William Oliveri

What's the scoop/consensus on these? Pros/Cons

Thanks,

Bill

Terry Jeffrey

I have an indifferent opinion of them. I have a set of them I've used on my
YJ. Currently I don't have them on; just not sure I really need the extra
droop with the type of wheeling I currently do. If I ever get into serious
rock crawling, them perhaps I'll put them back on. But when I did use them
I had no problems, and they gave me an extra 6-8 inches of droop. Be sure
your driveshaft, shocks, brake lines, etc, can handle this extra droop. In
some Jeep forums, however, I've read where some people have had problems
with them - but only from the SOA crowd. Never have heard of any
malfunction from the SUA rigs (what mine is). The biggest complaint I've
heard from the SOA guys is that they will open up when they aren't supposed
to while climbing steep inclines, of course restricting the climbing
ability. I did some fairly steep inclines in my SUA rig w/ the revolvers
but did not experience this problem.

Cal Wheeler uses them too on his SOA YJ. Maybe he will add his comments.

Terry
92YJ



"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bt8ag8$4bcaj$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> What's the scoop/consensus on these? Pros/Cons
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>

Terry Jeffrey

I have an indifferent opinion of them. I have a set of them I've used on my
YJ. Currently I don't have them on; just not sure I really need the extra
droop with the type of wheeling I currently do. If I ever get into serious
rock crawling, them perhaps I'll put them back on. But when I did use them
I had no problems, and they gave me an extra 6-8 inches of droop. Be sure
your driveshaft, shocks, brake lines, etc, can handle this extra droop. In
some Jeep forums, however, I've read where some people have had problems
with them - but only from the SOA crowd. Never have heard of any
malfunction from the SUA rigs (what mine is). The biggest complaint I've
heard from the SOA guys is that they will open up when they aren't supposed
to while climbing steep inclines, of course restricting the climbing
ability. I did some fairly steep inclines in my SUA rig w/ the revolvers
but did not experience this problem.

Cal Wheeler uses them too on his SOA YJ. Maybe he will add his comments.

Terry
92YJ



"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bt8ag8$4bcaj$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> What's the scoop/consensus on these? Pros/Cons
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>

Terry Jeffrey

I have an indifferent opinion of them. I have a set of them I've used on my
YJ. Currently I don't have them on; just not sure I really need the extra
droop with the type of wheeling I currently do. If I ever get into serious
rock crawling, them perhaps I'll put them back on. But when I did use them
I had no problems, and they gave me an extra 6-8 inches of droop. Be sure
your driveshaft, shocks, brake lines, etc, can handle this extra droop. In
some Jeep forums, however, I've read where some people have had problems
with them - but only from the SOA crowd. Never have heard of any
malfunction from the SUA rigs (what mine is). The biggest complaint I've
heard from the SOA guys is that they will open up when they aren't supposed
to while climbing steep inclines, of course restricting the climbing
ability. I did some fairly steep inclines in my SUA rig w/ the revolvers
but did not experience this problem.

Cal Wheeler uses them too on his SOA YJ. Maybe he will add his comments.

Terry
92YJ



"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bt8ag8$4bcaj$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> What's the scoop/consensus on these? Pros/Cons
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
>

Cal Wheeler

Terry Jeffrey wrote:

> I have an indifferent opinion of them. I have a set of them I've used on my
> YJ. Currently I don't have them on; just not sure I really need the extra
> droop with the type of wheeling I currently do. If I ever get into serious
> rock crawling, them perhaps I'll put them back on. But when I did use them
> I had no problems, and they gave me an extra 6-8 inches of droop. Be sure
> your driveshaft, shocks, brake lines, etc, can handle this extra droop. In
> some Jeep forums, however, I've read where some people have had problems
> with them - but only from the SOA crowd. Never have heard of any
> malfunction from the SUA rigs (what mine is). The biggest complaint I've
> heard from the SOA guys is that they will open up when they aren't supposed
> to while climbing steep inclines, of course restricting the climbing
> ability. I did some fairly steep inclines in my SUA rig w/ the revolvers
> but did not experience this problem.
>
> Cal Wheeler uses them too on his SOA YJ. Maybe he will add his comments.
>
> Terry
> 92YJ

Hey hey! Yep. I've got Teraflex Revolver Shackles. I have yet to go up a
steep enough hill where the extra 6 inches of travel sent me flipping
*** over teakettle. Some of the obstacles at Doran Loop in Calico that I
just wheeled this weekend were extremely gnarly, and the Revolvers did
not affect my ascents or descents negatively. Looking at the pics taken,
I had more articulation than many of the others.

That said, none of the other 19 rigs in the group had 'em, and many of
them made it up the same obstacles just fine. More gracefuly, even, but
I'm chalking that up to better driver skills overall, and my lack of
loooooow gearing.

Another point to consider is what some people say, that the extra
articulation is not "usable" (sorta like "bad versus good cholesterol")
because the full weight that could be on any tire is not there until the
shackle refolds, hence less traction.

I'm no physics expert, but when I am climbing a ladder, or actually
climbing real rocks with my real feet, having my foot a inch or 3 inches
closer to a foot hold, or even having my foot planted, without putting
my full weight on it, still means I'm more stable and am going to have
better footing (i.e. traction) Real Soon.

Hell, the whole motion of walking itself is carefully controlled "not
falling over". I picture the anti-teraflex crowd (the really rabid ones)
locomoting by making sure all of their weight is at all times
distributed and stabilized by sliding or "dragging" both feet, as well
as both knuckles ;-)

Basically, they were the first mods I made to my stock Jeep, and I
probably don't really need them (although they keep my spring hangers
from bending). But I leave them on to give people something to talk
about. ;-)


>
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bt8ag8$4bcaj$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>>What's the scoop/consensus on these? Pros/Cons
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>
>
>

Cal Wheeler

Terry Jeffrey wrote:

> I have an indifferent opinion of them. I have a set of them I've used on my
> YJ. Currently I don't have them on; just not sure I really need the extra
> droop with the type of wheeling I currently do. If I ever get into serious
> rock crawling, them perhaps I'll put them back on. But when I did use them
> I had no problems, and they gave me an extra 6-8 inches of droop. Be sure
> your driveshaft, shocks, brake lines, etc, can handle this extra droop. In
> some Jeep forums, however, I've read where some people have had problems
> with them - but only from the SOA crowd. Never have heard of any
> malfunction from the SUA rigs (what mine is). The biggest complaint I've
> heard from the SOA guys is that they will open up when they aren't supposed
> to while climbing steep inclines, of course restricting the climbing
> ability. I did some fairly steep inclines in my SUA rig w/ the revolvers
> but did not experience this problem.
>
> Cal Wheeler uses them too on his SOA YJ. Maybe he will add his comments.
>
> Terry
> 92YJ

Hey hey! Yep. I've got Teraflex Revolver Shackles. I have yet to go up a
steep enough hill where the extra 6 inches of travel sent me flipping
*** over teakettle. Some of the obstacles at Doran Loop in Calico that I
just wheeled this weekend were extremely gnarly, and the Revolvers did
not affect my ascents or descents negatively. Looking at the pics taken,
I had more articulation than many of the others.

That said, none of the other 19 rigs in the group had 'em, and many of
them made it up the same obstacles just fine. More gracefuly, even, but
I'm chalking that up to better driver skills overall, and my lack of
loooooow gearing.

Another point to consider is what some people say, that the extra
articulation is not "usable" (sorta like "bad versus good cholesterol")
because the full weight that could be on any tire is not there until the
shackle refolds, hence less traction.

I'm no physics expert, but when I am climbing a ladder, or actually
climbing real rocks with my real feet, having my foot a inch or 3 inches
closer to a foot hold, or even having my foot planted, without putting
my full weight on it, still means I'm more stable and am going to have
better footing (i.e. traction) Real Soon.

Hell, the whole motion of walking itself is carefully controlled "not
falling over". I picture the anti-teraflex crowd (the really rabid ones)
locomoting by making sure all of their weight is at all times
distributed and stabilized by sliding or "dragging" both feet, as well
as both knuckles ;-)

Basically, they were the first mods I made to my stock Jeep, and I
probably don't really need them (although they keep my spring hangers
from bending). But I leave them on to give people something to talk
about. ;-)


>
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bt8ag8$4bcaj$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>>What's the scoop/consensus on these? Pros/Cons
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>
>
>

Cal Wheeler

Terry Jeffrey wrote:

> I have an indifferent opinion of them. I have a set of them I've used on my
> YJ. Currently I don't have them on; just not sure I really need the extra
> droop with the type of wheeling I currently do. If I ever get into serious
> rock crawling, them perhaps I'll put them back on. But when I did use them
> I had no problems, and they gave me an extra 6-8 inches of droop. Be sure
> your driveshaft, shocks, brake lines, etc, can handle this extra droop. In
> some Jeep forums, however, I've read where some people have had problems
> with them - but only from the SOA crowd. Never have heard of any
> malfunction from the SUA rigs (what mine is). The biggest complaint I've
> heard from the SOA guys is that they will open up when they aren't supposed
> to while climbing steep inclines, of course restricting the climbing
> ability. I did some fairly steep inclines in my SUA rig w/ the revolvers
> but did not experience this problem.
>
> Cal Wheeler uses them too on his SOA YJ. Maybe he will add his comments.
>
> Terry
> 92YJ

Hey hey! Yep. I've got Teraflex Revolver Shackles. I have yet to go up a
steep enough hill where the extra 6 inches of travel sent me flipping
*** over teakettle. Some of the obstacles at Doran Loop in Calico that I
just wheeled this weekend were extremely gnarly, and the Revolvers did
not affect my ascents or descents negatively. Looking at the pics taken,
I had more articulation than many of the others.

That said, none of the other 19 rigs in the group had 'em, and many of
them made it up the same obstacles just fine. More gracefuly, even, but
I'm chalking that up to better driver skills overall, and my lack of
loooooow gearing.

Another point to consider is what some people say, that the extra
articulation is not "usable" (sorta like "bad versus good cholesterol")
because the full weight that could be on any tire is not there until the
shackle refolds, hence less traction.

I'm no physics expert, but when I am climbing a ladder, or actually
climbing real rocks with my real feet, having my foot a inch or 3 inches
closer to a foot hold, or even having my foot planted, without putting
my full weight on it, still means I'm more stable and am going to have
better footing (i.e. traction) Real Soon.

Hell, the whole motion of walking itself is carefully controlled "not
falling over". I picture the anti-teraflex crowd (the really rabid ones)
locomoting by making sure all of their weight is at all times
distributed and stabilized by sliding or "dragging" both feet, as well
as both knuckles ;-)

Basically, they were the first mods I made to my stock Jeep, and I
probably don't really need them (although they keep my spring hangers
from bending). But I leave them on to give people something to talk
about. ;-)


>
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:bt8ag8$4bcaj$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
>>What's the scoop/consensus on these? Pros/Cons
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>
>
>

Terry Jeffrey

> I'm no physics expert, but when I am climbing a ladder, or actually
> climbing real rocks with my real feet, having my foot a inch or 3 inches
> closer to a foot hold, or even having my foot planted, without putting
> my full weight on it, still means I'm more stable and am going to have
> better footing (i.e. traction) Real Soon.
>
Thanks for your comments, Cal. I sure agree with you here - some footing is
better than no footing at all. Now that I have both my front and rear axles
put together (and now live in a place with some good wheeling), I plsn to
slap those revolvers back on this spring and give them a real test!!

Hey Cal, have you seen the new Teraflex Revolver Z-box product? They
supposedly work in conjunction with the revolver shackles to only allow one
side to open at a time. Sounds like it could be a driveshaft saver.

Terry.

Terry Jeffrey

> I'm no physics expert, but when I am climbing a ladder, or actually
> climbing real rocks with my real feet, having my foot a inch or 3 inches
> closer to a foot hold, or even having my foot planted, without putting
> my full weight on it, still means I'm more stable and am going to have
> better footing (i.e. traction) Real Soon.
>
Thanks for your comments, Cal. I sure agree with you here - some footing is
better than no footing at all. Now that I have both my front and rear axles
put together (and now live in a place with some good wheeling), I plsn to
slap those revolvers back on this spring and give them a real test!!

Hey Cal, have you seen the new Teraflex Revolver Z-box product? They
supposedly work in conjunction with the revolver shackles to only allow one
side to open at a time. Sounds like it could be a driveshaft saver.

Terry.

Terry Jeffrey

> I'm no physics expert, but when I am climbing a ladder, or actually
> climbing real rocks with my real feet, having my foot a inch or 3 inches
> closer to a foot hold, or even having my foot planted, without putting
> my full weight on it, still means I'm more stable and am going to have
> better footing (i.e. traction) Real Soon.
>
Thanks for your comments, Cal. I sure agree with you here - some footing is
better than no footing at all. Now that I have both my front and rear axles
put together (and now live in a place with some good wheeling), I plsn to
slap those revolvers back on this spring and give them a real test!!

Hey Cal, have you seen the new Teraflex Revolver Z-box product? They
supposedly work in conjunction with the revolver shackles to only allow one
side to open at a time. Sounds like it could be a driveshaft saver.

Terry.