Mike

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
> well knows.
>
> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
> for less than $2.50 each.
>

Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every time
I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs they
have always been Bosh.


>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>> mechanic
>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>> he must
>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>> platinum
>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>> and
>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>> to keep
>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>> inclined
>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>> getting
>> scammed?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> -Tin
>>
>
>

Mike

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
> well knows.
>
> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
> for less than $2.50 each.
>

Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every time
I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs they
have always been Bosh.


>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>> mechanic
>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>> he must
>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>> platinum
>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>> and
>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>> to keep
>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>> inclined
>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>> getting
>> scammed?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> -Tin
>>
>
>

Mike

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your 'mechanic'
> well knows.
>
> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I haven't in
> 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch Platinums RETAIL
> for less than $2.50 each.
>

Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower. Every time
I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad spark plugs they
have always been Bosh.


>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>> mechanic
>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>> he must
>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>> platinum
>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>> and
>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>> to keep
>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>> inclined
>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>> getting
>> scammed?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> -Tin
>>
>
>

Mike

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>> mechanic
>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>> he must
>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>> platinum
>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>> and
>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>> to keep
>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>> inclined
>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>> getting
>> scammed?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> -Tin
>>
>
>
> It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it
> only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed
> for that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I
> can't imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous
> owner put them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed
> them for you for any number of reasons.
>
> What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs,
> and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----.
>
> I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed
> there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way.
> Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time.
> I went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came
> back with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive
> on the main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I
> became serious problem to the general population also using the main drag.
> I got back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had
> to take the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and
> reported, "here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for
> some Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular
> snot. I took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts
> store, but all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs.
>
> The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which
> case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs
> though, and save several dollars.
>

Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only
difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the
plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer.
Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to
between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance.

Mike

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:FPgRh.5944$bM1.204@trnddc03...
>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175811236.341976.127850@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have my '99GC 4.0L 6cyl in the shop for a 90K maintenance. The
>> mechanic
>> just called me and says that he found platinum plugs in there and so
>> he must
>> replace them with platinum plugs. He insists that he cannot replace
>> platinum
>> plugs with regular plugs (which are included in the maintenace charge)
>> and
>> wants to charge me $12 extra per plug. Is this true? I do not intend
>> to keep
>> the car long enough to justify the benefit of platinum plugs, so I'm
>> inclined
>> to go with regular plugs. Is there any downside to this or am I just
>> getting
>> scammed?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> -Tin
>>
>
>
> It may or may not be a load of crap. It doesn't matter what he found, it
> only matters what the design calls for. I don't know what they designed
> for that motor, but my 258 (4.2L, sotrta) just takes standard plugs. I
> can't imagine your 4.0L requires platinum plugs, I suspect a previous
> owner put them in, or if you are the previous onwer then a shop installed
> them for you for any number of reasons.
>
> What I can say with certainty is that if you need high performance plugs,
> and you get standard plugs, the motor won't run worth a ----.
>
> I once owned a brand spanking new GM car with a High Output (quotes needed
> there) 2.8L V6 that -- I swear to God -- could not get out of its own way.
> Well, by and by I decided to replace the spark plugs because it was time.
> I went to the corner store and they looked up in the catalog, and came
> back with the "right" plugs. I installed them, and went for a test drive
> on the main drag in my town. Not only couldn't I get out of my own way, I
> became serious problem to the general population also using the main drag.
> I got back to my driveway, and checked EVERYTHING. Yes, everything. I had
> to take the car to the local tune up shop, and the guy pulled a plug and
> reported, "here's your trouble." It turns out the plug requirement was for
> some Hot-Snot Copper Core something or other, but all I had was regular
> snot. I took the regular snot and the mechanic's bill to the auto parts
> store, but all I got back was the cost for the crappy plugs.
>
> The moral of the story is, you might need hot-snot spark plugs, in which
> case you should get them. I think you can use the regular snot plugs
> though, and save several dollars.
>

Are you sure you didn't get a set of Bosh plugs the first time ? The only
difference between regular plugs and platnium plugs, ( besides the
plantinums costing 4-6 times more) is the plantinum plugs last longer.
Regular plugs will last about 30,000 miles. The plantinums will go to
between 60,000 and 80,000 miles. There is no difference in performance.

Mike

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular
>> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :)
>>
>> thx.
>>
>> -Tin
>
>
> There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well.
>

The platinum plugs will last longer but there will be no difference in
the way the engine runs no matter which plug is used.

Mike

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular
>> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :)
>>
>> thx.
>>
>> -Tin
>
>
> There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well.
>

The platinum plugs will last longer but there will be no difference in
the way the engine runs no matter which plug is used.

Mike

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "tinman" <tintinrao@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1175812171.360267.184210@l77g2000hsb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Thanks, Doug. I'm just going to insist he replace them with regular
>> plugs and I'll take the *chance* of the engine blowing up :)
>>
>> thx.
>>
>> -Tin
>
>
> There's no danger of the motor blowing up. It just won't run well.
>

The platinum plugs will last longer but there will be no difference in
the way the engine runs no matter which plug is used.

DougW

Mike wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I
>> haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch
>> Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower.
> Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad
> spark plugs they have always been Bosh.

Autolite is what I use. Tried Campion but they look
sorta cheap side-by-side with the Autolites.
Either way, changing plugs every couple of oil changes
lets me keep an eye on the engines internals.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

DougW

Mike wrote:
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:80f04$461598e4$4831bf01$755@FUSE.NET...
>> That engine came from the factory with copper Champions as your
>> 'mechanic' well knows.
>>
>> If you have had no drivability problems with the Platinums (I
>> haven't in 3 Jeeps) you can continue with them but be advised Bosch
>> Platinums RETAIL for less than $2.50 each.
>>
>
> Bosh spark plugs are junk. I wouldn't put them in a lawn mower.
> Every time I have seen a car with driveability problems due to bad
> spark plugs they have always been Bosh.

Autolite is what I use. Tried Campion but they look
sorta cheap side-by-side with the Autolites.
Either way, changing plugs every couple of oil changes
lets me keep an eye on the engines internals.

--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!