Replacing spark plugs
04-05-2007, 10:45 PM
#31
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Re: Replacing spark plugs
Mike wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I
>> haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch
>> Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower.
> Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad
> spark plugs they have always been Bosh.
Autolite is what I use. Tried Campion but they look
sorta cheap side-by-side with the Autolites.
Either way, changing plugs every couple of oil changes
lets me keep an eye on the engines internals.
--
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> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I
>> haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch
>> Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower.
> Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad
> spark plugs they have always been Bosh.
Autolite is what I use. Tried Campion but they look
sorta cheap side-by-side with the Autolites.
Either way, changing plugs every couple of oil changes
lets me keep an eye on the engines internals.
--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!
04-05-2007, 11:06 PM
#32
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Re: Replacing spark plugs
Jeeps seem to prefer low tech copper plugs for some reason,
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used
them but maybe I was just lucky.
"Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
>> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
>> for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every
> time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs
> they have always been Bosh.
>
>
>>
>> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>>> mechanic
>>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>>> he must
>>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>>> platinum
>>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>>> and
>>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>>> to keep
>>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>>> inclined
>>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>>> getting
>>> scammed?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> -Tin
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used
them but maybe I was just lucky.
"Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:WiiRh.6163$B25.5497@news01.roc.ny...
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
>> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
>> for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every
> time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs
> they have always been Bosh.
>
>
>>
>> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>>> mechanic
>>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>>> he must
>>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>>> platinum
>>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>>> and
>>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>>> to keep
>>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>>> inclined
>>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>>> getting
>>> scammed?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> -Tin
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
04-05-2007, 11:06 PM
#33
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Re: Replacing spark plugs
Jeeps seem to prefer low tech copper plugs for some reason,
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used
them but maybe I was just lucky.
"Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:WiiRh.6163$B25.5497@news01.roc.ny...
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
>> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
>> for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every
> time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs
> they have always been Bosh.
>
>
>>
>> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>>> mechanic
>>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>>> he must
>>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>>> platinum
>>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>>> and
>>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>>> to keep
>>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>>> inclined
>>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>>> getting
>>> scammed?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> -Tin
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used
them but maybe I was just lucky.
"Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:WiiRh.6163$B25.5497@news01.roc.ny...
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
>> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
>> for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every
> time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs
> they have always been Bosh.
>
>
>>
>> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>>> mechanic
>>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>>> he must
>>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>>> platinum
>>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>>> and
>>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>>> to keep
>>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>>> inclined
>>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>>> getting
>>> scammed?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> -Tin
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
04-05-2007, 11:06 PM
#34
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Re: Replacing spark plugs
Jeeps seem to prefer low tech copper plugs for some reason,
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used
them but maybe I was just lucky.
"Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:WiiRh.6163$B25.5497@news01.roc.ny...
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
>> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
>> for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every
> time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs
> they have always been Bosh.
>
>
>>
>> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>>> mechanic
>>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>>> he must
>>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>>> platinum
>>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>>> and
>>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>>> to keep
>>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>>> inclined
>>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>>> getting
>>> scammed?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> -Tin
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I've not had a problem with Bosch Platinum plugs in the 25+ years I've used
them but maybe I was just lucky.
"Mike" <mik@localnet.com> wrote in message
news:WiiRh.6163$B25.5497@news01.roc.ny...
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
>> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
>> for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every
> time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs
> they have always been Bosh.
>
>
>>
>> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>>> mechanic
>>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>>> he must
>>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>>> platinum
>>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>>> and
>>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>>> to keep
>>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>>> inclined
>>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>>> getting
>>> scammed?
>>>
>>> thanks.
>>>
>>> -Tin
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
04-06-2007, 07:12 AM
#35
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Re: Replacing spark plugs
My '00 Sport came with and calls for Champion standard copper-core
plugs. I can't imagine a model year older vehicle requiring the
platinum plugs. Agree with whats already been posted; it doesn't
matter what the guy found, it's what the proper plug is that counts.
Check theunderhood decal or, if you have the owners manual, I'll bet
you'll find the plug type listed in there.
Sounds to me like this guy just wants to gouge you on a set of plugs
you don't need.
mike
00XJ
04-06-2007, 07:12 AM
#36
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Posts: n/a
Re: Replacing spark plugs
My '00 Sport came with and calls for Champion standard copper-core
plugs. I can't imagine a model year older vehicle requiring the
platinum plugs. Agree with whats already been posted; it doesn't
matter what the guy found, it's what the proper plug is that counts.
Check theunderhood decal or, if you have the owners manual, I'll bet
you'll find the plug type listed in there.
Sounds to me like this guy just wants to gouge you on a set of plugs
you don't need.
mike
00XJ
04-06-2007, 07:12 AM
#37
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Posts: n/a
Re: Replacing spark plugs
My '00 Sport came with and calls for Champion standard copper-core
plugs. I can't imagine a model year older vehicle requiring the
platinum plugs. Agree with whats already been posted; it doesn't
matter what the guy found, it's what the proper plug is that counts.
Check theunderhood decal or, if you have the owners manual, I'll bet
you'll find the plug type listed in there.
Sounds to me like this guy just wants to gouge you on a set of plugs
you don't need.
mike
00XJ
04-06-2007, 10:22 AM
#38
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Re: Replacing spark plugs
Mike wrote:
> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only
> difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the
> plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer.
> Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to
> between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance.
>
>
>
Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch
platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more
expensive must be better eh.
I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy
expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only
> difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the
> plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer.
> Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to
> between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance.
>
>
>
Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch
platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more
expensive must be better eh.
I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy
expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
04-06-2007, 10:22 AM
#39
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Re: Replacing spark plugs
Mike wrote:
> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only
> difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the
> plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer.
> Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to
> between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance.
>
>
>
Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch
platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more
expensive must be better eh.
I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy
expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only
> difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the
> plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer.
> Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to
> between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance.
>
>
>
Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch
platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more
expensive must be better eh.
I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy
expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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04-06-2007, 10:22 AM
#40
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Re: Replacing spark plugs
Mike wrote:
> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only
> difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the
> plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer.
> Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to
> between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance.
>
>
>
Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch
platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more
expensive must be better eh.
I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy
expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only
> difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the
> plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer.
> Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to
> between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance.
>
>
>
Got news for ya. Lots of Jeep I6 engines will not run for ---- on Bosch
platinum plugs. Too many folks get suckered by the hype and figure more
expensive must be better eh.
I have easily fixed many bad idle issues by simply tossing the fancy
expensive plugs in the trash while replacing them with cheap Champions.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)