Replaced my TJ with same... back on the NG
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Re: Replaced my TJ with same... back on the NG
welcome back and the motor is different now 2.4 instead of 2.5 :))
"Neil Baldwin" <baldwin@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
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> Greetings all,
>
> I have been away from this newsgroup for a couple years as other interests
> (motorcycling) took me in other directions. I recently replaced my 97 TJ
SE
> (an early one... came off the production line Mar'96) with exactly the
same
> model (my friends say I am a glutton for punishment): a 05 TJ SE... like
> before, with half doors, year-round soft top, but a great new colour (I
used
> to have white): electric lime green. Some people love the colour and
others
> ask me, with derision in their voice, if I paid extra for that.
>
> Yes the 4-cyl SE is a bit of a pig on the highway but, personally, I think
> Wranglers of all types get unsafe at high speeds anyhow and other than
> anaemic highway acceleration, I was totally happy with my 97 SE... it got
> through the Jeep Jamboree just fine. I didn't realize it, but it looks
like
> a whole different engine in there than what was in the 97... looks like a
> lot more "empty space" in the engine compartment. Having the 6th gear is
> really great for highway cruising. It seemed to go through a tank of gas a
> lot slower on a recent trip up to the Bruce Peninsula but I am wondering
if
> perhaps it has a larger tank than the 97 (?).
>
> Somehow, the stock stereo in the 05 sounds even crappier than the stock
> stereo in the 97... how do they manage to do that? It came with the centre
> console (without subwoofer). Is there anyway to add any "ooomph" to that
> thing? I'm not looking for high quality, near perfect sound because,
> frankly, in a soft top it's a waste 'cuz you can't hear much anyhow.
>
> Didn't ask for them, but it came outfitted with cloth seats and alloy
wheels
> which is nice. Except that now my rear wheel bike rack doesn't fit because
> the centre hole isn't big enough... I think I will have to get a used
steel
> rim and tire. My other complaint is that the whole rear seat mechanism is
so
> damn complicated and takes up more space than in the 97.
>
> But, overall, I'm enjoying it a lot... more comfortable, more reliable and
> nice to be able to see out of the plastic windows again (for a few years,
> anyhow). Also, looking forward to being back on the newsgroup. I am
pleased
> to see that some of the same names are still around and that people are
> still bowing in praise (justifiably) to Mike Romain ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Neil Baldwin
> Burlington, ON, Canada
>
>
"Neil Baldwin" <baldwin@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
news:3gqvriFaqkoiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been away from this newsgroup for a couple years as other interests
> (motorcycling) took me in other directions. I recently replaced my 97 TJ
SE
> (an early one... came off the production line Mar'96) with exactly the
same
> model (my friends say I am a glutton for punishment): a 05 TJ SE... like
> before, with half doors, year-round soft top, but a great new colour (I
used
> to have white): electric lime green. Some people love the colour and
others
> ask me, with derision in their voice, if I paid extra for that.
>
> Yes the 4-cyl SE is a bit of a pig on the highway but, personally, I think
> Wranglers of all types get unsafe at high speeds anyhow and other than
> anaemic highway acceleration, I was totally happy with my 97 SE... it got
> through the Jeep Jamboree just fine. I didn't realize it, but it looks
like
> a whole different engine in there than what was in the 97... looks like a
> lot more "empty space" in the engine compartment. Having the 6th gear is
> really great for highway cruising. It seemed to go through a tank of gas a
> lot slower on a recent trip up to the Bruce Peninsula but I am wondering
if
> perhaps it has a larger tank than the 97 (?).
>
> Somehow, the stock stereo in the 05 sounds even crappier than the stock
> stereo in the 97... how do they manage to do that? It came with the centre
> console (without subwoofer). Is there anyway to add any "ooomph" to that
> thing? I'm not looking for high quality, near perfect sound because,
> frankly, in a soft top it's a waste 'cuz you can't hear much anyhow.
>
> Didn't ask for them, but it came outfitted with cloth seats and alloy
wheels
> which is nice. Except that now my rear wheel bike rack doesn't fit because
> the centre hole isn't big enough... I think I will have to get a used
steel
> rim and tire. My other complaint is that the whole rear seat mechanism is
so
> damn complicated and takes up more space than in the 97.
>
> But, overall, I'm enjoying it a lot... more comfortable, more reliable and
> nice to be able to see out of the plastic windows again (for a few years,
> anyhow). Also, looking forward to being back on the newsgroup. I am
pleased
> to see that some of the same names are still around and that people are
> still bowing in praise (justifiably) to Mike Romain ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Neil Baldwin
> Burlington, ON, Canada
>
>
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Re: Replaced my TJ with same... back on the NG
welcome back and the motor is different now 2.4 instead of 2.5 :))
"Neil Baldwin" <baldwin@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
news:3gqvriFaqkoiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been away from this newsgroup for a couple years as other interests
> (motorcycling) took me in other directions. I recently replaced my 97 TJ
SE
> (an early one... came off the production line Mar'96) with exactly the
same
> model (my friends say I am a glutton for punishment): a 05 TJ SE... like
> before, with half doors, year-round soft top, but a great new colour (I
used
> to have white): electric lime green. Some people love the colour and
others
> ask me, with derision in their voice, if I paid extra for that.
>
> Yes the 4-cyl SE is a bit of a pig on the highway but, personally, I think
> Wranglers of all types get unsafe at high speeds anyhow and other than
> anaemic highway acceleration, I was totally happy with my 97 SE... it got
> through the Jeep Jamboree just fine. I didn't realize it, but it looks
like
> a whole different engine in there than what was in the 97... looks like a
> lot more "empty space" in the engine compartment. Having the 6th gear is
> really great for highway cruising. It seemed to go through a tank of gas a
> lot slower on a recent trip up to the Bruce Peninsula but I am wondering
if
> perhaps it has a larger tank than the 97 (?).
>
> Somehow, the stock stereo in the 05 sounds even crappier than the stock
> stereo in the 97... how do they manage to do that? It came with the centre
> console (without subwoofer). Is there anyway to add any "ooomph" to that
> thing? I'm not looking for high quality, near perfect sound because,
> frankly, in a soft top it's a waste 'cuz you can't hear much anyhow.
>
> Didn't ask for them, but it came outfitted with cloth seats and alloy
wheels
> which is nice. Except that now my rear wheel bike rack doesn't fit because
> the centre hole isn't big enough... I think I will have to get a used
steel
> rim and tire. My other complaint is that the whole rear seat mechanism is
so
> damn complicated and takes up more space than in the 97.
>
> But, overall, I'm enjoying it a lot... more comfortable, more reliable and
> nice to be able to see out of the plastic windows again (for a few years,
> anyhow). Also, looking forward to being back on the newsgroup. I am
pleased
> to see that some of the same names are still around and that people are
> still bowing in praise (justifiably) to Mike Romain ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Neil Baldwin
> Burlington, ON, Canada
>
>
"Neil Baldwin" <baldwin@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
news:3gqvriFaqkoiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been away from this newsgroup for a couple years as other interests
> (motorcycling) took me in other directions. I recently replaced my 97 TJ
SE
> (an early one... came off the production line Mar'96) with exactly the
same
> model (my friends say I am a glutton for punishment): a 05 TJ SE... like
> before, with half doors, year-round soft top, but a great new colour (I
used
> to have white): electric lime green. Some people love the colour and
others
> ask me, with derision in their voice, if I paid extra for that.
>
> Yes the 4-cyl SE is a bit of a pig on the highway but, personally, I think
> Wranglers of all types get unsafe at high speeds anyhow and other than
> anaemic highway acceleration, I was totally happy with my 97 SE... it got
> through the Jeep Jamboree just fine. I didn't realize it, but it looks
like
> a whole different engine in there than what was in the 97... looks like a
> lot more "empty space" in the engine compartment. Having the 6th gear is
> really great for highway cruising. It seemed to go through a tank of gas a
> lot slower on a recent trip up to the Bruce Peninsula but I am wondering
if
> perhaps it has a larger tank than the 97 (?).
>
> Somehow, the stock stereo in the 05 sounds even crappier than the stock
> stereo in the 97... how do they manage to do that? It came with the centre
> console (without subwoofer). Is there anyway to add any "ooomph" to that
> thing? I'm not looking for high quality, near perfect sound because,
> frankly, in a soft top it's a waste 'cuz you can't hear much anyhow.
>
> Didn't ask for them, but it came outfitted with cloth seats and alloy
wheels
> which is nice. Except that now my rear wheel bike rack doesn't fit because
> the centre hole isn't big enough... I think I will have to get a used
steel
> rim and tire. My other complaint is that the whole rear seat mechanism is
so
> damn complicated and takes up more space than in the 97.
>
> But, overall, I'm enjoying it a lot... more comfortable, more reliable and
> nice to be able to see out of the plastic windows again (for a few years,
> anyhow). Also, looking forward to being back on the newsgroup. I am
pleased
> to see that some of the same names are still around and that people are
> still bowing in praise (justifiably) to Mike Romain ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Neil Baldwin
> Burlington, ON, Canada
>
>
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Re: Replaced my TJ with same... back on the NG
welcome back and the motor is different now 2.4 instead of 2.5 :))
"Neil Baldwin" <baldwin@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
news:3gqvriFaqkoiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been away from this newsgroup for a couple years as other interests
> (motorcycling) took me in other directions. I recently replaced my 97 TJ
SE
> (an early one... came off the production line Mar'96) with exactly the
same
> model (my friends say I am a glutton for punishment): a 05 TJ SE... like
> before, with half doors, year-round soft top, but a great new colour (I
used
> to have white): electric lime green. Some people love the colour and
others
> ask me, with derision in their voice, if I paid extra for that.
>
> Yes the 4-cyl SE is a bit of a pig on the highway but, personally, I think
> Wranglers of all types get unsafe at high speeds anyhow and other than
> anaemic highway acceleration, I was totally happy with my 97 SE... it got
> through the Jeep Jamboree just fine. I didn't realize it, but it looks
like
> a whole different engine in there than what was in the 97... looks like a
> lot more "empty space" in the engine compartment. Having the 6th gear is
> really great for highway cruising. It seemed to go through a tank of gas a
> lot slower on a recent trip up to the Bruce Peninsula but I am wondering
if
> perhaps it has a larger tank than the 97 (?).
>
> Somehow, the stock stereo in the 05 sounds even crappier than the stock
> stereo in the 97... how do they manage to do that? It came with the centre
> console (without subwoofer). Is there anyway to add any "ooomph" to that
> thing? I'm not looking for high quality, near perfect sound because,
> frankly, in a soft top it's a waste 'cuz you can't hear much anyhow.
>
> Didn't ask for them, but it came outfitted with cloth seats and alloy
wheels
> which is nice. Except that now my rear wheel bike rack doesn't fit because
> the centre hole isn't big enough... I think I will have to get a used
steel
> rim and tire. My other complaint is that the whole rear seat mechanism is
so
> damn complicated and takes up more space than in the 97.
>
> But, overall, I'm enjoying it a lot... more comfortable, more reliable and
> nice to be able to see out of the plastic windows again (for a few years,
> anyhow). Also, looking forward to being back on the newsgroup. I am
pleased
> to see that some of the same names are still around and that people are
> still bowing in praise (justifiably) to Mike Romain ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Neil Baldwin
> Burlington, ON, Canada
>
>
"Neil Baldwin" <baldwin@ca.inter.net> wrote in message
news:3gqvriFaqkoiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Greetings all,
>
> I have been away from this newsgroup for a couple years as other interests
> (motorcycling) took me in other directions. I recently replaced my 97 TJ
SE
> (an early one... came off the production line Mar'96) with exactly the
same
> model (my friends say I am a glutton for punishment): a 05 TJ SE... like
> before, with half doors, year-round soft top, but a great new colour (I
used
> to have white): electric lime green. Some people love the colour and
others
> ask me, with derision in their voice, if I paid extra for that.
>
> Yes the 4-cyl SE is a bit of a pig on the highway but, personally, I think
> Wranglers of all types get unsafe at high speeds anyhow and other than
> anaemic highway acceleration, I was totally happy with my 97 SE... it got
> through the Jeep Jamboree just fine. I didn't realize it, but it looks
like
> a whole different engine in there than what was in the 97... looks like a
> lot more "empty space" in the engine compartment. Having the 6th gear is
> really great for highway cruising. It seemed to go through a tank of gas a
> lot slower on a recent trip up to the Bruce Peninsula but I am wondering
if
> perhaps it has a larger tank than the 97 (?).
>
> Somehow, the stock stereo in the 05 sounds even crappier than the stock
> stereo in the 97... how do they manage to do that? It came with the centre
> console (without subwoofer). Is there anyway to add any "ooomph" to that
> thing? I'm not looking for high quality, near perfect sound because,
> frankly, in a soft top it's a waste 'cuz you can't hear much anyhow.
>
> Didn't ask for them, but it came outfitted with cloth seats and alloy
wheels
> which is nice. Except that now my rear wheel bike rack doesn't fit because
> the centre hole isn't big enough... I think I will have to get a used
steel
> rim and tire. My other complaint is that the whole rear seat mechanism is
so
> damn complicated and takes up more space than in the 97.
>
> But, overall, I'm enjoying it a lot... more comfortable, more reliable and
> nice to be able to see out of the plastic windows again (for a few years,
> anyhow). Also, looking forward to being back on the newsgroup. I am
pleased
> to see that some of the same names are still around and that people are
> still bowing in praise (justifiably) to Mike Romain ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Neil Baldwin
> Burlington, ON, Canada
>
>
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Re: Replaced my TJ with same... back on the NG
Welcome back Neil. Maybe we will catch you on a trail some day. That
funky green should be easy to spot. ;-)
I do like the idea of a cap with a real key in it for sure!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Neil Baldwin wrote:
>
> Oh, forgot to mention, it came with a locking gas cap conveniently keyed to
> the ignition key. I thought Mike Romain would appreciate that.
>
> Neil
funky green should be easy to spot. ;-)
I do like the idea of a cap with a real key in it for sure!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Neil Baldwin wrote:
>
> Oh, forgot to mention, it came with a locking gas cap conveniently keyed to
> the ignition key. I thought Mike Romain would appreciate that.
>
> Neil
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Re: Replaced my TJ with same... back on the NG
Welcome back Neil. Maybe we will catch you on a trail some day. That
funky green should be easy to spot. ;-)
I do like the idea of a cap with a real key in it for sure!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Neil Baldwin wrote:
>
> Oh, forgot to mention, it came with a locking gas cap conveniently keyed to
> the ignition key. I thought Mike Romain would appreciate that.
>
> Neil
funky green should be easy to spot. ;-)
I do like the idea of a cap with a real key in it for sure!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Neil Baldwin wrote:
>
> Oh, forgot to mention, it came with a locking gas cap conveniently keyed to
> the ignition key. I thought Mike Romain would appreciate that.
>
> Neil
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Re: Replaced my TJ with same... back on the NG
Welcome back Neil. Maybe we will catch you on a trail some day. That
funky green should be easy to spot. ;-)
I do like the idea of a cap with a real key in it for sure!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Neil Baldwin wrote:
>
> Oh, forgot to mention, it came with a locking gas cap conveniently keyed to
> the ignition key. I thought Mike Romain would appreciate that.
>
> Neil
funky green should be easy to spot. ;-)
I do like the idea of a cap with a real key in it for sure!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Neil Baldwin wrote:
>
> Oh, forgot to mention, it came with a locking gas cap conveniently keyed to
> the ignition key. I thought Mike Romain would appreciate that.
>
> Neil
#17
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Re: Replaced my TJ with same... back on the NG
Welcome back Neil. Maybe we will catch you on a trail some day. That
funky green should be easy to spot. ;-)
I do like the idea of a cap with a real key in it for sure!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Neil Baldwin wrote:
>
> Oh, forgot to mention, it came with a locking gas cap conveniently keyed to
> the ignition key. I thought Mike Romain would appreciate that.
>
> Neil
funky green should be easy to spot. ;-)
I do like the idea of a cap with a real key in it for sure!
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Neil Baldwin wrote:
>
> Oh, forgot to mention, it came with a locking gas cap conveniently keyed to
> the ignition key. I thought Mike Romain would appreciate that.
>
> Neil
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