Restoring my CJ7
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Googling indicates that a Timbren unit might be a rubber spring assister
shaped a bit like a coil spring which goes between centre of leaf spring and
frame.
Dave Milne, Scotland
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:O5w_g.10577$Lv3.3475@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> I read the "rusty frame" post, thought the idea was so far out of reason
> that I thought it might be a troll. No reason to even start typing.
>
> A CJ body will not fit on a TJ frame without some fairly serious
> modification. You mention a BDS lift, are you planning on using the TJ
> coil suspension or try and back fit leaf suspension? Ditto for the
> brakes, what are you planning to start with? If you have to ask the
> question, you have no clue as to the amount of work involved. And what
> is a Timbren unit?
>
> Repairing the frame is best started with a set of frame plates from
> http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm click on catalog, look for
> 'frame plates' These can be installed with the body on the vehicle but
> are MUCH easier with the body off.
>
> You don't say but the '77 can have either drum or disk brakes on the
> front. '78 and later are all disk front, putting these on is a bolt on
> swap. With these on, getting good brake action is just a matter of
> replacing whatever bad parts you have in there now. Worst case is master
> cylinder, boost, 2 wheel cylinders, front rotors, front calipers. Not
> cheap but not horrible.
>
>
>
> John Schroeder wrote:
> > Hi all. I posted "77 CJ 7 rusty frame" last night and so far I haven't
> > gotten any replies. I have been rethinking this project and have some
more
> > things I would like to get some input on. My CJ is a Golden Eagle model
> > with a 304 and auto transmission, and has the Borg-Warner Quadratrack
> > transfer case. It is full time 4WD. I am thinking about swapping out
the
> > transfer case so that I get low range (I don't have low range now). I
think
> > I will keep the automatic transmission (TH400). If I change transfer
cases,
> > I think I would swap out my hubs for some locking ones, so I could run
in
> > 2WD. If I indeed use a TJ frame and a BDS 2 1/2 lift suspension kit, I
> > would also swap out my brake system, which is really bad right now. My
> > engine and tranny still work well, so I don't want to dump them yet. If
I
> > have to change either of them (or both of them) at a later time, that
won't
> > be too much of a problem. Does this sound like a feasible plan?
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
shaped a bit like a coil spring which goes between centre of leaf spring and
frame.
Dave Milne, Scotland
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:O5w_g.10577$Lv3.3475@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> I read the "rusty frame" post, thought the idea was so far out of reason
> that I thought it might be a troll. No reason to even start typing.
>
> A CJ body will not fit on a TJ frame without some fairly serious
> modification. You mention a BDS lift, are you planning on using the TJ
> coil suspension or try and back fit leaf suspension? Ditto for the
> brakes, what are you planning to start with? If you have to ask the
> question, you have no clue as to the amount of work involved. And what
> is a Timbren unit?
>
> Repairing the frame is best started with a set of frame plates from
> http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm click on catalog, look for
> 'frame plates' These can be installed with the body on the vehicle but
> are MUCH easier with the body off.
>
> You don't say but the '77 can have either drum or disk brakes on the
> front. '78 and later are all disk front, putting these on is a bolt on
> swap. With these on, getting good brake action is just a matter of
> replacing whatever bad parts you have in there now. Worst case is master
> cylinder, boost, 2 wheel cylinders, front rotors, front calipers. Not
> cheap but not horrible.
>
>
>
> John Schroeder wrote:
> > Hi all. I posted "77 CJ 7 rusty frame" last night and so far I haven't
> > gotten any replies. I have been rethinking this project and have some
more
> > things I would like to get some input on. My CJ is a Golden Eagle model
> > with a 304 and auto transmission, and has the Borg-Warner Quadratrack
> > transfer case. It is full time 4WD. I am thinking about swapping out
the
> > transfer case so that I get low range (I don't have low range now). I
think
> > I will keep the automatic transmission (TH400). If I change transfer
cases,
> > I think I would swap out my hubs for some locking ones, so I could run
in
> > 2WD. If I indeed use a TJ frame and a BDS 2 1/2 lift suspension kit, I
> > would also swap out my brake system, which is really bad right now. My
> > engine and tranny still work well, so I don't want to dump them yet. If
I
> > have to change either of them (or both of them) at a later time, that
won't
> > be too much of a problem. Does this sound like a feasible plan?
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Googling indicates that a Timbren unit might be a rubber spring assister
shaped a bit like a coil spring which goes between centre of leaf spring and
frame.
Dave Milne, Scotland
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:O5w_g.10577$Lv3.3475@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> I read the "rusty frame" post, thought the idea was so far out of reason
> that I thought it might be a troll. No reason to even start typing.
>
> A CJ body will not fit on a TJ frame without some fairly serious
> modification. You mention a BDS lift, are you planning on using the TJ
> coil suspension or try and back fit leaf suspension? Ditto for the
> brakes, what are you planning to start with? If you have to ask the
> question, you have no clue as to the amount of work involved. And what
> is a Timbren unit?
>
> Repairing the frame is best started with a set of frame plates from
> http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm click on catalog, look for
> 'frame plates' These can be installed with the body on the vehicle but
> are MUCH easier with the body off.
>
> You don't say but the '77 can have either drum or disk brakes on the
> front. '78 and later are all disk front, putting these on is a bolt on
> swap. With these on, getting good brake action is just a matter of
> replacing whatever bad parts you have in there now. Worst case is master
> cylinder, boost, 2 wheel cylinders, front rotors, front calipers. Not
> cheap but not horrible.
>
>
>
> John Schroeder wrote:
> > Hi all. I posted "77 CJ 7 rusty frame" last night and so far I haven't
> > gotten any replies. I have been rethinking this project and have some
more
> > things I would like to get some input on. My CJ is a Golden Eagle model
> > with a 304 and auto transmission, and has the Borg-Warner Quadratrack
> > transfer case. It is full time 4WD. I am thinking about swapping out
the
> > transfer case so that I get low range (I don't have low range now). I
think
> > I will keep the automatic transmission (TH400). If I change transfer
cases,
> > I think I would swap out my hubs for some locking ones, so I could run
in
> > 2WD. If I indeed use a TJ frame and a BDS 2 1/2 lift suspension kit, I
> > would also swap out my brake system, which is really bad right now. My
> > engine and tranny still work well, so I don't want to dump them yet. If
I
> > have to change either of them (or both of them) at a later time, that
won't
> > be too much of a problem. Does this sound like a feasible plan?
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
shaped a bit like a coil spring which goes between centre of leaf spring and
frame.
Dave Milne, Scotland
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:O5w_g.10577$Lv3.3475@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> I read the "rusty frame" post, thought the idea was so far out of reason
> that I thought it might be a troll. No reason to even start typing.
>
> A CJ body will not fit on a TJ frame without some fairly serious
> modification. You mention a BDS lift, are you planning on using the TJ
> coil suspension or try and back fit leaf suspension? Ditto for the
> brakes, what are you planning to start with? If you have to ask the
> question, you have no clue as to the amount of work involved. And what
> is a Timbren unit?
>
> Repairing the frame is best started with a set of frame plates from
> http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm click on catalog, look for
> 'frame plates' These can be installed with the body on the vehicle but
> are MUCH easier with the body off.
>
> You don't say but the '77 can have either drum or disk brakes on the
> front. '78 and later are all disk front, putting these on is a bolt on
> swap. With these on, getting good brake action is just a matter of
> replacing whatever bad parts you have in there now. Worst case is master
> cylinder, boost, 2 wheel cylinders, front rotors, front calipers. Not
> cheap but not horrible.
>
>
>
> John Schroeder wrote:
> > Hi all. I posted "77 CJ 7 rusty frame" last night and so far I haven't
> > gotten any replies. I have been rethinking this project and have some
more
> > things I would like to get some input on. My CJ is a Golden Eagle model
> > with a 304 and auto transmission, and has the Borg-Warner Quadratrack
> > transfer case. It is full time 4WD. I am thinking about swapping out
the
> > transfer case so that I get low range (I don't have low range now). I
think
> > I will keep the automatic transmission (TH400). If I change transfer
cases,
> > I think I would swap out my hubs for some locking ones, so I could run
in
> > 2WD. If I indeed use a TJ frame and a BDS 2 1/2 lift suspension kit, I
> > would also swap out my brake system, which is really bad right now. My
> > engine and tranny still work well, so I don't want to dump them yet. If
I
> > have to change either of them (or both of them) at a later time, that
won't
> > be too much of a problem. Does this sound like a feasible plan?
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Googling indicates that a Timbren unit might be a rubber spring assister
shaped a bit like a coil spring which goes between centre of leaf spring and
frame.
Dave Milne, Scotland
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:O5w_g.10577$Lv3.3475@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> I read the "rusty frame" post, thought the idea was so far out of reason
> that I thought it might be a troll. No reason to even start typing.
>
> A CJ body will not fit on a TJ frame without some fairly serious
> modification. You mention a BDS lift, are you planning on using the TJ
> coil suspension or try and back fit leaf suspension? Ditto for the
> brakes, what are you planning to start with? If you have to ask the
> question, you have no clue as to the amount of work involved. And what
> is a Timbren unit?
>
> Repairing the frame is best started with a set of frame plates from
> http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm click on catalog, look for
> 'frame plates' These can be installed with the body on the vehicle but
> are MUCH easier with the body off.
>
> You don't say but the '77 can have either drum or disk brakes on the
> front. '78 and later are all disk front, putting these on is a bolt on
> swap. With these on, getting good brake action is just a matter of
> replacing whatever bad parts you have in there now. Worst case is master
> cylinder, boost, 2 wheel cylinders, front rotors, front calipers. Not
> cheap but not horrible.
>
>
>
> John Schroeder wrote:
> > Hi all. I posted "77 CJ 7 rusty frame" last night and so far I haven't
> > gotten any replies. I have been rethinking this project and have some
more
> > things I would like to get some input on. My CJ is a Golden Eagle model
> > with a 304 and auto transmission, and has the Borg-Warner Quadratrack
> > transfer case. It is full time 4WD. I am thinking about swapping out
the
> > transfer case so that I get low range (I don't have low range now). I
think
> > I will keep the automatic transmission (TH400). If I change transfer
cases,
> > I think I would swap out my hubs for some locking ones, so I could run
in
> > 2WD. If I indeed use a TJ frame and a BDS 2 1/2 lift suspension kit, I
> > would also swap out my brake system, which is really bad right now. My
> > engine and tranny still work well, so I don't want to dump them yet. If
I
> > have to change either of them (or both of them) at a later time, that
won't
> > be too much of a problem. Does this sound like a feasible plan?
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
shaped a bit like a coil spring which goes between centre of leaf spring and
frame.
Dave Milne, Scotland
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:O5w_g.10577$Lv3.3475@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
> I read the "rusty frame" post, thought the idea was so far out of reason
> that I thought it might be a troll. No reason to even start typing.
>
> A CJ body will not fit on a TJ frame without some fairly serious
> modification. You mention a BDS lift, are you planning on using the TJ
> coil suspension or try and back fit leaf suspension? Ditto for the
> brakes, what are you planning to start with? If you have to ask the
> question, you have no clue as to the amount of work involved. And what
> is a Timbren unit?
>
> Repairing the frame is best started with a set of frame plates from
> http://www.mountainoffroad.com/more.htm click on catalog, look for
> 'frame plates' These can be installed with the body on the vehicle but
> are MUCH easier with the body off.
>
> You don't say but the '77 can have either drum or disk brakes on the
> front. '78 and later are all disk front, putting these on is a bolt on
> swap. With these on, getting good brake action is just a matter of
> replacing whatever bad parts you have in there now. Worst case is master
> cylinder, boost, 2 wheel cylinders, front rotors, front calipers. Not
> cheap but not horrible.
>
>
>
> John Schroeder wrote:
> > Hi all. I posted "77 CJ 7 rusty frame" last night and so far I haven't
> > gotten any replies. I have been rethinking this project and have some
more
> > things I would like to get some input on. My CJ is a Golden Eagle model
> > with a 304 and auto transmission, and has the Borg-Warner Quadratrack
> > transfer case. It is full time 4WD. I am thinking about swapping out
the
> > transfer case so that I get low range (I don't have low range now). I
think
> > I will keep the automatic transmission (TH400). If I change transfer
cases,
> > I think I would swap out my hubs for some locking ones, so I could run
in
> > 2WD. If I indeed use a TJ frame and a BDS 2 1/2 lift suspension kit, I
> > would also swap out my brake system, which is really bad right now. My
> > engine and tranny still work well, so I don't want to dump them yet. If
I
> > have to change either of them (or both of them) at a later time, that
won't
> > be too much of a problem. Does this sound like a feasible plan?
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
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