This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
now! LOL

I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:

My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
indefinitely.

 

Glad to hear.
Could you send a link with some pictures?

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.

"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
news:1189007545.782207.254980@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

 

Glad to hear.
Could you send a link with some pictures?

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.

"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
news:1189007545.782207.254980@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

 

Glad to hear.
Could you send a link with some pictures?

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.

"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
news:1189007545.782207.254980@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

 

Glad to hear.
Could you send a link with some pictures?

Bill Spiliotopoulos,
'96 XJ,
'06 TJ.

"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
news:1189007545.782207.254980@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

 

The only rhing you'll have to watch for, is when
you're parked at a angle, whereas the passenger side is
lower than the drivers side. Make sure you don't let the tailgate
swing freely open. The swing stops on the hinges are not quite
strong enough to stop the gate with the heavier tire.
I did it once with my Stock Rubicon and it swing past
the stops and rammed into the tail light. Luckily they
replaced the damaged hinges and tail light under warrenty.
But they didn't want to.

Tracie wrote:
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

 

The only rhing you'll have to watch for, is when
you're parked at a angle, whereas the passenger side is
lower than the drivers side. Make sure you don't let the tailgate
swing freely open. The swing stops on the hinges are not quite
strong enough to stop the gate with the heavier tire.
I did it once with my Stock Rubicon and it swing past
the stops and rammed into the tail light. Luckily they
replaced the damaged hinges and tail light under warrenty.
But they didn't want to.

Tracie wrote:
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

 

The only rhing you'll have to watch for, is when
you're parked at a angle, whereas the passenger side is
lower than the drivers side. Make sure you don't let the tailgate
swing freely open. The swing stops on the hinges are not quite
strong enough to stop the gate with the heavier tire.
I did it once with my Stock Rubicon and it swing past
the stops and rammed into the tail light. Luckily they
replaced the damaged hinges and tail light under warrenty.
But they didn't want to.

Tracie wrote:
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

 

The only rhing you'll have to watch for, is when
you're parked at a angle, whereas the passenger side is
lower than the drivers side. Make sure you don't let the tailgate
swing freely open. The swing stops on the hinges are not quite
strong enough to stop the gate with the heavier tire.
I did it once with my Stock Rubicon and it swing past
the stops and rammed into the tail light. Luckily they
replaced the damaged hinges and tail light under warrenty.
But they didn't want to.

Tracie wrote:
> This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> now! LOL
>
> I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> indefinitely.
>

 

On Sep 5, 12:32 pm, FrankW <fw...@norpak.ca> wrote:
> The only rhing you'll have to watch for, is when
> you're parked at a angle, whereas the passenger side is
> lower than the drivers side. Make sure you don't let the tailgate
> swing freely open. The swing stops on the hinges are not quite
> strong enough to stop the gate with the heavier tire.
> I did it once with my Stock Rubicon and it swing past
> the stops and rammed into the tail light. Luckily they
> replaced the damaged hinges and tail light under warrenty.
> But they didn't want to.
>
>
>
> Tracie wrote:
> > This is just an update from the previous post that I had going a
> > couple of weeks ago. I got my new BFG Muds installed on 8/31/07 and
> > they look AWESOME! The spare tire did fit under the third brake
> > light, but there is only about 1/8 inch of room to spare. You will
> > definitely not get a bigger tire under there unless you do some
> > modifications. I also had to shave off the rounded part of the rubber
> > tire stop that is mounted under the tail gate because the gate would
> > not shut properly due to the bigger tire hitting it prior to the gate
> > closing properly. Five minutes with a Ginsu knife and all is good
> > now! LOL
>
> > I was concerned about the additional size and weight of the new tire
> > compared to my stock tire, but I spoke to the service dept. from the
> > dealership I purchased the Wrangler at and this is what they told me:
>
> > My stock tires were the Goodyear Wrangler RT/S (215/75/15) and weigh
> > 25 pounds each. The Rubicon's tires are just a hair smaller than my
> > BFG Muds (30.5/9.5/16), and they are mounted on the tail gate without
> > any known problems. I was informed that the tail gates on the newer
> > TJ's have been reinforced to hold the weight of the larger Rubicon
> > tires. I have discovered that the STOCK Rubicon tires are the
> > Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs and they are 30.5/9.5/16 and weigh 49 pounds
> > each. My BFG Muds are 31/10.5/15 and weigh 43 pounds each. So in all
> > reality, the stock Rubicon's tires weigh 6 pounds MORE than my BFG
> > Muds. In the future, I will probably get a rear bumper/oversize tire
> > carrier combo to carry the 31 inch tire. I doubt I will have any
> > problems with the tire mounted like it is because I don't do any off-
> > roading to speak of that would bounce the hell out of the spare tire.
> > I just don't feel comfortable leaving the tire mounted there
> > indefinitely.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Bill --

I will try to get some pics later this evening. I am not very good at
setting up links to my pics, so if I can't I may need your e-mail addy
to send them to you. I will attempt it though.

Frank --

Thanks for that insight. I didn't think about that. I haven't had
that situation happen yet, but I will remember that should I ever be
parked at that angle.