springs to brong the 5 from the soa to around 7 inches
rules. The folks like loggers that work in the bush use tall skinny.
GI's with the old light Jeeps used tall skinny to get their asses out of
a shooting zone.
When I went from a mud tread that measured 10.5" to the same mud tread
that measures 7.5" on my 'light' 'glass CJ7 I got a Radical increase in
traction with no need to compromise clearance or sidewall safety by
airing down.
When we went 1" wider on our AT's in the XJ we were 'really'
disappointed in the loss of traction. It was a noticeable loss.
If you want to go wide for flotation, then go 'wide' but be aware that
they will spin way easier and up here if you spin, you dig holes and
stop....
Here is an article link Billy Ray sent me the other day that goes over
it:
http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/31802/
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> what is the performance differance with wide and narrow tires. which is
> better. i have 10 in wide rims. do u suggest i get narrower ones or can
> i still get good tires on them. also im doing a SoA and was wonder if
> anyone had problesm with haveing 7 inches of lift, not sure if i want
> to add 2 in leaf springs to brong the 5 from the soa to around 7 inches
02-24-2006, 10:06 AM
#13
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
For the trail and on road snow traction I need, I believe tall skinny
rules. The folks like loggers that work in the bush use tall skinny.
GI's with the old light Jeeps used tall skinny to get their asses out of
a shooting zone.
When I went from a mud tread that measured 10.5" to the same mud tread
that measures 7.5" on my 'light' 'glass CJ7 I got a Radical increase in
traction with no need to compromise clearance or sidewall safety by
airing down.
When we went 1" wider on our AT's in the XJ we were 'really'
disappointed in the loss of traction. It was a noticeable loss.
If you want to go wide for flotation, then go 'wide' but be aware that
they will spin way easier and up here if you spin, you dig holes and
stop....
Here is an article link Billy Ray sent me the other day that goes over
it:
http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/31802/
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> what is the performance differance with wide and narrow tires. which is
> better. i have 10 in wide rims. do u suggest i get narrower ones or can
> i still get good tires on them. also im doing a SoA and was wonder if
> anyone had problesm with haveing 7 inches of lift, not sure if i want
> to add 2 in leaf springs to brong the 5 from the soa to around 7 inches
rules. The folks like loggers that work in the bush use tall skinny.
GI's with the old light Jeeps used tall skinny to get their asses out of
a shooting zone.
When I went from a mud tread that measured 10.5" to the same mud tread
that measures 7.5" on my 'light' 'glass CJ7 I got a Radical increase in
traction with no need to compromise clearance or sidewall safety by
airing down.
When we went 1" wider on our AT's in the XJ we were 'really'
disappointed in the loss of traction. It was a noticeable loss.
If you want to go wide for flotation, then go 'wide' but be aware that
they will spin way easier and up here if you spin, you dig holes and
stop....
Here is an article link Billy Ray sent me the other day that goes over
it:
http://www.jpmagazine.com/techarticles/31802/
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> what is the performance differance with wide and narrow tires. which is
> better. i have 10 in wide rims. do u suggest i get narrower ones or can
> i still get good tires on them. also im doing a SoA and was wonder if
> anyone had problesm with haveing 7 inches of lift, not sure if i want
> to add 2 in leaf springs to brong the 5 from the soa to around 7 inches
02-24-2006, 02:31 PM
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
...lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
...lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
02-24-2006, 02:31 PM
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
...lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
...lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
02-24-2006, 02:31 PM
#16
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
...lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
...lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
02-24-2006, 02:31 PM
#17
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
...lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
...lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
02-24-2006, 03:11 PM
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
The 'footprint' is the issue as well as the PSI between the tire and
ground.
My tall skinny BFG muds were 'far' from cheap eh....
So figure it this way. On a 33x9.5" tire, my footprint is 7.5" wide.
Now figure 'say' a really big 15" wide 33" tire is there with a 15"
tread width for easy numbers.
The 15" tire is going to have about half of the PSI on the ground that
my 7.5" of width have.
This means they will spin really easy. You go nowhere fast when you
spin tires, you dig holes or you stay stopped.
Fat tire on the street in the snow get up on top so you lose steering
control at fairly low speed.
With 10.5's on my CJ7, I lost steering control about 45-50 mph in 4" of
snow on the highway. This is a serious **** off when the transports are
running 55+ mph...
So far with my 33x9.5's that measure 7.5" at the tread, I haven't found
the speed they lose control in the snow. I can run at 60 mph with no
issues so I can keep up with the trucks.
My 33x9.5's just plain don't spin. When I run up sand pit walls, I
leave this very distinctive tread mark all the way up. When the Jeep
with the 12.5-15's goes up, it leaves rooster tail marks until he digs
holes and stops.
Mud running almost isn't any fun any more, I don't get the top of my
Jeep muddy because my tires don't spin it up. If I have to clean all
the underneath, I want to look muddy on top too dammit!
There is a downside to having too much traction. LOL! ;-( I tear
engine mounts to shreds and even shattered the metal plates in the last
one and I blow out locking hubs all the time because I use Jeep ones,
not Warn heavy ones yet. Well, on one side I have a Warn, the other
side is still a 'fuse'.
If you have ever browsed my photo albums, note where I am at taking the
photos of folks trying to make it... The other side or the top eh. ;-)
Just my 0.02 for ya...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
> wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
> ..lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
> to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
> thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
ground.
My tall skinny BFG muds were 'far' from cheap eh....
So figure it this way. On a 33x9.5" tire, my footprint is 7.5" wide.
Now figure 'say' a really big 15" wide 33" tire is there with a 15"
tread width for easy numbers.
The 15" tire is going to have about half of the PSI on the ground that
my 7.5" of width have.
This means they will spin really easy. You go nowhere fast when you
spin tires, you dig holes or you stay stopped.
Fat tire on the street in the snow get up on top so you lose steering
control at fairly low speed.
With 10.5's on my CJ7, I lost steering control about 45-50 mph in 4" of
snow on the highway. This is a serious **** off when the transports are
running 55+ mph...
So far with my 33x9.5's that measure 7.5" at the tread, I haven't found
the speed they lose control in the snow. I can run at 60 mph with no
issues so I can keep up with the trucks.
My 33x9.5's just plain don't spin. When I run up sand pit walls, I
leave this very distinctive tread mark all the way up. When the Jeep
with the 12.5-15's goes up, it leaves rooster tail marks until he digs
holes and stops.
Mud running almost isn't any fun any more, I don't get the top of my
Jeep muddy because my tires don't spin it up. If I have to clean all
the underneath, I want to look muddy on top too dammit!
There is a downside to having too much traction. LOL! ;-( I tear
engine mounts to shreds and even shattered the metal plates in the last
one and I blow out locking hubs all the time because I use Jeep ones,
not Warn heavy ones yet. Well, on one side I have a Warn, the other
side is still a 'fuse'.
If you have ever browsed my photo albums, note where I am at taking the
photos of folks trying to make it... The other side or the top eh. ;-)
Just my 0.02 for ya...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
> wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
> ..lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
> to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
> thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
02-24-2006, 03:11 PM
#19
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Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
The 'footprint' is the issue as well as the PSI between the tire and
ground.
My tall skinny BFG muds were 'far' from cheap eh....
So figure it this way. On a 33x9.5" tire, my footprint is 7.5" wide.
Now figure 'say' a really big 15" wide 33" tire is there with a 15"
tread width for easy numbers.
The 15" tire is going to have about half of the PSI on the ground that
my 7.5" of width have.
This means they will spin really easy. You go nowhere fast when you
spin tires, you dig holes or you stay stopped.
Fat tire on the street in the snow get up on top so you lose steering
control at fairly low speed.
With 10.5's on my CJ7, I lost steering control about 45-50 mph in 4" of
snow on the highway. This is a serious **** off when the transports are
running 55+ mph...
So far with my 33x9.5's that measure 7.5" at the tread, I haven't found
the speed they lose control in the snow. I can run at 60 mph with no
issues so I can keep up with the trucks.
My 33x9.5's just plain don't spin. When I run up sand pit walls, I
leave this very distinctive tread mark all the way up. When the Jeep
with the 12.5-15's goes up, it leaves rooster tail marks until he digs
holes and stops.
Mud running almost isn't any fun any more, I don't get the top of my
Jeep muddy because my tires don't spin it up. If I have to clean all
the underneath, I want to look muddy on top too dammit!
There is a downside to having too much traction. LOL! ;-( I tear
engine mounts to shreds and even shattered the metal plates in the last
one and I blow out locking hubs all the time because I use Jeep ones,
not Warn heavy ones yet. Well, on one side I have a Warn, the other
side is still a 'fuse'.
If you have ever browsed my photo albums, note where I am at taking the
photos of folks trying to make it... The other side or the top eh. ;-)
Just my 0.02 for ya...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
> wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
> ..lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
> to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
> thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
ground.
My tall skinny BFG muds were 'far' from cheap eh....
So figure it this way. On a 33x9.5" tire, my footprint is 7.5" wide.
Now figure 'say' a really big 15" wide 33" tire is there with a 15"
tread width for easy numbers.
The 15" tire is going to have about half of the PSI on the ground that
my 7.5" of width have.
This means they will spin really easy. You go nowhere fast when you
spin tires, you dig holes or you stay stopped.
Fat tire on the street in the snow get up on top so you lose steering
control at fairly low speed.
With 10.5's on my CJ7, I lost steering control about 45-50 mph in 4" of
snow on the highway. This is a serious **** off when the transports are
running 55+ mph...
So far with my 33x9.5's that measure 7.5" at the tread, I haven't found
the speed they lose control in the snow. I can run at 60 mph with no
issues so I can keep up with the trucks.
My 33x9.5's just plain don't spin. When I run up sand pit walls, I
leave this very distinctive tread mark all the way up. When the Jeep
with the 12.5-15's goes up, it leaves rooster tail marks until he digs
holes and stops.
Mud running almost isn't any fun any more, I don't get the top of my
Jeep muddy because my tires don't spin it up. If I have to clean all
the underneath, I want to look muddy on top too dammit!
There is a downside to having too much traction. LOL! ;-( I tear
engine mounts to shreds and even shattered the metal plates in the last
one and I blow out locking hubs all the time because I use Jeep ones,
not Warn heavy ones yet. Well, on one side I have a Warn, the other
side is still a 'fuse'.
If you have ever browsed my photo albums, note where I am at taking the
photos of folks trying to make it... The other side or the top eh. ;-)
Just my 0.02 for ya...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
> wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
> ..lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
> to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
> thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
02-24-2006, 03:11 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: rim and tire size/ size lift
The 'footprint' is the issue as well as the PSI between the tire and
ground.
My tall skinny BFG muds were 'far' from cheap eh....
So figure it this way. On a 33x9.5" tire, my footprint is 7.5" wide.
Now figure 'say' a really big 15" wide 33" tire is there with a 15"
tread width for easy numbers.
The 15" tire is going to have about half of the PSI on the ground that
my 7.5" of width have.
This means they will spin really easy. You go nowhere fast when you
spin tires, you dig holes or you stay stopped.
Fat tire on the street in the snow get up on top so you lose steering
control at fairly low speed.
With 10.5's on my CJ7, I lost steering control about 45-50 mph in 4" of
snow on the highway. This is a serious **** off when the transports are
running 55+ mph...
So far with my 33x9.5's that measure 7.5" at the tread, I haven't found
the speed they lose control in the snow. I can run at 60 mph with no
issues so I can keep up with the trucks.
My 33x9.5's just plain don't spin. When I run up sand pit walls, I
leave this very distinctive tread mark all the way up. When the Jeep
with the 12.5-15's goes up, it leaves rooster tail marks until he digs
holes and stops.
Mud running almost isn't any fun any more, I don't get the top of my
Jeep muddy because my tires don't spin it up. If I have to clean all
the underneath, I want to look muddy on top too dammit!
There is a downside to having too much traction. LOL! ;-( I tear
engine mounts to shreds and even shattered the metal plates in the last
one and I blow out locking hubs all the time because I use Jeep ones,
not Warn heavy ones yet. Well, on one side I have a Warn, the other
side is still a 'fuse'.
If you have ever browsed my photo albums, note where I am at taking the
photos of folks trying to make it... The other side or the top eh. ;-)
Just my 0.02 for ya...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
> wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
> ..lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
> to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
> thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
ground.
My tall skinny BFG muds were 'far' from cheap eh....
So figure it this way. On a 33x9.5" tire, my footprint is 7.5" wide.
Now figure 'say' a really big 15" wide 33" tire is there with a 15"
tread width for easy numbers.
The 15" tire is going to have about half of the PSI on the ground that
my 7.5" of width have.
This means they will spin really easy. You go nowhere fast when you
spin tires, you dig holes or you stay stopped.
Fat tire on the street in the snow get up on top so you lose steering
control at fairly low speed.
With 10.5's on my CJ7, I lost steering control about 45-50 mph in 4" of
snow on the highway. This is a serious **** off when the transports are
running 55+ mph...
So far with my 33x9.5's that measure 7.5" at the tread, I haven't found
the speed they lose control in the snow. I can run at 60 mph with no
issues so I can keep up with the trucks.
My 33x9.5's just plain don't spin. When I run up sand pit walls, I
leave this very distinctive tread mark all the way up. When the Jeep
with the 12.5-15's goes up, it leaves rooster tail marks until he digs
holes and stops.
Mud running almost isn't any fun any more, I don't get the top of my
Jeep muddy because my tires don't spin it up. If I have to clean all
the underneath, I want to look muddy on top too dammit!
There is a downside to having too much traction. LOL! ;-( I tear
engine mounts to shreds and even shattered the metal plates in the last
one and I blow out locking hubs all the time because I use Jeep ones,
not Warn heavy ones yet. Well, on one side I have a Warn, the other
side is still a 'fuse'.
If you have ever browsed my photo albums, note where I am at taking the
photos of folks trying to make it... The other side or the top eh. ;-)
Just my 0.02 for ya...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jon wrote:
>
> i talked to some people and they say that its all about the foot print.
> wider tires are better cuz they have bigger foot print, also that
> ..lol.. the people that say tall n skinny are people that are too cheap
> to upgrade to bigger tires. seems with evrthing in life everone one has
> thier own opion.. just gotta find out what one is the truth
